Pony Car

**El Gibbon** · 18-07-2009, 04:29 AM

THE PONY CAR is BACK

Chevy can't make em fast enough, selling for over list.

Popular new Camaros hard to get - CNN.com

E. G.

**Muadib** · 18-07-2009, 04:40 AM

Unfortunately, they are shite, just like all GM products with the exception of the late-model Corvettes... Much as the re-engineered Dodge Challengers are shite, but are selling for $10,000 over sticker due to the demand...

Seems a bit short-sighted that the 'Big 3' are betting the farm on a 40 year old nostalgic money-shot...

**BugginOut** · 18-07-2009, 07:40 AM

^^Lord, save from another bitter limey.

**Muadib** · 18-07-2009, 07:44 AM

^ Not hardly, Merkin here and have turned wrenches on muscle / race cars since I was knee-high to a grasshopper... So I do have a bit of background on the topic...

**tuktukdriver** · 18-07-2009, 11:24 AM

I like how it has the same "bones" as the original. I never understood why they went away from it so much. Same with the Mustang. Me, along with all my friends who grew up driving them, could never understand it. They finally go back and they start selling well. It's no surprise to me.

**Norton** · 18-07-2009, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by Muadib

Not hardly, Merkin here and have turned wrenches on muscle / race cars since I was knee-high to a grasshopper

Given you were watching Uncle Walter on TV, this would be a long time ago.

Tend to agree with your assessment of the new muscle cars. Pony cars reached their peak in late sixties, early seventies then went downhill from there. The current crop represent the genre in name only.

**Bung** · 18-07-2009, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by El Gibbon

THE PONY CAR is BACK Chevy can't make em fast enough,

Correct me if I am wrong but doesn't the term "Pony Car" refer to Mustangs?

**El Gibbon** · 18-07-2009, 10:00 PM

Originally Posted by Bung

Originally Posted by El Gibbon

THE PONY CAR is BACK Chevy can't make em fast enough,

Correct me if I am wrong but doesn't the term "Pony Car" refer to Mustangs?

Actually the term PONY car came about with the advent of the 2+2 format, where the back seats are basically worthless for adults. I believe the first attempt was the Ford Thunderbird.

The term Muscle car was the next step I believe. A slightly stretched car that you could possibly seat adults in the back but they came will engines that had balls vs. the original PONY that were underpowered.

Not an expert but think that's the way it went.

The Mustang with its Mustang emblem in the gril was known as THE Pony for obvious reasons.

PONY cars included Camaro, Mustang, and the precursor of the Dodge Charger which I can't recall the name of. Barracuda???

E. G.

**Bung** · 18-07-2009, 12:01 PM

Should have looked here first...From Wiki

Pony car is an American class of automobile launched and inspired by the Ford Mustang in 1964.[1] The term describes an affordable, compact, highly styled car with a sporty or performance-oriented image. "It was small by Detroit standards, with sporty styling... [a]nd the rear wheels were driven by an engine — ideally a big V8 — mounted up front..."[2] Pony cars were "relatively small, relatively light and often absurdly powerful."[3]

**blackgang** · 18-07-2009, 12:08 PM

^Yes it does, But seem to have spread over to cover all 2X2 sports models.

**gjbkk** · 18-07-2009, 02:28 PM

The fastest Camaro has a 6.2-liter V-8 engine, generating 422 horsepower but this has also a V8 engine producing 502 BHP and looks more fun

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**blackgang** · 18-07-2009, 02:46 PM

One bad thing I do know will happen if you crank the throttle open on that scoot, it will immediately be on it's left side due to torque of an inline engine set that way in the frame, did you ever ride an Aerial Sq.4 or an Indian 4 inline?
Very useless motorcycle for riding but a nice set still show piece, kinda like being married to paris Hilton.

**matsalleh** · 18-07-2009, 08:41 PM

^
Additionally you will burn your legs badly shifting gears - the distance is simply not there!

**Thetyim** · 18-07-2009, 10:07 PM

Originally Posted by blackgang

One bad thing I do know will happen if you crank the throttle open on that scoot, it will immediately be on it's left side

Not when it's hooked up to the semi trailer

**Norton** · 19-07-2009, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by El Gibbon

PONY cars included Camaro, Mustang, and the precursor of the Dodge Charger which I can't recall the name of. Barracuda???

Barracuda it was. I had one (1966). Also had Camaro (1968) and Mustang (1965).

**Muadib** · 24-07-2009, 10:17 PM

Originally Posted by Norton

Barracuda it was. I had one (1966). Also had Camaro (1968) and Mustang (1965).

All of these Pony cars have been bringing top dollar at the high-end auctions... Especially if they are numbers-matching and in original condition...

Seems we have similar backgrounds as a kid... I was always a motorhead, much to the displeasure of my parents... It was their fault though as they got me started in mini-bikes and go-karts at the tender age or 7...

**stewart888** · 24-07-2009, 07:49 PM

Also "ponys" as in how many ponys does this/that car have? .....as in horse power...

**Norton** · 24-07-2009, 07:52 PM

Interesting. Hadn't heard that before but makes sense.

**stewart888** · 24-07-2009, 09:13 PM

Yep Norton we used to use it and will use it now...You Cuda, the 66 ( NICE!) what did it have under the hood, 383/340? or was that a few years later engine? how how many ponys did it produce.

Some cool colors too back then. I rememebr looking though a Mopar dealership window and in the show room the cars were purple, line green, yellow, orange...I think it was 1970...

**Norton** · 24-07-2009, 09:29 PM

Originally Posted by stewart888

what did it have under the hood, 383/340? or was that a few years later engine?

Few years later. The 66 had 273cid, 250hp. At the time the biggest thing Plymouth had on offer. Liked the car a lot but wasn't a big powerhouse.

**blackgang** · 24-07-2009, 09:42 PM

Didn't MoPar have the 426 H at that time?
My cousin in Portland has one in a 69 roadrunner.
I never ran Mopar back then, we had a 27T bucket and ran 49A block with Ardun Bros Heads.
And an A modified Sports, Glaspar bodied tube frame with a 322 Buick bored and stroked to 409, but it kept blowing up over 9K.

http://www.ardun.com/ardun_histrory.htm

**Muadib** · 24-07-2009, 10:14 PM

^ Yep, 426 Hemi head V8...

If you have a late 60's early 70's Barracuda today with a factory 426 Hemi in it, you could retire on the proceeds from the auction...

**Norton** · 24-07-2009, 10:26 PM

Originally Posted by blackgang

Didn't MoPar have the 426 H at that time?

They did but not available in Barracuda. Think it was only in that big beast Belvedere. Didn't get into the Cuda until 68 or 69. Got the name Hemi under glass. Now there was some major muscle.

**Norton** · 24-07-2009, 10:35 PM

Originally Posted by Muadib

All of these Pony cars have been bringing top dollar at the high-end auctions...

Yep. Had I only known. Who would have thought the 68, 396SS I paid $2850. for brand new would not be selling for well over $60k.

**The Gentleman Scamp** · 24-07-2009, 10:48 PM

The Transformers movies I would guess contribute to the popularity.

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