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    If it's a SCOOTER, to hell with the damm thing, it's got no control for shit, hate the fricken things, no matter the CCs.

    Of course it might be that I grew up on real motorcycles instead of MOPEDS with bigger motors. 555

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    Don't know much about the Bikes but really liked jacks Hobby of making the Video and reviewing the bikes.

    Got to be a great little hobby so I greened him.

    Onya Jack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratchaburi
    So how the gear box 125i. Wave now
    Are you Yoda?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ratchaburi
    So how the gear box 125i. Wave now
    Are you Yoda?
    I'd like to see a picture of you on your little 110cc




























    Last edited by Ratchaburi; 23-07-2013 at 07:44 PM. Reason: just for you mate

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    Quote Originally Posted by terry57 View Post
    Don't know much about the Bikes but really liked jacks Hobby of making the Video and reviewing the bikes.

    Got to be a great little hobby so I greened him.

    Onya Jack.
    Glad you liked the video and review, Terry. I used to review guns for a small adult magazine in the U.S. Got paid very little for the articles so that was more or less a hobby too. But I also got to pick whatever entertainer I wanted to pose with the weapons. Ever since then there's been this void in my life, (due to the missing strippers in my life and weapons) and since I can't have guns in Thailand and don't want to be a hopeless drunk with no goals in life, I've turned to this. But motorcycles are great fun no matter how big or small.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackcorbett View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by terry57 View Post
    Don't know much about the Bikes but really liked jacks Hobby of making the Video and reviewing the bikes.

    Got to be a great little hobby so I greened him.

    Onya Jack.
    Glad you liked the video and review, Terry. I used to review guns for a small adult magazine in the U.S. Got paid very little for the articles so that was more or less a hobby too. But I also got to pick whatever entertainer I wanted to pose with the weapons. Ever since then there's been this void in my life, (due to the missing strippers in my life and weapons) and since I can't have guns in Thailand and don't want to be a hopeless drunk with no goals in life, I've turned to this. But motorcycles are great fun no matter how big or small.
    There's a huge supply of strippers and guns in Thailand....you just need to develop a relationship with the BIB......

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    I did enjoy your test because Iv'e always wondered how they go, next please.
    Then how about the one you concider the best.

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    Nice vid, Jack!

    Done any for the Wave at all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mozzbie47 View Post
    I did enjoy your test because Iv'e always wondered how they go, next please.
    Then how about the one you concider the best.

    After taking these pictures today at the Yamaha dealer out on Sukamvit I hate to say it, but I will have to rule out all motorbikes with floorboards. Because of these new pictures I have added them to one of my articles on the subject. Scooter bikes with floorboards compared to those without floorboards These more recent pictures that show a torn down Honda Click side by side with a torn down Yamaha Nouvo MX really show us just how badly designed these "scooters" really are for good handling. They are designed to sell---and handling that is even close to a PCX or Yamaha Nouvo, Suziki Hayate, Honda Wave, etc is impossible.

    I must rule out the manual transmission bikes such as the Wave or Yamaha's Spark. They don't have the carrying capacity for one thing, they are way undertired with their standard tires. Compared to a good automatic they are cumbersome in city traffic, and they have chains that will stretch and wear out long before the drive belt on an automatic needs to be changed.

    I'd have to go with either a Yamaha Nouvo SX or the Honda PCX 150. What I don't like about the Nouvo SX is Yamaha reduced the size of its fuel tank from 4.8 liters to 4.3. And the 135 Elegance has more get up and go. Nevertheless the 125 SX is a smooth ride that's about ideal for any city conditions that can be thrown at us in places such as Pattaya. This is a very capable bike for real world conditions I have to contend with every day. Let's face the facts. When you get get up to 30 miles an hour on most streets in Pattaya, you are going very fast for the conditions. Go 40 miles an hour and you are way up into the danger zone. A Yamaha SX 125 will hit these speeds in short order. My Elegance 135 will do it in even shorter order. And they will really handle, especially if you upgrade your tires to something about like what I put on my Elegance.

    As I've said in some of my other reviews, the Honda PCX is the best for highway conditions. For one thing the driver sits farther from the front tire on the PCX than he does on a Nouvo so the steering is more relaxed and you get a feeling of confidence driving it. It's also 40 pounds heavier and its tires are fatter. I would compare the PCX handling and ride to a G.S. snow ski whereas I'd compare the Yamaha Nouvo's to a slalom ski. With a G.S. ski it's easier to hit some really high speeds. So the flags are spaced at wider intervals for G.S. ski racing events. For the slalom courses, the flags are put much closer together so you need a quicker turning ski, but it's not going to feel as stable at really high speeds. I preferred slalom skis because they were good in the bumps. They'd just scream and turn turn turn. And I could still go very fast on them. But it felt like you were always skiing on the edge of your pants. Well...that's how my Nouvo Elegance is.

    Those are my two top picks. It just depends on what kind of look you prefer and what style of driving. You want something that's the utmost in smoothness that will make you feel pretty confident on the highway, go with the PCX. It also has a much larger fuel tank. What this means is if I am driving say an hour and fifteen minutes to a place like Rayong I can do a lot of cruising around and still get home on one tank with room to spare. Then again, that new Yamaha Nouvo SX is as sharp as a razor. It's really a svelte machine. And it's going to get through the smallest gaps in traffic easier than a PCX. Also easier to park.

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    Whats that like a first generation Click

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fondles View Post
    Whats that like a first generation Click
    I am pretty sure it is. The Yamaha Nouvo MX in the pictures is like my first bike--air cooled, 115 cc's whereas the Elegance such as I have now represented a substantial improvement. So the Click in the pictures has the 110 c.c. engine. I couldn't believe my good luck in being able to get these pictures. I had strapped my camera around my neck and put my laptop computer in a backpack and headed out to Pattaya 2 U at Tuk come because my battery had gone bad in the laptop. Had bad luck with the laptop because the battery is not the problem and while Pattaya 2 U was diagnosing the problem I was told to come back in 2 hours. So I headed to the dealership to have my oil changed, fluids checked, and get the brakes adjusted. I had been thinking of having the dealership take all the paneling off my Yamaha so I could get better pictures of all the braces underneath and was prepared to offer a tip. And there they were, a Honda Click and Yamaha Nouvo sitting there in front of the service bay with their covers removed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackcorbett View Post
    Ever since then there's been this void in my life, (due to the missing strippers in my life and weapons) and since I can't have guns in Thailand and don't want to be a hopeless drunk with no goals in life, I've turned to this. But motorcycles are great fun no matter how big or small.
    There's one part of the void you have forgot to mention?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackcorbett
    I'm not getting paid. I just have a lot of fun shooting videos, doing reviews and in a case like this one, getting to the bottom of things.
    can you review some of the rides along walking street next? honda clicks are boring

    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus Jones
    Friend has just bought the click and he's chuffed with the amount of shopping he can get on it!
    i get four bags of swine feed on the click and i ride it 15 km no problem, thats is 4x 30Kg plus my 82KG

    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
    The Midget was going to get a PCX to replace my 110i Wave that I never used. But I screwed that plan up by getting the CB500, so she has to make do with the 125i Wave.
    Just love the way you put it ( The Midget)

    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
    After getting the CB, I think the Wave feels bloody unstable and really don't want to ride it any more.
    Why would you.
    Sorry about me horrible speling

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    Quote Originally Posted by poorfalang View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jackcorbett
    I'm not getting paid. I just have a lot of fun shooting videos, doing reviews and in a case like this one, getting to the bottom of things.
    can you review some of the rides along walking street next? honda clicks are boring
    He's not doing it necessarily for the subject? He's doing it for the process.

    Didn't someone more famous than me say something about life being a journey, not a destination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poorfalang View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jackcorbett
    I'm not getting paid. I just have a lot of fun shooting videos, doing reviews and in a case like this one, getting to the bottom of things.
    can you review some of the rides along walking street next? honda clicks are boring

    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus Jones
    Friend has just bought the click and he's chuffed with the amount of shopping he can get on it!
    i get four bags of swine feed on the click and i ride it 15 km no problem, thats is 4x 30Kg plus my 82KG

    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
    The Midget was going to get a PCX to replace my 110i Wave that I never used. But I screwed that plan up by getting the CB500, so she has to make do with the 125i Wave.
    Just love the way you put it ( The Midget)

    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
    After getting the CB, I think the Wave feels bloody unstable and really don't want to ride it any more.
    Why would you.

    On my web site, Uncle Bufford's got my butt covered reviewing "rides" on Walking Street? Uncle Buford Pattaya Go-Go Bar Reviews


    As for the Honda Wave, although it's obviously no match for the Honda CB 500. I would think a set of bigger tires would help the Wave a lot. Here's a couple of web sites I just found with some interesting specs on the 125 c.c. Wave. 2013 Honda Wave 125 specifications and pictures and 2010 Honda Wave 125X Ultimo Technical Specifications

    The tires of the Wave on the Malaysian web site appear to be a size larger than what I've seen at the dealerships here in Pattaya. However...notice that the horsepower figures for the Wave on both these web sites is pretty low at about 9 h.p.

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