Got a Ranger, watch your water depth.

**Ratchaburi** · 04-07-2013, 07:28 AM

special point of advertising a wading depth of 300mm, Sorry Taxexile not trying to be a teacher.

it is 800mm

**Fondles** · 04-07-2013, 08:04 AM

Originally Posted by taxexile

tfor good public relations if nothing else.

it would cost them an engine, and a few hours of labour, yet the adverse publicity could cost them dozens of sales.

This has already cost them 3 sales that I know of, 2 people cancelled their order and the 3rd who was highly considering a Focus has decided to go to his 2nd choice of a Mazda 3.

**FailSafe** · 04-07-2013, 08:22 AM

I haven't been through any floods in my truck, but I don't think I'll be challenging any deep water anytime soon.

**Jesus Jones** · 04-07-2013, 08:46 AM

YouTube

Not trying to rub it in. But here is my pajero running on standard everything. Wading wasn't 800mm but it was dry as a bone inside going through numurous times.

**taxexile** · 04-07-2013, 08:49 AM

could the water ingress have reduced the friction on the timing belts, causing slippage and resulting in a damaged engine?

**Jesus Jones** · 04-07-2013, 09:01 AM

Originally Posted by taxexile

could the water ingress have reduced the friction on the timing belts, causing slippage and resulting in a damaged engine?

There's no way that should make a difference to the Ranger. It supposed to be designed for this purpose. He's received a duff motor or the claims Ford have made are wrong!

**Fondles** · 04-07-2013, 09:08 AM

Originally Posted by taxexile

could the water ingress have reduced the friction on the timing belts, causing slippage and resulting in a damaged engine?

Nah, water got into the cylinder and hydrolocked it (albeit very mildly) hence the bent conrod.

**Marmite the Dog** · 04-07-2013, 09:42 AM

Whilst no one is saying you don't have a screwed engine, there's so much in this thread that doesn't add up.

A foot of water did not screw your engine up.

**Fondles** · 04-07-2013, 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Whilst no one is saying you don't have a screwed engine, there's so much in this thread that doesn't add up.

A foot of water did not screw your engine up.

Must have been the tooth fairy then. I know how deep the water was because I had to get out of the car when it died, also the fact I was following a Toyota sedan should give a hint it was not all that deep.

Please by all means though interpret the water depth from your own imagination............. no point in letting facts get in the road.

**Necron99** · 04-07-2013, 12:40 PM

^ maybe he is suggesting that the water is not the issue.
What else could lead to a bent conrod?

**Fondles** · 04-07-2013, 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by Necron99

^ maybe he is suggesting that the water is not the issue.
What else could lead to a bent conrod?

A faulty injector filling the cylinder out of cycle but this would show up on the freeze frame of the ECU when it chucked the engine fault code.

**Necron99** · 04-07-2013, 01:42 PM

Didn't you put one of those aftermarket ECU's in?
Or was that someone else?

**Spin** · 04-07-2013, 02:03 PM

I think you fucked up by sending it to ford with no number plate on the front.

That was a bit like handing them a signed written admission that you were going too quickly and the bow wave tore it off.

**Gilbert** · 04-07-2013, 02:07 PM

Originally Posted by Spin

I think you fucked up by sending it to ford with no number plate on the front.

That was a bit like handing them a signed written admission that you were going too quickly and the bow wave tore it off.

Yes - I thought that as well. Did he still have the plate he could have glued back on or was that floating down the river somewhere.

**Fondles** · 04-07-2013, 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by Spin

I think you fucked up by sending it to ford with no number plate on the front.

That was a bit like handing them a signed written admission that you were going too quickly and the bow wave tore it off.

Originally Posted by Gilbert

Originally Posted by Spin

I think you fucked up by sending it to ford with no number plate on the front.

That was a bit like handing them a signed written admission that you were going too quickly and the bow wave tore it off.

Yes - I thought that as well. Did he still have the plate he could have glued back on or was that floating down the river somewhere.

so the water got into the engine via the missing front numberplate ?

This is the point you are not getting, if the water did not enter the engine via the air-cleaner how did it get in there........... A question none of you can answer and one Ford refuses to answer, this is Ford Thailand btw and not the deadshit dealership.

FWIW A very easy rebutall for the missing plate is the flimsy plastic clip together holders that are given for free, I can give the rear one a tap with my hand and it becomes dislodged so whats not to say it was not already missing (infact could have been as I rarely look at the front of my vehicles).

**Necron99** · 04-07-2013, 02:44 PM

I can't be bothered looking under the hood, where is the intercooler mounted on the ranger?

An engine is a sealed unit, only really two access points innit?
Exhaust and intake/intercooler assembly.
And if water had gotten in why would it effect only one cylinder?

**Exige** · 04-07-2013, 02:47 PM

Faulty headgasket

**Fondles** · 04-07-2013, 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by Necron99

I can't be bothered looking under the hood, where is the intercooler mounted on the ranger?

An engine is a sealed unit, only really two access points innit?
Exhaust and intake/intercooler assembly.
And if water had gotten in why would it effect only one cylinder?

Intercooler is at the front of the Radiator.

tomorrow Iam going to collect all of the intake system and pressure test the lot to check for small holes as apparently on the earlier T6 Rangers there was a possibility of an inter-cooler pipe being compromised by it rubbing on something close by.

Originally Posted by Exige

Faulty headgasket

Will also be looking for the head gasket as well, I hope they have not conveniently thrown it away.

**terry57** · 04-07-2013, 03:39 PM

My mate has just bought the latest Range Rover Discovery 4 twin turbo diesel.

You guys should buy one of those only 100 K.

**Bung** · 04-07-2013, 04:28 PM

Been wondering how this water got in and hydro locked your motor Fondles.

Did you confirm there was actual water in the bore? Or is this is what Ford said?

Because if water can get like that it would have been running like a bag of shit before you hit the water with all the gasses escaping.

I think you want to look at your intercooler. It's mounted in front of the radiator and would have had water pushing it up against it.

With the amount of water you were in there would have been none up around the top part of the engine. You created a bow wave when driving through water (with your intercooler/radiator and it has a skid plate under it as well. There would have been stuff all water in your engine bay.

I think you may have had a loose intercooler clamp and the water pushed the hose off. Did you have a look at that? Or a cracked intercooler. They are under vacuum. Think about it, it would have had to suck enough water into the bore (more than the compression area) for it to hydro locked. Quite a few millilitres other wise it would have been able to expel it without causing damage. Reading some of the poor quality control these pickups are showing a loose clamp wouldn't surprise me.

Somehow the number plate flew of and damaged the intercooler?

It wasn't a head gasket. There wouldn't have been water anywhere near the head.

Maybe the electronics got wet and screwed up the injection somehow leaving fuel pouring in?

Unfortunately with Ford holding their cards close to their chest, getting a cause may be hard. It sucks they are not honouring the warranty, I feel for you mate.

I certainly won't be buying another Ford after reading this thread and owning a 2011 Fiesta. Thats going in for a new steering column. A known fault on units produced before August 2011. Thank christ they are covering it under warranty. There is a TSB (technical service bulletin) about it. If you google that for your car you may be surprised and a good tool when researching cars. Even just googling (your car) problems turns up some interesting tales on forums.

With the Subaru I want to buy there is stuff all. The Fiesta and Ranger - plenty.

**Fondles** · 04-07-2013, 04:44 PM

Bung Ive not seen the vehicle or any parts of it since I dropped it there 3 weeks ago.

tomorrow I'll be collecting all of the intake system as well as anything else that I feels could use some further investigation.

Whilst Iam there I will also request for the 5th time this so called inspection report that was sent to Ford, Maybe the manager will be a bit more forth coming with an angry person in his face.

**Bung** · 04-07-2013, 04:57 PM

It would be great to see that report but if they don't want to show you it can only mean they found something that incriminates Ford. Poor quality control, failed part or design fault.

If water just got into the engine through none of the above they would have told you.

But no water could have got into that engine in a properly functioning vehicle being used well within it's design parameters.

So something is up. And they need to replace it under warranty. Possibly even a recall is er, called for.

I don't suppose you have pictures of it in the water? That would help, the burden of proof is on you. You may be able to find "tide marks" somewhere underneath if the water was muddy, get pictures.

**Necron99** · 04-07-2013, 05:42 PM

They must have given you a reason the warranty was voided?
Unauthorized mods?
Misuse?

**Fondles** · 04-07-2013, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by Necron99

They must have given you a reason the warranty was voided?
Unauthorized mods?
Misuse?

Zero reason given, all that was said is that after reading the report they have decided this is not a warranty claim issue.

**Fondles** · 05-07-2013, 12:24 PM

Pretty cut and dried affair in the explanation dept.

water in the engine = warranty void regardless of how it got in there.

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