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    Quote Originally Posted by VocalNeal View Post
    If Prius is an "Eco car" why is the new one 1800cc when the old one was 1600. Surely a new one with better tech would be less. Say 1400cc?

    Eco my ass, its a car for George Clooney wannabees.

    Because people are fooled by the eco bullshit time and time again1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Necron99
    On a side note, they go to an awful amount of trouble with Autos to make sure you are in park. But on any manual it's a free for all. Does anyone know why they do this?
    My understanding is that it's related to the gearboxes. Moving an auto in neutral can damage the gearbox/engine. I think a lot of manufacturers recommend not towing an auto unless the drive wheels are hoisted.

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    ^more reaons to hate computers making you do things you don't want to do.

    saying that, on my old saab you could not remove the key unless the manual gear was locked in gear. So when some little sod apparently spent a hour trying to steal my car. all he managed to do was fuck the key barrel and break the gear linakge. I watched the dealer change the barrel. they had to take the drivers seat out and then spend 15 minutes breaking off the bottom of the barrel with a large hammer and chisil. when the keys out, the bottom of the barrel is locked into a bracket welded to the car body.

    ant out of curiosity what pissed the kwis's off most the terroism or the french government strong arming you into letting the terroists free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus Jones View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by VocalNeal View Post
    If Prius is an "Eco car" why is the new one 1800cc when the old one was 1600. Surely a new one with better tech would be less. Say 1400cc?

    Eco my ass, its a car for George Clooney wannabees.

    Because people are fooled by the eco bullshit time and time again1
    the problem is Jesus your swiming in so much fox bullshit and been drinking teabuggerer coolaid for so long, I think you will find that you lost ability to tell the difference between fanticy and reality decades ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hazz
    ant out of curiosity what pissed the kwis's off most the terroism or the french government strong arming you into letting the terroists free.
    Bit of both really. I was quite young at the time however I remember pretty clearly that the actual incident stirred up quite a bit of animosity (naturally). However later, particularly around the 'Club Med' farce of their 'imprisonment', I think that most of the animosity was actually directed at the NZ Govt. for allowing themselves to be so bullied.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hazz
    the problem is Jesus your swiming in so much fox bullshit and been drinking teabuggerer coolaid for so long, I think you will find that you lost ability to tell the difference between fanticy and reality decades ago.
    JJ to proclaim himself a TD Libertarian™ in 3...2...

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    isnt libertarian simply a new name for (real/wanabe)rich with anarchist tendencies and guns?

    But getting back to cars. what is it about thais and their obsession with luck, if she buys the car, she's calculated a list of just 4 dates over the next 3 months which are the lucky days! the rest are bad days

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    been looking at toyta's price list, by the fortuner bit its says

    Fortuner, the world is mine

    Its nice to see they understand their customers so well. I wonder if they give the cunts a free gun with everyone sold

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    Quote Originally Posted by hazz View Post
    been looking at toyta's price list, by the fortuner bit its says

    Fortuner, the world is mine

    Its nice to see they understand their customers so well. I wonder if they give the cunts a free gun with everyone sold



    How about a link or maybe do a Socal (copy & paste)

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    Care to expand on your witty contribution

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    I understand that a Fortuner has gone on sale in Phuket for 500,000 Baht

    https://teakdoor.com/2287347-post46.html

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    Pick up not Fortuner

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    Hybrid will lessen your fuel bills considerably.
    Mine was 14,000 baht per month, now it's hovering around 8,000baht.

    Bangkok driving you do not need performance. You need comfort. Nice seats, quiet cabin, useful compartments, etc, etc......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exige
    Mine was 14,000 baht per month, now it's hovering around 8,000baht.
    Mine's about 1000 baht a month. See, Ford are miles betterer.

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    ^ Ford makes scoobies now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Necron99
    Ford makes scoobies now?
    Probably not, but that's how much my Ranger uses every month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Necron99
    Ford makes scoobies now?
    Probably not, but that's how much my Ranger uses every month.
    You have to actually drive it out the carport to be useful....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Exige
    Mine was 14,000 baht per month, now it's hovering around 8,000baht.
    Mine's about 1000 baht a month. See, Ford are miles betterer.
    If I still had the ole' Camry, would easily burn up a thousand baht worth of fuel just sitting at Asoke/Sukhumvit traffic lights.

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    My old 4.5ltr Benz used to burn that on just on turn-over at start-up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson
    My understanding is that it's related to the gearboxes. Moving an auto in neutral can damage the gearbox/engine. I think a lot of manufacturers recommend not towing an auto unless the drive wheels are hoisted.
    I think your understanding is slightly wrong. In Park, the transmission is locked and moving the car via its driven wheels can cause damage. In Neutral the driven wheels are free to rotate. However, with many modern automatic cars there is a time limit, when in the Neutral position, before Park is automatically selected. This means that the driven wheels should be raised during towing rather than selecting neutral.
    Locking the transmission via park is quite often used as a replacement for the handbrake and is similar to leaving a manual car in gear but for the opposite reasons. In Automatic the handbrake is used to relieve the load of the Park lug and to stop all wheels from turning. In a manual, putting the car in gear relieves the load on the handbrake mechanism...both being a good safety measure when parking on hills.

    I remember chasing down a sports car in Atlanta once after the driver jumped out to refuel his car at a gas station. He was evidently used to an auto and left the car in neutral with handbrake off. The slope was enough for it to pick up a reasonable speed in the 50metres or so it took to jump in and grab the brake.


    apologies for the trivia....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy
    I think your understanding is slightly wrong
    Could be, I don't really know that much about it too be honest. Just one of those things I've always heard but never really known the why's/how's/etc.

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    ^A time limit? that's interesting, I still don't see the need for such elaborate measures. Is is perhaps more to do with making sure you are in park when you restart the engine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson
    My understanding is that it's related to the gearboxes. Moving an auto in neutral can damage the gearbox/engine. I think a lot of manufacturers recommend not towing an auto unless the drive wheels are hoisted.
    Correct.
    I have first hand knowledge of a gearbox that was damaged in this manor.
    The court case lasted years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy
    However, with many modern automatic cars there is a time limit, when in the Neutral position, before Park is automatically selected.
    Never heard of that before.
    Got any links.
    That would create havoc in a lot of Thai car parks if you ca'nt push the car out of the way.


    Quote Originally Posted by Troy
    In Automatic the handbrake is used to relieve the load of the Park lug and to stop all wheels from turning.
    I think you meant the rear wheels (with a few exceptions)
    Last edited by Thetyim; 04-12-2012 at 04:30 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hazz View Post
    Care to expand on your witty contribution

    The price list you mentioned

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