Thainess...

[Chairman Mao]

You hear of this a lot... but what actually is it?

[taxexile]

50% never being wrong and 50% always being right.

[jandajoy]

http://www.fringer.org/wp-content/wr...ainess-eng.pdf

An interesting article .

[Norton]

Thainess

A myth perpetuated by a small conservative group living in central Thailand seeking to impose their cultural norms on other cultures who just happen to reside within the national borders of Thailand.

[Spin]

To lie when it is easier than telling the truth.

To do half a job when the it would only take a little more time to finish something to a satisfactory standard.

To tell someone something what you think they would like to hear, rather than anything else.

To run away from lifes challenges, rather than stand upright fight through them.

To blame others for one's own failings when obviously caught red handed / seen to be guilty of any one the above.

All theses things are in my opinion "Thainess", none of them are qualities I would ever aspire to or want my children exposed to.

In short "Thainess" seems to be a fitting term for a collective of sub standard individuals who somehow, are under the impression that they are superior to their counterparts from neighbouring countries and even those further afield.

[sabang]

if i told ya, i'd have to kill ya.

[Chairman Mao]

Seems like there are good reasons for these though:

To lie when it is easier than telling the truth.

Saves people's face. Keeps social harmony. Easy isn't better than harder?

To do half a job when the it would only take a little more time to finish something to a satisfactory standard.

No one will complain. Keeps harmony.

To tell someone something what you think they would like to hear, rather than anything else.

That's just nice.

To run away from lifes challenges, rather than stand upright fight through them.

An easy life, doesn't everyone want one of those?

To blame others for one's own failings when obviously caught red handed / seen to be guilty of any one the above.

Saves face. Keeps harmony. Isn't that what's really important?

Thainess?

are under the impression that they are superior to their counterparts from neighbouring countries and even those further afield.

Well if those from further afield don't strive to keep an easy, harmonic, non-problematic life, are they not superior?

Just asking like. I don't know the answer, or even if there is one.

[Spin]

Seems like there are good reasons for these though:

There might be but you certainly didn't give any.

[Chairman Mao]

Well you don't show any signs of cultural ignorance.

[Rural Surin]

Thainess

A myth perpetuated by a small conservative group living in central Thailand seeking to impose their cultural norms on other cultures who just happen to reside within the national borders of Thailand.

Very good, Norts.

[Spin]

^^ I pay close attention to the culture in Thailand and am versed pretty well in it's ways and nuances.

You are just confusing ignorance with the fact that I believe everything about the culture here is a total fucking sham perpetuated by the few to the detriment of many.

[Chairman Mao]

I believe everything about the culture here is a total fucking sham perpetuated by the few to the detriment of many.

So only a few do this:

https://teakdoor.com/living-in-thaila...ml#post1326199 (Thainess...)

[Spin]

So only a few do this:

Comprehension failing you today?

[Agent_Smith]

Thainess... You hear of this a lot... but what actually is it?

behaving like a Thai

[Thaihome]

In short "Thainess" seems to be a fitting term for a collective of sub standard individuals who somehow, are under the impression that they are superior to their counterparts from neighbouring countries and even those further afield.

The irony of that statement seems to be lost on the poster.

TH

[Spin]

The irony of that statement seems to be lost on the poster.

There's no irony, I've never met a Thai who could hold a candle to my parents for example when it came to being decent human beings.

[graym]

I don't have enough posts for a link but a piece by Edward Moulton titled A Tale of Two Psyches (07.11.2008) on the Ginger Asia site is worth a read. It is still on the site.

Here's a bit of it:

From Edward Moulton's 'A Tale of Two Psyches'
How Westerners see Thai values in the real world: We see Thais as very immature compared to us with an almost baby-like nature in their desire for fun, lack of responsibility, dependence on the family unit to take care of problems and the sense of inevitability, which prevents them from trying too hard at anything. They get confused by complex and multi-tasked situations and resist ownership of the problem or any form of confrontation. Equally importantly, their simple sense of existence with a pure uncluttered take on the world results in them seeing everything in a linear and two dimensional way with little distraction, sense of urgency or consideration for outside factors.

How Thais see Western values in the real world: By comparison, we appear overly complicated and worried about everything. We see problems where there are none, we deal with things so easily and quickly but never seem happy with the result. We can rarely get on with our own lives as we worry about the time, exchange rates, how to fix it all and what others think of us. We are altogether too stressed and we make problems everywhere we go.

[Smug Farang Bore]

Has long as you have a hole in your arse you will NEVER understand why they do what they do.

Thainess=Madness...

[Rural Surin]

Has long as you have a hole in your arse you will NEVER understand why they do what they do.

Thainess=Madness...

Then, one has to define 'madness'.

[tsicar]

I don't have enough posts for a link but a piece by Edward Moulton titled A Tale of Two Psyches (07.11.2008) on the Ginger Asia site is worth a read. It is still on the site.

Here's a bit of it:

From Edward Moulton's 'A Tale of Two Psyches'
How Westerners see Thai values in the real world: We see Thais as very immature compared to us with an almost baby-like nature in their desire for fun, lack of responsibility, dependence on the family unit to take care of problems and the sense of inevitability, which prevents them from trying too hard at anything. They get confused by complex and multi-tasked situations and resist ownership of the problem or any form of confrontation. Equally importantly, their simple sense of existence with a pure uncluttered take on the world results in them seeing everything in a linear and two dimensional way with little distraction, sense of urgency or consideration for outside factors.

How Thais see Western values in the real world: By comparison, we appear overly complicated and worried about everything. We see problems where there are none, we deal with things so easily and quickly but never seem happy with the result. We can rarely get on with our own lives as we worry about the time, exchange rates, how to fix it all and what others think of us. We are altogether too stressed and we make problems everywhere we go.

just about sums it all up.

for me:
i'd rather teach my kids farang values, so that they will be prepared for the day when reality starts encroaching on the thai fantasy world, which i believe is not far off.
"thainess" has gotten them this far, and thainess will be their downfall.
ignorance may be bliss, but it is not a sustainable state of mind.

[billy the kid]

Has long as you have a hole in your arse you will NEVER understand why they do what they do.

Thainess=Madness...

Immm, they look human , got two arms , two legs , a head, hands and feet but,,, that is as far as it goes . .

[beazalbob69]

for me: i'd rather teach my kids farang values, so that they will be prepared for the day when reality starts encroaching on the thai fantasy world, which i believe is not far off. "thainess" has gotten them this far, and thainess will be their downfall. ignorance may be bliss, but it is not a sustainable state of mind.

I dont know if I would teach my kids farang values over thai values.
Their "Thainess" has gotten them a lot further than my "Americaness" has gotten America. Thailand was founded in 1238 the US in 1781 they have 543 years more that "Thainess" has worked for them. It also depends on what you believe is more important living a carefree life or making a way in the ratrace that is the west.

I for one have been rethinking my way of life a lot more often in recent years.

[Boon Mee]

^
Agree. Thailand suits me after being in the "rat-race" too long. So what if contractors are less "professional" than their American or European counterparts? So long as you have patience, you'll do allright - it just takes a little longer.

I used to think about the differences between Thai and farang attitudes on a myriad of things but gave that up quite awhile back. The farang will never understand the Thai mind-set - just go with it...

[Mid]

Two Promotional Videos Highlighting “Thainess” Win Awards at ITB 2013 Film Competition
PRWeb – 5 mins ago

One TV commercial spot and one video clip produced by the Tourism Authority of Thailand (TAT) were among the top-three award winners at an international Tourism Film and Multimedia Competition held at the International Tourism Bourse (ITB 2013), the world’s largest travel trade show held in German capital, Berlin on 6-10 March 2013.

Bangkok, Thailand (PRWEB) March 23, 2013

The videos are “Mae La Na”, which won second prize for outstanding contribution in the Golden City Gate awards, and “Warm Welcome”, which won third prize. Both are delightfully entertaining pieces of film-making designed to portray the kingdom’s primary tourism value proposition, its “Thainess”, in a heart-warming, sensitive manner. “Mae La Na” is a 6.32 minute-video clip showing a young Caucasian male experiencing the slow pace of local life at a Mae La Na home stay in northern Thailand. He lives with a Thai village family in Mae Hong Son Province, on the border with Myanmar, enjoying the simplicity of the rural lifestyle amidst greenery and fresh air, learning how to cook Thai food, participating in local traditions and cultural festivals, visiting Mae La Na cave, and working in a rice paddy.

“Warm Welcome” is a rapid-fire, one-minute TV commercial spot that also shows a young Caucasian male on a whirlwind tour of the entire country with its huge diversity of cultural and natural backdrops, using various means of transport; such as, taxis, tuk-tuks and boats. A sequence of nearly 20 “Thainess” activities that visitors can enjoy in the kingdom, shot in 30 locations over nine days, is expertly edited into the clip. The finale shows him realising how “Amazing Thailand Always Amazes You”.

To see the two videos, please click here for Mae La Na and Warm Welcome and hit the “like” button if you enjoy watching them.

Mr. Suraphon Svetasreni, Governor, Tourism Authority of Thailand said, “It’s an honour for TAT to receive these two awards. Our production team faced a huge challenge in trying to present so many different facets of Thai culture, traditions, heritage, and society in a fun, entertaining way. I am very pleased to see that their work has been recognised.”

“These promotional videos and advertising clips are designed to highlight Thailand’s unique selling propositions, including both the ‘hardware’; such as, the extensive tourist attractions, and the ‘software’ such as “Thainess” and “Hospitality” – all of which have impressed millions of visitors over the years,” the TAT Governor added.

The Governor said the clips would be promoted via all forms of digital and social media, publicised at major world events and international travel marts and submitted as entries in global advertising and marketing communications competitions.

The Tourism Media Award, the Golden City Gate, is an annual tourism marketing competition organised since 2001 at the ITB Berlin. It offers a platform for stakeholders in tourism to present their corporate videos, online and print advertising and other promotions to an international audience at the ITB Cinema. The awards’ international jury is composed of representatives of various sectors: city marketing, hotel management, artists, associations, travel industry, and CEO’s.

The Golden City Gate takes place under the patronage of the German Federal Association of Film and Audio-visual producers.
Contact information:

International Public Relations Division

Tourism Authority of Thailand

Tel: +66 02-250-5500 ext. 4545-48

Fax: +66 02-253-7419

E-mail: prdiv3(at)tat(dot)or(dot)th

Web site: http://www.tatnews.org
International Public Relation Department
TAT News
+66 02-250-5500 4544-48
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The videos are “Mae La Na”, which won second prize for outstanding contribution in the Golden City Gate awards, and “Warm Welcome”, which won third prize.

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