Anyway a dumb thread as stated. Calling an isaanite lao would be like calling someone who wasn't a pikey.
Anyway a dumb thread as stated. Calling an isaanite lao would be like calling someone who wasn't a pikey.
Perhaps the OP wants to explain to a thai they know what it feels like to be referred to as a farang.
By being able to provide a word in the thai language which is not polite or is deemed derogatory it may be making the point he wishes to make.
I tried to explain to my wife's cousin why i didn't answer to the name farang and he didn't get it.
Told him he would surely rather be known by his name, or at least something that pertains to him than some ignorant, generic name.
He said he wouldn't care.
Originally Posted by NortonI find this quite interesting and you are both right, to a degree, and in isolation. That is telling a Thai or Laotian in the company of their own.Originally Posted by toddaniels
However, the old couple in the house opposite us have a history...they swam the Mekong to get out of Laos during the 'war' and settled because they 'walked the walk and talked the talk'...Plenty of similar people around our way so I guess it depends on where you are in Isaan and which dialect they speak.... The Vietnam dominated villages are pretty much off limits to me and the family,...way too dangerous if you don't know them....but then again most villages are if you don't know anyone. Headman often announces: "Stranger in the village!"
As Johnny foreigner, I get to speak Laos and French in Laos and Laos and Thai in Isaan...only broken so that no offence is ever taken as long as we can understand each other....
Had a great time in SE Paris last year when I came across a small Thai/Laos restaurant with Laos Husband, Thai Wife and French Daughter. Mrs Troy was thrilled to bits with all being able to converse in her local language...and the daughter translated the bits I missed into Franglais...
Apologies, strayed a bit from the OP...but was the thread going anywhere....?
The family calls me kee nok, the neighbours kee mao.
Jesus, you lot fall for this one every time. Next up, is "farang" a bad word and will Anal Anh from Eden make a good wife back in Des Moines?
In 17 years of learning Thai (lazioy I might add, I haven't actually picked up a book ar listened to a tape for about 13 years) I have never ever bothered to learn how to insult and I think it has stood me in good stead.
What is the point, you know how it's gonna end up.
When i first met the extended family they didn't seem to know what else to call me. It wasn't meant as an insult and they couldn't understand why it would bother me as they didn't see the harm in it.
"But you are farang". Well no, no I'm not mate. I told him i would rather he call me fat or big nose or something like that. He got the point and i could tell there was no malice in it.
Good few years ago now. They know my name but its usually "pee" they use.
Doesn't pee mean ghost or monster?
Lol... it means 'pussy face'... pretty rough thing to say - expect a fight to ensue after saying that one...Originally Posted by Kurgen
I speak Thai fluently, tying to rack my brain to think of a derogatory word for Thais without swearing like above..
I think you mean you want a racist term to call Thais, such as Thais call us Farang? right?
hmmm that's a tough one... they have invented derogatory words for practically every race (kaak Indian, Jeen/Jek Chinese, Farang us/ Lao, etc) but seemed to have conveniently forgotten to make up anything like that for themselves.. lol
(can't blame them really)...
No, it's not.. I could've worded it better... I meant slightly less appealing that say "khun Thai" which sounds super duper... compared to Farang... or Kaak... Jeen, etc..Originally Posted by thaimeme
Ever noticed how they use the pre-fix Khun - before Thai... but hardly ever hear them say "khun Farang" or "Khun Kaak"...
Not stating a race war... I don't mind 'n all.. just making an observation...
Khun Bob, you must look regal bro! haha... I was called Khun Richard.. (mainly in a patronizing way).. but that's probably down to me being a dick...
Ditto. Well, except it's Khun Ant not Bob obvs.Originally Posted by Bobcock
And most Thais seem to initially find my name a little amusing considering it's most commonly used in the feminine here.
Ummm NZdick1983, actually I believe they're saying คนไทย (kon tai) as in thai people, NOT คุณไทย. They also use คนฝรั่ง for foreign people too BTW..Nick, you seem a little more "effluent in thai" than fluent. I always say "fluent is just an imaginary place in your mind". Just a question, because I'm curious, what criteria do you base this imagined fluency in thai on?
Early on I was sure ฝรั่ง was derogatory, but now I know, given the thai penchant for "shoe-horning" or "cubby-holing" people into nice neat piles or boxes to delineate them from thais, is just what they do.. The "thai-f-word" for foreigners carries no implied negativity. It's the words which come before or after it which sway the meaning from just a classification of someone NOT thai, to something else.
Anecdotally, I can't ever recall a hearing a thai say หน้าหี "pussy face" when calling someone a pussy. In fact after a brief google I think it's another foreign bastardization of thai/engrish where it carries not all that much meaning to thais in thai. It's right up there with clueless foreigner trying to call a thai an asshole and using the word รูตูด (ruu-dtùut) which carries no meaning or comparative value in thai other than the orifice where shit comes out.
I have heard หน้าเหมือนเมีย (nâa-mʉ̌an-mia) "face like your wife's", used to call people a pussy or chicken shit and that's pretty hard core to say to someone!
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Cheers Tod.. Yes, I'm not fluent in karaoke spelling/phonetics khun/kun.. narm/nahm whatever.. yep, I know the difference..
Umm went to school in Thailand while my father was living there... lived there 10 years... I dream in Thai lol... fluent in spoken Thai.. never bothered to learn to write it though..
Welcome to have a Thai conversation in Skype with me brah... then post your findings on here... give me an effluence rating 1/10... bring it on :-)
I'm many things, a liar is not one of them..
Skype (deleted) (no sex chat please lol)
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*oh ok.. will do, thanks mate.
Yes, your Wife's father probably calls you pee....Originally Posted by Neep
The best way to insult a Thai is to attack their parents .... you mother's a whore, your father's a peasant, etc... you'll get a much stronger reaction the 'ee-lao' or whatever.
Yeah, that's hard core... sometimes better to be more subtle...
someone younger/less status.. refer to them as "ter" (sp)... or "nong"...
*don't go for the "meung" (sp) because that just makes you look...well... low-class for want of a better word..
Better to avoid heavy insults, especially for a Farang.. it really is not a good look..
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