Thread: Do Muslims condone paedophilia?

FACT.

sigh.

Originally Posted by Dug

If not, why is mohamed not condemned?

because he is the prophet of God
To condemn him would be to condemn The Almighty

Originally Posted by Dug

On another thread recently it was written that mohamed of the islamic faith took a wife when she was 9.
It was also pointed out that this is widely known and acknowledged by practitioners of islam.

Abraham of the Christian sect was told by God -- who had taken the form of a burning bush for some reason -- to sacrifice his one and only son to him. An act that Abraham was fully prepared to do and was actually in the process of when God yelled: 'Psyche!', revealing that it had all been some bizzare test.

This story is widely known and acknowledged by practioners of Christianity.

Therefore Christians are always only a burning bush away from being child murderers. FACT!

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by Dug

On another thread recently it was written that mohamed of the islamic faith took a wife when she was 9.
It was also pointed out that this is widely known and acknowledged by practitioners of islam.

Abraham of the Christian sect was told by God -- who had taken the form of a burning bush for some reason -- to sacrifice his one and only son to him. An act that Abraham was fully prepared to do and was actually in the process of when God yelled: 'Psyche!', revealing that it had all been some bizzare test.

This story is widely known and acknowledged by practioners of Christianity.

Therefore Christians are always only a burning bush away from being child murderers. FACT!

ridiculous.
Have you ever read reports of preteen girls being married to grown men?
Also, I think you'll find they were Jews.
If it was the time before Christ was born.

Originally Posted by Dug

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by Dug

On another thread recently it was written that mohamed of the islamic faith took a wife when she was 9.
It was also pointed out that this is widely known and acknowledged by practitioners of islam.

Abraham of the Christian sect was told by God -- who had taken the form of a burning bush for some reason -- to sacrifice his one and only son to him. An act that Abraham was fully prepared to do and was actually in the process of when God yelled: 'Psyche!', revealing that it had all been some bizzare test.

This story is widely known and acknowledged by practioners of Christianity.

Therefore Christians are always only a burning bush away from being child murderers. FACT!

ridiculous.
Have you ever read reports of preteen girls being married to grown men?
Also, I think you'll find they were Jews.
If it was the time before Christ was born.

Twelve years old Mary with Joseph ?

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by Dug

On another thread recently it was written that mohamed of the islamic faith took a wife when she was 9.
It was also pointed out that this is widely known and acknowledged by practitioners of islam.

Abraham of the Christian sect was told by God -- who had taken the form of a burning bush for some reason -- to sacrifice his one and only son to him. An act that Abraham was fully prepared to do and was actually in the process of when God yelled: 'Psyche!', revealing that it had all been some bizzare test.

This story is widely known and acknowledged by practioners of Christianity.

Therefore Christians are always only a burning bush away from being child murderers. FACT!

Strange reasoning you have

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by Dug

On another thread recently it was written that mohamed of the islamic faith took a wife when she was 9.
It was also pointed out that this is widely known and acknowledged by practitioners of islam.

Abraham of the Christian sect was told by God -- who had taken the form of a burning bush for some reason -- to sacrifice his one and only son to him. An act that Abraham was fully prepared to do and was actually in the process of when God yelled: 'Psyche!', revealing that it had all been some bizzare test.

This story is widely known and acknowledged by practioners of Christianity.

Therefore Christians are always only a burning bush away from being child murderers. FACT!

You should read the Bible and get your stories right. God only spoke to Abraham.
Genesis chapter 22. No burning bush. FACT

They love it.

Plenty of Muslims crusing the streets in motors looking to pick up young girls & fuck them, usually after plying them with drink/drugs. Police/Social Services have got a special department to deal with them, but you still see them everywhere.

Originally Posted by Dug

Post any Muslim paedophile news stories here.

Not even one in the news today here. Maybe tomorrow...

A thread called "Do Teakdoor condone stupid Threads?" is more apposit at the moment I think.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Abraham of the Christian sect was told by God -- who had taken the form of a burning bush for some reason -- to sacrifice his one and only son to him.

I believe this to be an allegorical story which is used to explain the end of Human Sacrifice as a practice to appease the gods(a practce carried out by other other cultures at the time)

Originally Posted by Overman

Plenty of Muslims crusing the streets in motors looking to pick up young girls & fuck them, usually after plying them with drink/drugs. Police/Social Services have got a special department to deal with them, but you still see them everywhere.

Not only Muslims, surely?

Originally Posted by Dug

ridiculous.

Yes. Keeping in step with the thread.

Three men have been jailed for a total of 18 years for the “calculating and evil” sexual abuse of a young teenage girl.
A court heard they saw the 14-year-old, who was running wild, as easy prey and plied her with drugs, alcohol and cigarettes.

Mohammed Zackriya, 21, of Springfield Road, Keighley, was jailed for eight years for oral rape and five offences of sexual activity with a child.

Judge Peter Benson told him he was cunning and manipulative beyond his years.

He gave the girl cannabis and alcohol and raped her on their first meeting. His victim, who is from the Skipton area, told police he was evil and had brainwashed her.

Mohammed Shabir, 36, a father-of-five, of Hawk Street, Keighley, was jailed for five years for three offences of having sex with the girl at Caesars takeaway restaurant in Newmarket Street, Skipton.

Wig-wearing Shabir, nicknamed Shabby, was 18 years older than the girl who was wearing her school uniform when she first went into Caesars.

Judge Benson said Shabir gave her cigarettes and food and tempted her with endearments. She became filled with self disgust, saying she was giving him sex for cigarettes.

Shabir was jailed for a further six months for contempt of court during the six-week trial. He shouted threats and racial abuse at a witness and tried to get out of the dock.

Mohammed Taj, 37, of Broughton Road, Skipton, was jailed for five years for three offences of having sex with the girl in his car.

The judge told the men each saw the opportunity for gratification with a vulnerable young girl.

During the trial, she was cross-examined closely while the three men showed a level of callous hypocrisy that was repugnant, he said

Not an isolated case

Not only Muslims, surely?

Actually, yes! The special unit I mentioned targets Asians only. They mean Muslims, but they're not allowed to say that.

Originally Posted by Overman

Mohammed Shabir, 36, a father-of-five, of Hawk Street, Keighley, was jailed for five years for three offences of having sex with the girl at Caesars takeaway restaurant in Newmarket Street, Skipton.

Wig-wearing Shabir, nicknamed Shabby, was 18 years older than the girl who was wearing her school uniform when she first went into Caesars.

So he's 36... and 18 years older than the girl... doesn't 36 - 18 = 18

Well... I'm convinced by all these fact.

Originally Posted by Dug

Fact. Mohamed took a wife at age 9.

Originally Posted by Dug

Fact: Mohamed had sex with a little girl.

taking a wife, and having sex are two different things.

Originally Posted by Dug

ridiculous.

yes, your arguments are.

FACT>

Originally Posted by good2bhappy

I believe this to be an allegorical story which is used to explain the end of Human Sacrifice as a practice to appease the gods(a practce carried out by other other cultures at the time)

hmmmm, is it possible that the Mohammad story is also ......

nah. couldnt be.

Originally Posted by kingwilly

Originally Posted by Dug

Fact. Mohamed took a wife at age 9.

Originally Posted by Dug

Fact: Mohamed had sex with a little girl.

taking a wife, and having sex are two different things.

Are you saying he didn't have sex with her?
Are you saying that marriages and sex between grown men and little girls are NOT permissable under islam.
Because that's what we're talking about.

So Mohammed was a pedo ?


Is this the floats like a butterfly stings like a bee mohammed, or another one ?

Of course pedos come in all shapes and sizes.
The point here is that under islam it is permissable.

Originally Posted by Dug

Of course pedos come in all shapes and sizes.
The point here is that under islam it is permissable.

I think they all have small penis' though.

Originally Posted by Dug

Of course pedos come in all shapes and sizes.
The point here is that under islam it is permissable.

This is no surprise coming from the religion of "peace" which condones the murder of women and children via suicide bomber by promising a heavenly prize of 72 virgins to the brave fellows who strap on the bombs.
Praise Allah!

Muhammad, Aisha, Islam, and Child Brides

3) EVIDENCE THAT AISHA WAS 9 WHEN SHE CONSUMMATED HER MARRIAGE
Now that we’ve established that Islam allows husbands to engage in sex with their child-brides, let’s move on to Muhammad and Aisha. The Islamic source materials state that Aisha was 9 when they consummated their marriage.
From the hadith of Bukhari, volume 5, #234

"Narrated Aisha: The prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six. We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Harith Kharzraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became all right, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's messenger came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age."

Bukhari vol. 7, #65:

"Narrated Aisha that the prophet wrote the marriage contract with her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: "I have been informed that Aisha remained with the prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death).""

From the hadith of Muslim, volume 2, #3309

Aisha reported: Allah’s Messenger married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house at the age of nine….

From the hadith of the Sunan of Abu Dawud, volume 2, #2116

"Aisha said, "The Apostle of Allah married me when I was seven years old." (The narrator Sulaiman said: "Or six years."). "He had intercourse with me when I was 9 years old."

From "The History of Tabari", volume 9, page 131

"Then the men and women got up and left. The Messenger of God consummated his marriage with me in my house when I was nine years old. Neither a camel nor a sheep was slaughtered on behalf of me"...(The Prophet) married her three years before the Emigration, when she was seven years old and consummated the marriage when she was nine years old, after he had emigrated to Medina in Shawwal. She was eighteen years old when he died.

From the Encyclopedia of Islam, under "Aisha":

"Some time after the death of Khadija, Khawla suggested to Muhammad that he should marry either Aisha, the 6 year old daughter of his chief follower, or Sawda Zama, a widow of about 30, who had gone as a Muslim to Abyssinia and whose husband had died there. Muhammad is said to have asked her to arrange for him to marry both. It had already been agreed that Aisha should marry Djubayr Mutim, whose father, though still pagan, was friendly to the Muslims. By common consent, however, this agreement was set aside, and Muhammad was betrothed to Aisha... The marriage was not consummated until some months after the Hidjra, (in April 623, 624). Aisha went to live in an apartment in Muhammad's house, later the mosque of Median. She cannot have been more than ten years old at the time and took her toys to her new home."

SUMMARY OF THE EVIDENCE OF AISHA'S AGE
The above references are just a sample of the Islamic source material statements that Aisha was 9 when her marriage was consummated. Over and over again the great Islamic scholars state that Aisha was 9 when her marriage was consummated. No serious Muslim scholar doubts this. Generally it is only embarrassed Muslims living in the West who challenge her age. For a more in-depth presentation of the evidence of Aisha’s age being 9, see Sam’s article here.

APPENDIX 6: ABUSIVE PRACTICES IN THE ISLAMIC WORLD TODAY
Sandra Mackey, in "Saudis, Inside the Desert Kingdom" writes on page 161:

"Girls are considered marriageable from the time they reach puberty. The lower class marries very young. The ages for marriage and first pregnancy on Tarut Island, off the east coast, were published in a rare study on women that I unearthed from a library. In the group as a whole, the mean age for marriage was fourteen, with the first pregnancy occurring at sixteen. Out of 193 girls, 3 married as young as ten. Among the Bedouins and the rural poor, a girl can be the second of two wives, married to a man older than her father, the mother of several children, and suffering from severe depression by the age of eighteen."

Jean Sasson writes in "Princess"
page 74:

In Saudi Arabia, the appearance of the first menses means that it is time to select the first veil and abaaya.

page 75:

A child enters the store, but a woman emerges, veiled, and on that day, of marriageable age. Her life changes in that split second.

There are other books I could quote from, but the above is enough to illustrate the point: the legal abuse of children exists in the Islamic world today. Many of them are coerced, either by their fathers, family, or their family’s financial situation, to accept marriage with a man old enough to be their grandfather. Other girls probably don't even understand what they are getting into when they are approached to marry a man.
Female children are valued greatly for their virginity, exploited by lustful old men, who purchase the girl with a dowry, and use them for sexual gratification. They are left to live as second class people in a culture based upon Muhammad's life. This is the Islam that Muslims in the West don't want to tell you about.

Muslims do not condone the acts of anyone except The Prophet
Paedophilia is not allowed under Islam(sex with pre-pubescents)
However females are seen as women when they reach puberty as printed, so some are very(too) young agreed