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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    Sorry to hear you've had such a bad time with Thais Edmond.
    I certainly wouldn't say that.

    But it's good to know that the people I have relationships with aren't in it for anything else. :-)



    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    they've always been very friendly and appreciative.
    Well, they do say that Thais are the best friends money can buy.




    Seriously though, good on you for being so financially kind etc, of course there are others way to be kind than giving out your pension and life savings.

    Just learn to put yourself before them, and don't feel guilty for it.

    Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    . I can only hope that it is not a return to chemo as it will no longer be subsidised,
    can i ask why that is Troy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    As some posters may be aware, my grand niece, Fie, has been under treatment in Khon Kaen hospital for Hodgin's Lymphoma for the last four years. She responded well to the stem cell therapy last year and I thought that, after four years battling the cancer, she had won. However, her MRI test last week revealed a couple of pea sized tumours in her neck and some signs that point to a return of lymphoma in her liver and spleen. We are awaiting the results of blood tests, but it doesn't look took good at the moment.

    We will receive the full report and future therapy on Thursday. I can only hope that it is not a return to chemo as it will no longer be subsidised, meaning I will have to pay for the treatment as well as the trips and accommodation. That is going to eat up most of my pension, so I'll have to continue working longer...already way overdue my retirement!


    How do these 'go fund me' sites work?
    This concerns me too. I have perhaps half a dozen family members I feel kind of responsible for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by malmomike77 View Post
    can i ask why that is Troy?
    As a single mother, the doctors managed to tap into funds to pay for the cancer treatment and the stem cell therapy. I only paid for the initial treatment, transport, and hotel costs. Not having to pay the full costs was a substantial weight lifted from their, and my, shoulders.
    It is very unlikely that they will be able to fund again. It depends on her condition, but such funding is given to those with good chances of success. Second chances are few and far between.

    As misskit very politely put it, there is no point trying to treat the improbable. It's a fact of life, a dilemma no one wishes to have to face.

    Edmond, this isn't some buffalo I'm being conned into helping. It's a young girl that would be long dead if my wife hadn't called the local hospital and had her diagnosed properly.

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    Exercise improves colon cancer survival, major study shows

    An exercise programme for colon cancer patients can cut the risk of dying by a third, a major international trial shows.

    The researchers said it was "not a large amount" of exercise and any type of workout from swimming to salsa classes counted.

    The results could change the way colon cancer is treated around the world.

    Scientists are already investigating whether similar exercise regimes could improve survival for people with other diseases, such as breast cancer.

    "It's a bit of a mind-shift, thinking of treatment as something you do, not just something you take," says researcher Prof Vicky Coyle from Queen's University Belfast.

    In the trial, the three-year exercise programme started soon after chemotherapy.

    The aim was to get people doing at least double the amount of exercise set out in the guidelines for the general population.

    That could be three-to-four sessions of brisk walking a week, lasting 45-60 minutes, Prof Coyle says.

    People got weekly face-to-face coaching sessions for the first six months, which then dropped to once a month.

    The trial, involving 889 patients, put half on the exercise programme. The other half were given leaflets promoting a healthy lifestyle.

    The results, published in the New England Journal of Medicine, showed after five years:


    • 80% of people exercising remained cancer-free
    • compared with 74% in the other group
    • meaning a 28% reduction in the risk of the cancer coming back, or a new one forming


    Meanwhile, eight years after the initial cancer treatment:


    • 10% of people on the exercise programme died
    • compared with 17% in the group given only health advice
    • marking a 37% lower risk of death


    Exactly why exercise has this beneficial effect is unknown, but ideas include the impact on growth hormones, inflammation levels in the body and how the immune system functions - which patrols the body for cancer.

    Dr Joe Henson, from the University of Leicester, said the results were "exciting".

    He added: "I saw first-hand that this reduced fatigue, lifted people's mood and boosted their physical strength.

    "We know that physical activity regulates several key biological processes that could explain these results, and further research will help us uncover why exercise is having such a positive impact."

    Colon cancer is the fourth most common cancer in the UK, with around 31,800 people diagnosed each year.

    Caroline Geraghty, from Cancer Research UK, said: "This trial has the potential to transform clinical practice, but only if health services have the necessary funding and staff to make it a reality for patients."

    Exercise improves colon cancer survival, major study shows
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    Quote Originally Posted by S Landreth View Post

    any type of workout from swimming to salsa classes counted.
    Yessss !

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    Could weight loss jabs raise your risk of getting cancer?


    Doctors have said there is a risk that weight loss jabs such as Ozempic and Mounjaro could raise the risk of being diagnosed with kidney cancer.

    A new major study has suggested the risk of getting kidney cancer could be slightly elevated for those who are using the weight loss medication.

    But medical experts say the risk of catching other obesity-related cancers is still lowered by using the jabs, meaning that for many, the benefits of taking the medication may still outweigh the risk.

    The statistics have come as a result of the world's largest study of weight-loss drug users, with experts studying a total of 86,000 obese or overweight patients and tracking their progress for up to a decade.

    Researchers found users had a 17 per cent lower risk of being diagnosed with a total of 16 cancers when taking weight loss medication.

    This was compared to people of similar weight who did not take the drugs.

    The risk of being diagnosed with endometrial cancers was reduced by 15 per cent and ovary cancer was reduced by 47 per cent.

    But the findings revealed that patients who took weight loss medications were in fact a third more likely to be diagnosed with kidney cancer.

    The scientists in the study recruited 43,000 patients who were on weight loss drugs, and matched them to 43,000 control patients who were not put on the medication.

    The participants had an average age of 52 and nearly seven in 10 were female.

    None of those involved had a cancer diagnosis at the start of the study and half of the 43,000 patients given the drugs were being treated for type 2 diabetes, while half took them purely for weight loss.

    Over an average of three years, researchers recorded 1,900 cases of 16 different cancers in the group.

    For kidney cancer specifically, there were 83 cases recorded among patients on GLP-1 drugs compared to 58 cases in the control group.

    Researchers said they plan to keep tracking the patients for longer to confirm the data and will be reliving further into analysing the results to look for trends.

    Could weight loss jabs raise your risk of getting cancer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    As a single mother, the doctors managed to tap into funds to pay for the cancer treatment and the stem cell therapy
    I'm no expert here so forgive me if i'm out of date or wrong but i Thought there was an initiative called Cancer Anywhere, that means she should be able to go to another locale and ask for treatment?

    here is a link

    Patients are satisfied with 'Cancer Anywhere'

    confusingly this article refers to Cancer Everywhere?

    Access to timely treatments through ‘Cancer Everywhere’

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    I suppose the point i'm trying to make is under cancer anywhere get her in to BKK and assigned to a hospital with a good record on cancer treatment and is specialist.

    In the family we had somone who had cancer and they lived in the eastern seaboard, got the housed in BKK and treated there under the universal scheme under this cancer anywhere initiative even after they'd been diagnosed locally.

    That was 2 1/2 years ago and i wasn't involved.

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    ^ Thanks. Much appreciated.

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    BKK and assigned to a hospital with a good record on cancer treatment and is specialist.
    siriraj govt. hospital, by the river.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    Could weight loss jabs raise your risk of getting cancer?


    Doctors have said there is a risk that weight loss jabs such as Ozempic and Mounjaro could raise the risk of being diagnosed with kidney cancer.

    A new major study has suggested the risk of getting kidney cancer could be slightly elevated for those who are using the weight loss medication.

    But medical experts say the risk of catching other obesity-related cancers is still lowered by using the jabs, meaning that for many, the benefits of taking the medication may still outweigh the risk.

    The statistics have come as a result of the world's largest study of weight-loss drug users, with experts studying a total of 86,000 obese or overweight patients and tracking their progress for up to a decade.

    Researchers found users had a 17 per cent lower risk of being diagnosed with a total of 16 cancers when taking weight loss medication.

    This was compared to people of similar weight who did not take the drugs.

    The risk of being diagnosed with endometrial cancers was reduced by 15 per cent and ovary cancer was reduced by 47 per cent.

    But the findings revealed that patients who took weight loss medications were in fact a third more likely to be diagnosed with kidney cancer.

    The scientists in the study recruited 43,000 patients who were on weight loss drugs, and matched them to 43,000 control patients who were not put on the medication.

    The participants had an average age of 52 and nearly seven in 10 were female.

    None of those involved had a cancer diagnosis at the start of the study and half of the 43,000 patients given the drugs were being treated for type 2 diabetes, while half took them purely for weight loss.

    Over an average of three years, researchers recorded 1,900 cases of 16 different cancers in the group.

    For kidney cancer specifically, there were 83 cases recorded among patients on GLP-1 drugs compared to 58 cases in the control group.

    Researchers said they plan to keep tracking the patients for longer to confirm the data and will be reliving further into analysing the results to look for trends.

    Could weight loss jabs raise your risk of getting cancer?
    I recently heard that trials on mounjaro have proven to be beneficial for sleep apnea sufferers.

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