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    Cooking facts or fallacy

    I was on the phone today and we were talking about potatoes, yes a bit unusual as I don't normally talk about potatoes on the phone, but it suddenly dawned on me why chips or French fries as the Americans like to call them are really shite in Thailand.

    Now we have numerous threads on here about the problems of making pastry dough due to the ambient temperatures and some unusual ways of over coming this little problem.

    So onto chips and roast potatoes, now in most countries we keep our potatoes in a cool dark place, so when we start to prepare the potatoes they are at about 60 degrees, here they are at about 85 degrees, is this starting temperature what makes chips and roast potatoes in Thailand so crap?

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    I make superb roasties and chips with locally bought spuds. No problem.

    Daft thread.

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    Your not even English, what would you know about spuds?

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    I like Desiree spuds for roasties but cost an arm and a leg in Villa. Here is a great site all about spuds

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    Imo, Spud's we get here in LOS are not great, Some of the bigger white spuds can be mashed / roasted to a level that's ok. The smaller "new spuds " are usually
    not fit for purpose. Coming from Ireland I used to moan about English spud's { with good reason } Although King Edwards etc are decent roastie's. I'd kill
    for a bag of kerr's pink's. I mean I would really !! Spud's are not meant to taste
    waxy, there supposed to taste earthy and fluffy

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    They are low in starch.

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    Different spuds have different characteristics. Starchy spuds are better for frying, waxy spuds better for steaming or boiling.

    In Thailand, I've noticed the local spuds are often a pale yellow colour inside, rather than the white I'm used to. They're not great for chipping, but actually they're quite tasty in their own right- and fine for boiling, baking or sauteing. Whilst they might not match Premium spuds back home, they compare just fine to standard supermarket spuds in the west as far as I'm concerned (ie 80% + of the market), in fact I'd say they have more flavour. I don't know why that is- maybe the organic richness of the soil they're grown on here, but thats just a wild guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog View Post
    I was on the phone today and we were talking about potatoes, yes a bit unusual as I don't normally talk about potatoes on the phone, but it suddenly dawned on me why chips or French fries as the Americans like to call them are really shite in Thailand.

    Now we have numerous threads on here about the problems of making pastry dough due to the ambient temperatures and some unusual ways of over coming this little problem.

    So onto chips and roast potatoes, now in most countries we keep our potatoes in a cool dark place, so when we start to prepare the potatoes they are at about 60 degrees, here they are at about 85 degrees, is this starting temperature what makes chips and roast potatoes in Thailand so crap?
    My Mrs bought 10kg of large potatoes a while back and I'm not eating anywhere near as much as I used to so yesterday, rather then let them go to waste, I cut a heap of chips and half cooked them and then froze them.
    Can't get much cooler and darker than in a freezer so I'll see how they turn out next time I feel like a few chips.

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    The best chips I have made here was by par boiling them, then chucking them in water and in the fridge for a couple of days, I think the start temperature has a lot to do with making chips taste nice and being the right texture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog View Post
    I was on the phone today and we were talking about potatoes, yes a bit unusual as I don't normally talk about potatoes on the phone, but it suddenly dawned on me why chips or French fries as the Americans like to call them are really shite in Thailand.

    Now we have numerous threads on here about the problems of making pastry dough due to the ambient temperatures and some unusual ways of over coming this little problem.

    So onto chips and roast potatoes, now in most countries we keep our potatoes in a cool dark place, so when we start to prepare the potatoes they are at about 60 degrees, here they are at about 85 degrees, is this starting temperature what makes chips and roast potatoes in Thailand so crap?
    I don't usually eat chips (as you call them), in Thailand, but the french fries in 'Oh My Cod's' are not shite. They are real chips. Now the Jacket Potatoes from 'Oh My Cod' in Bangkok are also delicious. The fish is too....stop me now!

    Couldn't really answer why the rest are shite.

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    Think it's the pots you get here. Too sweet. Roasties and jacket spuds are just too damn sweet made with local pots. Not nice. I still cook them, though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by November Rain
    Not nice. I still cook them, though...
    We just have to make do with what we can get!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by phuketbound
    I don't usually eat chips (as you call them), in Thailand, but the french fries in 'Oh My Cod's' are not shite. They are real chips. Now the Jacket Potatoes from 'Oh My Cod' in Bangkok are also delicious. The fish is too....stop me now!
    let me guess, you like eating at oh my cod?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog
    is this starting temperature what makes chips and roast potatoes in Thailand so crap?
    I think it is. Root cellars we called the storage room where I come from. Cool and dark.

    I keep my spuds in the fridge and they seem to be just fine for just about any potato dish. Also, in the fridge they will not sprout as quickly.

    Oil used for deep frying chips determines the taste to the greatest degree. Palm oil is the norm here and is the reason they do not taste the same as french fries in the US.

    I find a mixture of beef tallow and some type of vegetable oil gives the taste I prefer. In the US, russet potatoes are the best. Decent potatoes can be found here but a bit iffy at times. Good potatoes are important but if you want your chips to taste like those back home use the oil they use in your hometown and even cardboard will taste pretty good.
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    Chips twice cooked in dripping are the best.

    Bacon fat, beef fat, lamb fat poured off the pan and kept in the fridge.

    Dripping gets hotter than oil.

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    At the top of Everest you can neither boil an egg nor brew a cup of tea.
    Fact or fiction?

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    Quote Originally Posted by good2bhappy
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    Fact. Low pressure makes water boil at about 60C not really hot enough to boil an egg or brew a proper cup o' tea.

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