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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluecat View Post
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    He's sold his stock and is back in the UK for now, Bluecat.
    Sorry to hear that.
    Problems with the farm?
    Problems with the wife?
    Or problems with Thailand?
    There's a thread all about it somewhere. Just search for all the threads RC has started and it'll be easy to spot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ceburat View Post
    Korat Frang Forum has a good bit on farming. A lady named "BINA" american lady married to a Thai is very up on farming and goat raising. I think she will return to Thailand soon. Her husband is from a MuBaan just south of Korat about 25 kilometers. There is also a german fellow their who raises goats. She, Bina is always active on the forum. Random Chances plans to return to Thailand and still post there as do many other knowledgeable farang farmers in the North East, Issan. Very informative threads about farming. Also TV has some good Issan farming threads. I have done nothing towards farming in Thailand so far except to read. I am just now finishing building a house. I need a rest. I am interested in fish farming on a serious basis, however, I don't yet have the required knowledge. From what I have learned you must be sharp street wise and well as knowledgeable about the procedure. Great market for all fish here.
    Hi Ceburat.

    Yes Bina is very active also on TV, I think she is from Israel, they are working there now.
    I sure hope RC will be back, he is a great guy so all the best to him.
    If you are interested in doing fish on a serious and intensive basis, then you should visit me, that is our main business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalton View Post
    Hi TD members

    Does any of you do some kind of farming ? fish, chickens, ducks, cattle, or any form for crops, corn, rice and so on.
    If you would like to share your experience or have some questions, then please post it on this thread.

    Thanks.
    first. congratulations, dalton-it seems your farming forum has started up without help from the mods!
    i farm clarias catfish in tanks, stocked at 2000 fingerlings per cubic metre.
    it is possible to raise up to two tons of catfish in a single tank, dimensions: 2m x 1mx 1m. ie a ton of fish per cubic metre! the thais think i am fukkn crazy, coz they have been taught not to stock more than 100 fish per square metre. my fish grow out far faster than theirs, are easy to harvest, taste better, and do not stink.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsicar
    first. congratulations, dalton-it seems your farming forum has started up without help from the mods!
    Thanks for the support, lets see how it goes, if the thread gets a fair bit of posting, the mods might grant us a forum or sub-forum, time will tell.
    I'm looking forward to your return to Thailand, and to see the operation getting up and running, after all we are only 70km apart, so see you soon.

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    Let's try to help this farming forum along with a serious question.

    Here is the deal. We have 5 rai of a big rice field outside of P-Lok. The land is paid for, we don't have to pay for anything all we do is collect the rent from the local farmer using our land. It ain't much.

    So what could we do with this land instead of renting to the locals to make money farming?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsicar
    t is possible to raise up to two tons of catfish in a single tank, dimensions: 2m x 1mx 1m. ie a ton of fish per cubic metre! the thais think i am fukkn crazy, coz they have been taught not to stock more than 100 fish per square metre. my fish grow out far faster than theirs, are easy to harvest, taste better, and do not stink.
    That's about the size of our tank - interesting.
    But once you go for wholesaling the fish, there isn't much profit in it and you have to know what you are doing, I heard - right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hillbilly View Post
    Let's try to help this farming forum along with a serious question.

    Here is the deal. We have 5 rai of a big rice field outside of P-Lok. The land is paid for, we don't have to pay for anything all we do is collect the rent from the local farmer using our land. It ain't much.

    So what could we do with this land instead of renting to the locals to make money farming?
    Hi HB

    That depends on many things,how much work and money are you willing to invest in it, that is the first question ? rice is small money, that's a given, sugar-cane and corn isent much better. Then you can do eucalyptus, rubber or teak, that is long term, but dosent involve to much work. One thing I have noticed is the price soybean, it has increased with almost 40% over the last 4 month, and there is no sign of it going down, since they are using it for bio-fuel and it's number 1 raw-material in most animal feed. If I had some spare land I would look into soybean.
    But to give you a correct advise, then you need to consider how much you are willing to invest in it.

    Cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stroller
    That's about the size of our tank - interesting. But once you go for wholesaling the fish, there isn't much profit in it and you have to know what you are doing, I heard - right?
    Tsicar is talking about recirculation systems, same thing as I have, you can have very high stocking density in those systems, as long as it all works. You need to have a good working biofilter, a drumfilter or large settlement tank to remove the solids bigger than 30 to 50 micron, smaller than that you need protein-skimmers to remove the tiny ones. And most important you need a generator as back-up in-case of power-cut, if you dont have that, then you will have a lot of dead fish within minutes. The system requires 24 hours observation, not a walk in the park..

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    Sounds like work to me.
    I'd rather stick with throwing in a few pellets now and then, thanks.

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    ^ Sure it is, but also very interesting if you have the time to do it, ono problem is that it cant be left alone, it could lead to disaster, but if runned like a business, then it's a great challenge. We do all ourself from hatching the fry, nursery ponds, from there into the intensive recirculation system, after that of to the market. We also make our floating pellets used for feeding the fish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluecat
    nice guy by any standards and so is his wife.
    His wife is a bloke? He kept that a bit quiet

    I have a pond on my land, it is about 50 meters by 10 meters, if I stuck like a 1,000 baby catfish in there, how many years would it be till it was full of catfish?

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    ^ It depends if you drained the pond before you released the catfish fry, if you dident then it will take a awfull lot of years, because they have probably ended up as dinner for some snake-head fish already in the pond.
    If the pond was cleared for predators and the fish are being giving feed regulary, it will take about 6-7 month, if you feed them intensive then about 4-5 month, all depending of the water quality.

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    Apart from the work involved, what about financial input and rewards at the end of the day.
    If I could get a few tons of Pla Duk retailing at 50bt/kilo I'd be laughing!

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    ^ The key-point to make money in fish farming is to avoid the middle man or agent as they offen are called, most people cant do that because there production is to small to supply the market. One exsample, in Supanburi they sell pla duc at the gate for 27-29 baht/kg, when the middle man sells them to the people in the market, the price is 40 baht/kg, then it's sold again to the consumer for 45-50 baht/kg. The trick is to find your own market to supply, even if it's only small scale, I have done both with catfish and now with pla Nin and Tap Tim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rigger View Post
    The family do a bit
    Rice, Catfish, Corn, Charcoal, water mellons, chickens, Ducks.
    I was going to do the cattle thing but we really dont have the time as they need to much attention. Opening a whole sale bulk buy shop next year and will sell stuff from the farm as well as beer ice noddles and some stuff for the ladys jeans shoes and handbags . I cant see it making any big money but should keep the family busy and make a bit of profit as there is nothing like it in the village

    I dont do any farming myself I just drink piss and ride
    And shoot the cows

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalton View Post
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    duckweed grow in the fields. We then strip it out and feed our fish with it. They love it.
    I surpose that you have pla Nim and Tap Tim in your pond ?? How big are the pond and how many fish do you put in ?

    we have ruby, catfish, snakehead and lots of others, all wild

    the pond is about 20m x 20m and 3m deep in the middle

    we don't put fish in; in the wet season the rice fields flood and the fish go into the fields from the rivers. They then like to come into the pond, do some breeding and/or get caught
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    I'm not into farming or business but the one sort of farming that I would have thought profitable, in Thailand, would be rats. No big outlay, prolific breeders and highly neutritious. Plus I believe a good export demand to Cambodia. As I said I'm not into business but if I was I would look deeply into this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy
    we don't put fish in; in the wet season the rice fields flood and the fish go into the fields from the rivers. They then like to come into the pond, do some breeding and/or get caught
    I would imagine that you have some very big snake-head in there, they are having a feast on all the fry..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivor Biggun
    As I said I'm not into business but if I was I would look deeply into this.
    Might be an good idea, PM me if you want to look futher into this, I could be interested as well.

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    Does anyone do rabbits?

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    ^ There is some, but the market in Thailand for rabbit isent very big, frogs are better, if looking at some small scale bizz

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    ^^don't get personal stroller....

    Snakehead fish is the one that Thais keep as pets in a fish tank? ie a big tank and one snakehead with a few other little fish in for them to eat, now assuming I have the right fish these sell for upto 100k baht for a big colorful one, the babies are 500baht each, normal big one is about 10k baht, wouldn't they be a good fish to breed in my pond?

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    Okay I have put a bit more thought into this, say tomorrow I chuck in 100 guppies, leave them for a year or 2 to populate the pond, then I go and buy say 50 snakehead fish babies, then another year on if I want a couple of thousand baht real quick I can do a bit of fishing and whip the snakehead down to the petshop?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog
    Snakehead fish is the one that Thais keep as pets in a fish tank
    Nope DD, it's a different one, the snake-head or pla-chon as its called in Thai, sells for around 80 to 120 baht/kg. not 100K sorry

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog
    Okay I have put a bit more thought into this, say tomorrow I chuck in 100 guppies, leave them for a year or 2 to populate the pond, then I go and buy say 50 snakehead fish babies, then another year on if I want a couple of thousand baht real quick I can do a bit of fishing and whip the snakehead down to the petshop?
    I dont think the pet shop want that kind of snake-head...you better try the fresh market, but forget about the 100K

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