Thread: American tomatoes

After a lot of trial and err, I finally harvested from my American tomatoe seeds. I grew excellant big juicy, and tart ...delicious. The second generation plants are ready to go in the ground. Will the second generation adapt to the heat and give me a better yield ? Even if I can't increase the yield, if the quality stays as good, I will always have fresh and delicious tomatoes. Big juicy Western tomatoes.

Nothing wrong with Thai tomatoes - although loads of whinging retards think so (not saying you're one).

Originally Posted by Dapper

Nothing wrong with Thai tomatoes - although loads of whinging retards think so (not saying you're one).

Seems to me medium sized Thai tomatoes taste better than the big beefymofomaters.
I've made some kickass pasta sauce and salads.

Haven't yet tried growing any.
I'm still trying to get an avocado tree to start!

Originally Posted by Dapper

Nothing wrong with Thai tomatoes - although loads of whinging retards think so (not saying you're one).

So what strain of Thai tomato are you growing so successfully.

Originally Posted by tunk

American tomatoes

fat, full of shit and packing a gun?

I had quite a large tomato farm here for several years. Growing and selling Filipino tomatoes - small, greenish-orange, not very juicy. I tried several varieties of American seeds with mixed and generally disappointing results. Some Beefsteak plants produced some very large, juicy tomatoes, but a very small yield per plant. Roma tomatoes were a total failure. I eventually gave it up. Might try it again this year.

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

I had quite a large tomato farm here for several years. Growing and selling Filipino tomatoes - small, greenish-orange, not very juicy. I tried several varieties of American seeds with mixed and generally disappointing results. Some Beefsteak plants produced some very large, juicy tomatoes, but a very small yield per plant. Roma tomatoes were a total failure. I eventually gave it up. Might try it again this year.

I remember and thought you had done rather well, with the first crop or two at least.

At around the same time, tomatoes were being grown in my neck of the woods of Isaan, after main crop rice, around Christmas time. The local farmers were given the seeds and fertilizer from a company who then bought the tomatoes from them at a set price. These were mainly used for their seeds, which were sold around the world, certainly to the EU and quite possibly to the US...

I can't remember when it all died a death locally to the village, a few years back and probably due to illness of one of the main participants (often the case). A pity because we had a lot of very cheap/free tomatoes during that period and I managed to show off some culinary skills with chutney and jams to the delight of many.

Hope you enjoy a spot more tomato farming if you get the time....

Originally Posted by Troy

I remember and thought you had done rather well, with the first crop or two at least.

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We did do fairly well for two years, then got typhoon smacked two years in a row.

Originally Posted by Troy

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

I had quite a large tomato farm here for several years. Growing and selling Filipino tomatoes - small, greenish-orange, not very juicy. I tried several varieties of American seeds with mixed and generally disappointing results. Some Beefsteak plants produced some very large, juicy tomatoes, but a very small yield per plant. Roma tomatoes were a total failure. I eventually gave it up. Might try it again this year.

I remember and thought you had done rather well, with the first crop or two at least.

At around the same time, tomatoes were being grown in my neck of the woods of Isaan, after main crop rice, around Christmas time. The local farmers were given the seeds and fertilizer from a company who then bought the tomatoes from them at a set price. These were mainly used for their seeds, which were sold around the world, certainly to the EU and quite possibly to the US...

I can't remember when it all died a death locally to the village, a few years back and probably due to illness of one of the main participants (often the case). A pity because we had a lot of very cheap/free tomatoes during that period and I managed to show off some culinary skills with chutney and jams to the delight of many.

Hope you enjoy a spot more tomato farming if you get the time....

the main reason is similar to our locals growing corn ie an extra 10 pc levied on top because of inferior crop making the profit margin far below to that was promised basically a rip off

Originally Posted by Kurgen

Originally Posted by tunk

American tomatoes

fat, full of shit and packing a gun?

Originally Posted by Kurgen

Originally Posted by tunk

American tomatoes

fat, full of shit and packing a gun?

Okay +1 to you... nicely done...
You Eurotard in skinny jeans

Originally Posted by Jester

Originally Posted by Kurgen

Originally Posted by tunk

American tomatoes

fat, full of shit and packing a gun?

Okay +1 to you... nicely done...
You Eurotard in skinny jeans

actually I'm wearing my leopard skin onesie

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

I'm still trying to get an avocado tree to start!

Was up in Mae Hong Son recently and sampled the hill-tribe avocados.

Introduced 20 odd years ago, but so much better than the original seeds now.

Best avocados i've ever come across now grown in the north.

Originally Posted by Dapper

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

I'm still trying to get an avocado tree to start!

Was up in Mae Hong Son recently and sampled the hill-tribe avocados.

Introduced 20 odd years ago, but so much better than the original seeds now.

Best avocados i've ever come across now grown in the north.

Worth making a trip up there just for that.
Do the trees produce year-round or is now the season?

I plenty cherry tomatoes in Phetchabun and they grew like weeds everywhere.
Tasted mighty fine too, the family love them in their Som Tam.

Well done, thai tomatoes are tasteless compared to what I was used to in UK, Tops have some fine imported ones and will try again to grow some.

Originally Posted by mykthemin

Well done, thai tomatoes are tasteless compared to what I was used to in UK, Tops have some fine imported ones and will try again to grow some.

I have some good Australian seeds, gave some to a Thai lady who grew some really nice Toms, whilst she was away they ripened beautifully. When she came back i gave her some more seed which grew very well having loads of fruit, however she pulled them all out of the ground, when i asked her why, she said " Tomato no good all green" ........stupid bitch did'nt let them ripen, so that is the last seed she gets from me. I think the best time to plant them here on Samui is about oct/nov. Will try then.

Thai tomatoes are small, dry, and tasteless. And imported tomatoes don't compare to fresh off the vine. I am hoping that the second or third generation will adapt to this heat and I will get a higher yield. If not I will still grow enough for myself.

I tried growing some type of western tomatoes a few years ago but didn't get very far with the project.
Strangely though the ones that I just left laying on the soil seemed to do much better than the ones held up with strings and sticks?

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Good luck. Growing tomatoes in tropics never easy.

The "thai" tomatoes my missus grows are very good if you let them vine ripen. Juicy and nice flavor. The ones you get in the market are often picked unripe so they don't spoil on the shelf.

Originally Posted by Norton

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Good luck. Growing tomatoes in tropics never easy.

The "thai" tomatoes my missus grows are very good if you let them vine ripen. Juicy and nice flavor.

That's my experience with home growns here as well.

I suspect most have been limited to the proverbial "Thai tomatoes", as there are a decent stock/variety available for garden use that are almost never found commercially.

A heritage variety can be secured and grown for personal use - quite nice.

Forgot to mention in my post above, I also tried cherry tomatoes - good taste, but very low yield per plant. All in all, I tried five types of American seeds - only beefsteak and cherry were good, but both with low yields.

I think I'll have my brother send me some packs of seeds and try again this year in an area with better soil.

Originally Posted by Norton

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Good luck. Growing tomatoes in tropics never easy.

The "thai" tomatoes my missus grows are very good if you let them vine ripen. Juicy and nice flavor. The ones you get in the market are often picked unripe so they don't spoil on the shelf.

What makes you say that. Central Queensland Coast is in the tropics and one of the main crops is Tomatoes, hundreds of acres of it.

Originally Posted by Happy Dave

Originally Posted by Norton

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Good luck. Growing tomatoes in tropics never easy.

The "thai" tomatoes my missus grows are very good if you let them vine ripen. Juicy and nice flavor. The ones you get in the market are often picked unripe so they don't spoil on the shelf.

What makes you say that. Central Queensland Coast is in the tropics and one of the main crops is Tomatoes, hundreds of acres of it.

One could be a purist and suggest that the current variety of tomato strains throughout the world - ranging from very tropical to very alpine [and every clime in between] - have been extremely engineered for those particular sub-climate conditions, as the fruit wouldn't grow there in normal conditions.

A native to Mexico, and suited to higher altitude/equatorial climes [similar to coffee and tea], one will find a true native quality and substance in tomatoes from these regions.

We've conditioned ourselves to find the very hybrid varieties [grown everywhere today] as supreme, when they really fall short of such quality regardless of the engineered sub-variety - as that's all we've known for generations.

Originally Posted by thaimeme

Originally Posted by Happy Dave

Originally Posted by Norton

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Good luck. Growing tomatoes in tropics never easy.

The "thai" tomatoes my missus grows are very good if you let them vine ripen. Juicy and nice flavor. The ones you get in the market are often picked unripe so they don't spoil on the shelf.

What makes you say that. Central Queensland Coast is in the tropics and one of the main crops is Tomatoes, hundreds of acres of it.

One could be a purist and suggest that the current variety of tomato strains throughout the world - ranging from very tropical to very alpine [and every clime in between] - have been extremely engineered for those particular sub-climate conditions, as the fruit wouldn't grow there in normal conditions.

A native to Mexico, and suited to higher altitude/equatorial climes [similar to coffee and tea], one will find a true native quality and substance in tomatoes from these regions.

We've conditioned ourselves to find the very hybrid varieties [grown everywhere today] as supreme, when they really fall short of such quality regardless of the engineered sub-variety - as that's all we've known for generations.

Agreed. As I read through the thread, this was what I was going to say, too.
What are now called heirloom tomatoes are what our grandparents grew in the back yard (many varieties). Maybe mishapen, maybe too big and liable to split, maybe susceptible to adverse climate....all the little imperfections have been bred out of today's commercially grown toms. Taste has been a casualty of this selective breeding.
I grew some heirloom toms a few years back in Auckland. Funny, grotesque shapes, but wow what a taste. Absolutely delicious as a fruit to munch on, or in salads. And they really make a difference to tomato sauce for pasta.

It's not good enough to get hybrids. They taste bland.

My suggestion is to source heirloom toms with regard to climate....most likely Mexican.