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    Skills facilitating finding a job in Thailand

    Hi everyone!
    My plans of moving to Thailand were interrupted by some tragic events which changed the course of my life, so for now Im back in Sweden with a tiny baby for a year or two before I can regroup and move. Also now I will need to look at jobs in Thailand (as tough as I know it is) as at the moment I cant start my own business there. Since I have at least a year and a half Im thinking to use it to study to get some better skills. And there comes the questions.
    I have worked as assistent manager in a store, choreographer. Have translated books and done project managing in advertising agency but there I have no references. By education am lawyer, but haven't worked as one. Have 3 languages fluent, 3 so so. Am going to study thai language, but am also considering taking a short course in hotel management and something in IT, maybe graphic designer, thinking that I have already lot of Photoshop skills and as plan B I could try working online.
    What would be your advice , which areas in IT could be helpful to study, and how about hotel management (I'm not aiming at big companies and hotel chains; i have experience running a company so I might be interesting in a smaller scale)?
    Any other thoughts? All insights much appreciated.

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    Try XXX IT. Very successful enterprise I hear.

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    Teaching.

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    Get a job with a Swedish employer who don't have a problem with you working remotely.

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    Ikea are hiring.

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    Learn Russian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickpattaya
    Learn Russian.
    Quite a wise recommendation.

    Those that are fluent in Russian, English and Thai will do very well here especially in the hospitality industry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
    Get a job with a Swedish employer who don't have a problem with you working remotely.
    Best advice so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Necron99
    Teaching.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
    Get a job with a Swedish employer who don't have a problem with you working remotely.
    Quote Originally Posted by rickpattaya
    Learn Russian.
    All solid advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier
    All solid advice.
    Albert, if you had all the skills listed by this OP would you be asking for advice on TD?

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    ^I didn't think there was much work for a dancing bi-lingual lawyer and was trying to be helpful.

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    Sorry Shag just thinking he's a bit over qualified to be searching high and low for a position or occupation on Teak Door. The word "Troll," comes to mind for me. Hence my suggestion he IT it to XXX land. You missed his IT skills assessment didn't you?

    No harm no foul, just folks sharing a laugh and buddy chat, ho, ho, ho...

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    First, thanks for all the serious advice I actually have rudimentary and rusty Russian skills, that I could brush up, so Im very thankful for this tip. I could also look at IKEA as I have had good position working in a store. Clearly I have to learn Thai also.
    I would also be thankful if anybody would be able to comment on IT, if for ex., taking a course in graphic design or smth else could help me. I might stay in Sweden for 2 years or so - hope will have time to complete some courses!
    Also to find a job with Swedish employer or have own company and work online has crossed my mind - its pretty tough, but I have it as plan B
    Now, I also have to answer ltnt: Im very surprised that you think my skills would give me a great job in Thailand. Foreigners arent allowed to work as lawyers. All less skilled IT workers (like me) are two-a-penny in Thailand. Choreography can never land me a job in Thailand, and shop managers are local people. So I really dont understand why the comment about the troll. Unless you misunderstood my IT skills level, its clear I really am not that employable in Thailand, or I wouldnt be asking advice.

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    Pal -= I know the nmods deleted my fine suggestion that Ikea was hiring, but actually, they are.

    Now - unless you want to mess around telfing, find Swedish firms and apply to the swedish GMs directly for a job. There were 2 at Ikea, the better fit one now closed thanks to the fool Mod that deleted my suggestion, you missed it.

    When you grow, IKEA grows too.

    About the job
    ABOUT THE JOB
    You will be an inspriational leader who can energise, motivate and lead your team of dedicated co-workers to provide a safe and secure environment for our customers and co-workers by safeguarding our property and delivering effective safety and security programs.

    YOUR ASSIGNMENT
    Your tasks will include:

    secure effective best practices safety systems.
    deliver lowest possible loss prevention for the store.
    monitor internal and external IKEA related incidents.
    drive a cutlture where all co-workers accept responsibility for safety and security in their day-to-day workplace.

    YOUR PROFILE
    Your knowledge, skills and experience include:
    Big box approach;high volume, muti-unit experience in safety, risk management and/or security.


    Eyes in the back of your head ; keen attention to detail and an understanding of the bigger picture.
    Energetic leadership style; this is one department that is never quiet!
    Investigator's logic ; get to the bottom of things, quickly!
    The ability to think outside the flat-pack ; influence and communicate
    A passion for life at home ; the confidence to say " Yes I love IKEA"

    GROWING TOGETHER
    IKEA offers an exciting and empowering work environment in a global marketplace. And as the world’s leader at life at home, you have exceptional opportunities to grow and develop together with us.
    Job ID 161918BR
    Removal Date 05/06/2013

    Good luck, and remember, don't get drunk as an egg.

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    How to make a reasonable living in Thailand, don't know if it is possible, unless you have a skill that few have. If computer based you are competing aganst the world and know few who have made it. One guy who lived here, moved to Lao, translates Japanese engineering specification into English. Another guy who arranges short term working permits for Thais in Sweden, in the hotel industry. He gets a percentage of their pay, paid by the employer I believe and does OK by the look of it. Another who is a University lecturer, been here over 20 years.
    Everyone else scraps a living out of teaching English.

    Some do ok or better than ok opening their own businesses, but usually not bars, resturants or resorts. They have specialized skills needed in Thailand, aircon engineers for big buildings, people who produce products cheaper here than in the west, which need hi tech workers not available in cheaper labor countries and of course parts available here for there products.

    None of these business are going to be cheap to set up.

    It's a competitive world and chances are if you can not make it in your home country, you won't make it here. Jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThamNamThalu View Post
    Hi everyone!
    My plans of moving to Thailand were interrupted by some tragic events which changed the course of my life, so for now Im back in Sweden with a tiny baby for a year or two before I can regroup and move. Also now I will need to look at jobs in Thailand (as tough as I know it is) as at the moment I cant start my own business there. Since I have at least a year and a half Im thinking to use it to study to get some better skills. And there comes the questions.
    I have worked as assistent manager in a store, choreographer. Have translated books and done project managing in advertising agency but there I have no references. By education am lawyer, but haven't worked as one. Have 3 languages fluent, 3 so so. Am going to study thai language, but am also considering taking a short course in hotel management and something in IT, maybe graphic designer, thinking that I have already lot of Photoshop skills and as plan B I could try working online.
    What would be your advice , which areas in IT could be helpful to study, and how about hotel management (I'm not aiming at big companies and hotel chains; i have experience running a company so I might be interesting in a smaller scale)?
    Any other thoughts? All insights much appreciated.

    with those qualifications I reckon you could run the country.

    PM of Thailand is not on the list of things Farangs cannot do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamescollister
    arranges short term working permits for Thais in Sweden, in the hotel industry. He gets a percentage of their pay
    I wonder how some people sleep at night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bazzy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jamescollister
    arranges short term working permits for Thais in Sweden, in the hotel industry. He gets a percentage of their pay
    I wonder how some people sleep at night.
    Think it is all above board, workers got paid the Government rate and housed etc. The hotels just can't get cleaners and general staff from the local population. Thais do the job, make their money and go home.
    You would have to look at guess workers regulations in Sweden to see if it was fair or not. Jim

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    ^ fair enough. The exchange probably says more about my own value system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThamNamThalu
    Foreigners arent allowed to work as lawyers.
    Actually they are. I know one. You need to do more research and less B.S.

    Plenty of foreigner's working in Thailand.

    Some foreigners making millions and others loosing millions. Most just pretending to be working. Some TEF'lers doing quite well according to rumors. I know one by golf acquaintance that make well over $120,000 a year at the international school on Phuket Island. He has far less qualifications than yourself if that's any indication.

    Hotel chains and franchise merchants are doing quite well here.

    There is a practicing American Lawyer in Bangtao as well. Bangkok and Chaing Mai has loads of them.

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    Try Terta Pack based in Pattaya. It's a Swedish company.

    Russian is a wise choice. I learned it although as yet have needed it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ltnt View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ThamNamThalu
    Foreigners arent allowed to work as lawyers.
    Actually they are. I know one. You need to do more research and less B.S.

    Plenty of foreigner's working in Thailand.

    Some foreigners making millions and others loosing millions. Most just pretending to be working. Some TEF'lers doing quite well according to rumors. I know one by golf acquaintance that make well over $120,000 a year at the international school on Phuket Island. He has far less qualifications than yourself if that's any indication.

    Hotel chains and franchise merchants are doing quite well here.

    There is a practicing American Lawyer in Bangtao as well. Bangkok and Chaing Mai has loads of them.
    itnt, never believe a word that comes out of any lieyers mouth.

    APEC economy: Thailand; Jurisdiction: Thailand

    Temporary practice ('fly-in, fly-out' practice)

    There is no express rule allowing temporary practice by foreign lawyers.
    Limited licensing of foreign lawyers (foreign legal consultant rules)

    A foreign lawyer can obtain a limited licence entitling them to offer advisory services in foreign and international law (ie become a foreign legal consultant).
    Full licensing

    A foreign lawyer cannot obtain a full licence to practise law in this jurisdiction. The relevant impediment is: According to the Lawyers Act VE 2528 (AD 1985), section 35, being a Thai national is one of the required qualifications for registration and obtaining the licence to become a lawyer.

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    Well James seems they can and do practice. Look at the numbers of "On-line legal services." offered in Thailand. Most expressly indicating US or Euro Lawyers for hire.

    I agree you may have some red tape when offering such services, ie: Thai Partnership, or Limited Partnership, however International law is practiced in Thailand utilizing Foreign lawyers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ltnt View Post
    Well James seems they can and do practice. Look at the numbers of "On-line legal services." offered in Thailand. Most expressly indicating US or Euro Lawyers for hire.

    I agree you may have some red tape when offering such services, ie: Thai Partnership, or Limited Partnership, however International law is practiced in Thailand utilizing Foreign lawyers.
    You can call yourself what ever you like, but your work permit will be something like office or business manager. Many Thais claim to be lawyers, but are in fact just notaries. Pays to check who you are really dealing with before you part with money, anywhere in the world. Jim

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    I'm dealing with nobody in that profession at present, Jim. My Thai Lawyer was a Graduate in Law and practiced law as well as runs a quite successful accountancy firm.

    My American Lawyer friend in Bangkok also practices law in Thailand and was a graduate from the US Military Academy. Law degree after service.

    I suggest your advice would be for the OP as I have no need of it. Thanks anyway.
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