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    Just stand underneath and keep farting in its general direction and all will be well.

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    So, after six pages of physics and mechanical engineering have we a conclusion as to the best way to ventilate under-the-roof space in Thailand?

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    Maybe we could organise a trial. We'll have one member stand under a fan and fart a lot, a second stand there and blow wind from his mouth, a third can wave a fan up the fan, a fourth can hold up a heater to cause the hot air to rise and a fifth can operate a powered fan as a comparison. Half an hour of that should give us all the answers we're ever likely to need or want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by buad hai View Post
    So, Bobcock, what's your opinion of the turban vents, then? Under what circumstances are they worthwhile installing?

    Bud, you would have to ask Macha that as not many of us wear them

    as for turbine vents, they do work and they are free to run

    the best thing is proper insulation in the roof, so that the suns heat does not get in much, and some ventilation (such as a vent) that lets any heated air escape
    I have reported your post

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy
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    So, Bobcock, what's your opinion of the turban vents, then? Under what circumstances are they worthwhile installing?

    Bud, you would have to ask Macha that as not many of us wear them
    Boy, I'm getting old, aren't I? I notice that more and more I type homonyms instead of the word I wanted. Is that the sign of some sort of tumor or mental disorder?

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    Quote Originally Posted by peterpan View Post
    On yer Bruce.

    Well this topics almost done, Lucky dogs pissed off, because there are too many words with more than 5 letters in them so he doesn't understand most of it.
    that is sad, poor old boy Luckydog

    as for heat and ceilings, I have good roof insulation and vents at each end of my high roof. It works very well and there is no need for spinning silver uglies

    in my house in the old city of CM, there is no insulation and the rooms just heat up and up, even with windows wide open.

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    ^ Thats my conclusion to Dr A. I have tried to quantify some of the variables but not too much heat here lately.
    Around 12 it was 30 Deg ambient.
    31 deg inside the house.
    Exterior Roof temp was 42 Deg and ceiling 34.
    The minor transmission there was appeared to be radiated down through the ceiling, which is what you would expect.
    When we get a hotter day will get some more temps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy
    I have good roof insulation
    Under the roof or over the ceiling?

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    If you look around at traditional Thai houses, they often have double roofs that let any heat escape. That is the best way to keep cool, plus a nice fan

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    Quote Originally Posted by peterpan
    When we get a hotter day will get some more temps.
    I'll do the same. My roof just has that silver reflective paper under the roof tiles and vents in the soffits. Inside I usually get one or two degrees over ambient during the hotter days. I'm thinking of just putting passive vents in the gables.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buad hai View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy
    I have good roof insulation
    Under the roof or over the ceiling?
    yes, both at once

    well, my ceiling is actually boarded to the roof struts, so I have high peaked rooms

    the insulation is the silver rolled stuff (made by the Chang company) put onto the struts before the tiles. Even better would have been to clad the ceilings first, put in some fibreglass to fill the space, then the silver foil then the tiles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buad hai View Post

    Boy, I'm getting old, aren't I? I notice that more and more I type homonyms instead of the word I wanted. Is that the sign of some sort of tumor or mental disorder?

    no, we all get those strange feelings now and then. Homonyms are just like us, so dont worry

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    Quote Originally Posted by buad hai
    I'll do the same. My roof just has that silver reflective paper under the roof tiles and vents in the soffits. Inside I usually get one or two degrees over ambient during the hotter days. I'm thinking of just putting passive vents in the gables.
    I have the same. Coolroof, (from Homemart) reflective foil under the tiles and passive ventilation under the eaves. Works well for me but don't ask me to give you the thermal formula. Also have 1.5 meter eave overhang so cuts down on direct sun on walls. Once the garden is done will have foliage along the walls to further cut down direct sunlight.

    Would finish garden sooner if a certain individual was to come up and help with the design.
    "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect,"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton
    Would finish garden sooner if a certain individual was to come up and help with the design.
    Gulp....

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    Quote Originally Posted by buad hai
    Gulp....
    Yep..all the beer you can drink as well.

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    Originally Posted by DrAndy
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    So, Bobcock, what's your opinion of the turban vents, then? Under what circumstances are they worthwhile installing?

    Bud, you would have to ask Macha that as not many of us wear them
    Can you put a spinning fan in a turban? Wouldn't the bloke's hair stand up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce
    Can you put a spinning fan in a turban? Wouldn't the bloke's hair stand up?
    Common practice with the whirling dervish.

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    Does this explain levitation? It's solar-powered.

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    Again I am the dumb butt.

    If we talk about the roof, and keeping the house cooler, that is cool...

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    Eureka! Designed a mini fan that fits on the top of a Motorcycle Helmet!
    250bht each to TD members.......Sorry, only two per person.

    WOT? "Oh ye of little faith"........

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    Would this be like a vertical takeoff ...hat?

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    This thread took a new relevance last night.
    I was sitting at our usual drinking hole last night and the BBQ chicken man was setting up his newly purchased smoke hood.
    Now this guy does good chicken and makes some real dosh from it, always a que of hungry customers but he was getting pissed off at the amount of smoke coming out his chicken grill.
    It burns his eyes and he won't live to the normal chicken man retirement age. So he spent some of his wealth on a new stainless steel chicken grill hood.
    Nice piece of work it was, length of his 1200 mm grill inverted V shape with a 50mm out let pipe on the top about 1 Mtr long. this was intended to duct the smoke away above his head.

    Good so far, but when he fired up his Charcoal BBQ, almost nothing went up the spout, it all just spilled out the sides further exasperating the smoke problem. He had sort of forgotten that a 1200 mm BBQ pit is going to generate way more heat than you will ever get out of a puny 50mm Pipe and as the pipe was 1M long the friction losses meant that the heat and smoke found a far easier path than trying to go up a small pipe.
    After an hour of struggling thru a haze of smoke he pushed the whole apparatus over onto the ground.
    Life is tough as Chicken Man.

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    He needed a spinning fan on top!

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    Quote Originally Posted by peterpan View Post
    This thread took a new relevance last night.
    I was sitting at our usual drinking hole last night and the BBQ chicken man was setting up his newly purchased smoke hood.
    Now this guy does good chicken and makes some real dosh from it, always a que of hungry customers but he was getting pissed off at the amount of smoke coming out his chicken grill.
    It burns his eyes and he won't live to the normal chicken man retirement age. So he spent some of his wealth on a new stainless steel chicken grill hood.
    Nice piece of work it was, length of his 1200 mm grill inverted V shape with a 50mm out let pipe on the top about 1 Mtr long. this was intended to duct the smoke away above his head.

    Good so far, but when he fired up his Charcoal BBQ, almost nothing went up the spout, it all just spilled out the sides further exasperating the smoke problem. He had sort of forgotten that a 1200 mm BBQ pit is going to generate way more heat than you will ever get out of a puny 50mm Pipe and as the pipe was 1M long the friction losses meant that the heat and smoke found a far easier path than trying to go up a small pipe.
    After an hour of struggling thru a haze of smoke he pushed the whole apparatus over onto the ground.
    Life is tough as Chicken Man.
    Shame for him they don't make 50mm roof extractor fans,

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    OK, after days of rain we have a nice, hot, sunny day here in Korat.

    About half an hour ago I put sensor in the attic and another outdoors in the shade. Right now at 1:50 PM ambient is 32, indoors is also 32 and attic is 40 and rising.

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