Thread: It's Too Hot . What To Do ?

Originally Posted by koman

The roof is not such an easy thing to fix because it looks like there is no attic space to insulate. and no space to provide adequate air flow to vent the heat out

One of my houses in UK had a fully glazed conservatory an as it's south facing. Unbearable in summer. I installed 4 automated roof vent which open as soon as the sun gets on it and closes when it gets cooler. DIY job if you can sort the materials.
Put some of those in your tin roof and the hot air will have somewhere to go and little or no maint. They can still be locked off if you want the house to remain secure when you are out.

Insullated roof, man....or knock the whole thing down and start again

I keep saying I'm listening so OK .... scrap the internal Q-Cons .

I wish however you'd stop insulting Missy's work .



She had this .......




...... except there was corrugated tin on the roof .

A REAL oven !!!!!

And now she has this .......




All of it simply followed the roof line that was originally there .
And it's NOT my design .
Just my Debit Card .

But anybody can surely see it's much better and if the bleeding " family " thing hadn't come into it maybe she would have had a more pleasing result from my ££££££.

But ............

The roof stays . The walls stay . Extractor fans needed . More ventilation needed . Slats will go onto that wall with a gap between them .
And a shade of some sort will also go in place if the shit work up on the shit roof will carry the weight .

Thank you everyone .

SINCERELY .

End of topic .



Wasp

^

Mate, you need to live like a white man, just sort the shit out. Ain't that hard.

Christ, no way would I'd be sweating my arse off.

We are not Thai.

Hey man, check out post #8.

Totally makes sense

Thanks Boon Mee.

But that will only come much later .

Meanwhile .... I thought I had reached the end of this topic but I have one more question .

I troop out tomorrow and buy a bloody great fantastic extractor fan to get some air flowing through .
Do I put this fan on the wall that's getting all the sun or do I put it well away on the opposite wall ?

Please ?



Wasp

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Living in the sticks is for people who have no choice, or who are frazzled oddities halfway to pixiedom.

There's a few answers here that I've only just found .
This one from Seekingasylum , chassamui and a long one from Terry .

I do indeed live a bit out in the sticks but I like that . I couldn't live in all the Bangkok or Pattaya crap ... or even Korat .
20 miles outside Korat is just fine .
Partly it's a finance thing and nothing halfway to pixiedom !

Terry ..... I'm doing 3 of the things on your list .
The rest if I come back .



Wasp

Lovely

Anyway paint it white, put a whirly thing in the roof, and stop tossing about.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Lovely

Anyway paint it white, put a whirly thing in the roof, and stop tossing about.

Got that right!

Originally Posted by Wasp

Terry ..... I'm doing 3 of the things on your list .

You've stuffed up big time there.

Originally Posted by Wasp

The rest if I come back .

Urm, whats that mean ?

Are you thinking of flouncing from Thailand.


Don't know your story, sorry.

^ Terry, he's only a tourist in Thailand. He'll be back in England before long. He's not cut out for Thailand.

^ ^

Jesus,

If he comes back to Issan in April after being in Dodger land he will fokin die.

Good luck with that WASP.

Originally Posted by koman

He's looking for a practical and affordable solution to a discomfort problem; not to rebuild the place

Yes Koman .

Thank you .

Tell me please .... I buy a big extractor tomorrow for the room .

Do I install it in the wall that's getting all the sunshine or do I put it as far away from that wall as possible ?



Wasp

It doesn't fuxkimg matter what he does, he'll still have to cope with an early evening ambient temperature of 30 c and, in the not too distant future, 80-95% humidity. It'll still boil his gonads even if he can devise a " cool house " which is nothing more than a fucking pipe dream.

Whack in two air cons, ceiling fans if he has the height and enjoy the benefits of EGAT.

Thailand is intolerable for most white folk most of the year without air con unless there is a prospect of wafting breezes.

He'll just go crazy like all the boonie dwellers and probably end up fighting " Miss Kitty " and that'll be the end of that.

An extractor fan in a wall is not really going to help as you are only drawing in hot air to replace hot air.

I take it all back. Build a shield wall out of teak logs 2 stories tall. Arrange a lattice between the log uprights and grow a creeper of some sort. This will shade the walls and if you included a fishpond, create a micro climate between the sun and you.

And it will hide the ugly building.

What the hell are you doing with an extractor fan? It has no cooling property and can do fuck all to reduce the prevailing ambient temperature.

If they were so fuxkimg effective at reducing temperature then why the fuxk does no one have them in the home? Jesus, I've read some shit written by dopey farang but this has to take the biscuit.

Err, they use extractor fans to clear smoke and shitty fumes from internal spaces like smoking rooms and commercial kitchens.

Absolute hoot!

Originally Posted by Wasp

Do I install it in the wall that's getting all the sunshine or do I put it as far away from that wall as possible ?

Wasp, if buying a fan, buy one on a stand, then you are free to place it anywhere, as it is needed.

Considering he does not live there all the time he could bang in a quality Aircon and just bite the bullet on the power bill.

After all, power is a lot cheaper here than Dodger land.

Its either that or die of heat stroke.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Lovely

Anyway paint it white, put a whirly thing in the roof, and stop tossing about.

Got that right!

Reminds of the Civil Defence crap written years ago about what you should do in the event of an imminent nuclear detonation:

Paint yourself white, and the windows, bend over grasping behind both knees, stick you head between your legs and kiss your ass goodbye.

Painting your walls white will of course do the trick which is why they do it all over Thailand it's so fucking miraculous.

And of course white cars are cooler than black cars in the heat, which of course is total bollocks too.

Originally Posted by Wasp

Originally Posted by koman

He's looking for a practical and affordable solution to a discomfort problem; not to rebuild the place

Yes Koman .

Thank you .

Tell me please .... I buy a big extractor tomorrow for the room .

Do I install it in the wall that's getting all the sunshine or do I put it as far away from that wall as possible ?



Wasp

I was referring to extraction of air from the roof space...assuming you have some roof space...

If you have enough of an air gap between the roof surface and the ceiling, I would attempt to place some kind of reflective insulation barrier above the ceiling panels and then install extractor fan(s) to suck the hot air out of the roof space. You would need vents to allow cooler air to be drawn in as the hot air gets vented out. The more air space up there the better....hence the comments about raising the roof....which technically would be a good thing to do, but it's not very realistic under the circumstances.

I'm not sure if installing an extractor fan in your wall will do much. A bit of cross ventilation from window openings would probably do just as well.

Getting the walls into the shade is number one priority...but I can guarantee you that a well placed AC unit will do more than all the rest combined.....and most importantly it will extract the excess moisture out of the air when the humidity level goes way up...which it will. All these other remedies will help keep your electric bill down by helping the AC to not work so hard, but none of them will do a thing to stop you sweating your cobblers off in April, May, June... whereas the AC will do just that.....

Bear in mind that different people have very different tolerance levels for heat and humidity. Some people can take it just fine, others get miserable and very uncomfortable. Thais thrive in it... For me, heat is not a problem if its a dry desert type of heat, but humidity is a killer. I just sweat and drip day and night, so I'm the AC industries most enthusiastic supporter.

You will have to be your own judge on where your comfort level is. A less expensive tool that helps is a de-humidifier if you can tolerate the high temps but not the moisture content.

Originally Posted by luckyjim

We ran shade cloth down one side of our house ( the neighbours side, who we don't like; fuk e'm they can look at it) and it dropped the temp by a couple of degrees.

IMHO it depends how much money you want to spend.

Unlimited funds = knock it down and rebuild. At least the top half. It's not attractive.

Insulation is relatively cheap and easy to install. Do the roof space.

Install a whirly gig thingy, you know one of those extractor things. They make a big difference.

Whilst you say it's the walls that are the problem I think the roof space is the biggest problem.
As previously mentioned by others, far more knowledgeable than me, evacuating the heat is what it's all about.

I think building new walls, interior or exterior, is a nonsense.

Me, I'd take off the top floor and rebuild. I reckon it'd be cheaper, you can reuse some of the materials, easier, and cleaner all round.

BUT

Don't use the dimwit cousin. You have to put your foot down on that.

Seriously.

If you don't sort that out her extended family are going to take you to the cleaners.

Good luck

Yeah, JJ.....I believe most would be in agreement with these aspects.
Design and build the house that is practical and can be comfortable.

....and never ever involve family/extended family with any housing/property projects that one might have, less taking ideas towards designs and whatnot.

Misskit's horizontal slat screening solution will help a lot along with a big ass air con unit. Given the existing construction, that's your best bet.