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    Network Problems

    Here's a question for the tech savvy lot.
    I am trying to set up my pc with an IP address outside of the DHCP assigned addresses provided by the router (not the ISP)

    Here's what I tried to do:

    The router is running on IP address 192.168.2.1 - it is set up as DHCP enabled, as my son connects using his PSP and a wireless PC.

    The router has a block of addresses that it dishes out, these are 192.168.2 - 192.168.2.100

    The router obtains it's connection on TOT by accepting the automatically assigned TOT ISP address and DNS.

    What I tried to do was to take my own PC out of this loop and assign it a fixed IP, just outside of the routers pool group. i.e. 192.168.2.101

    So that the IP is always the same (sometimes I find my machine is assigned 192.168.2.2 or 192.168.2.3)

    This gives me a problem as I want to open some specific ports ONLY on my machine and not on my sons. But the IP address cannot be locked (Belkin N series)

    I setup the Windows TCP settings from obtain address automatically to fixed 192.168.2.101, my IP

    I use the same subnet mask 255....... and then set the default gateway and DNS

    To that of the router, 192.168.2.1

    I then set all my virtual server settings to the 192.168.2.101 and as soon as I reboot the router, I connect to DSL and internet, all lights are green all the router SNR etc. is as before, but I get redirected to the TOT page saying my login username or password is incorrect.

    If I re enter them no matter how many times, it keeps directing me here.

    Reset everything to as was, and within 20 minutes the thing is working again!

    Any ideas?

    All I want is for my kid to be able to log on and obtain an automatic address from the router pool, and me to be able to log on from a fixed IP from outside of the routers automatic address pool.


    UPDATE! I seem to be able to get it to work OK if I disable the router DHCP and manually assign an address to each connection, but I was hoping to be able to have a pool of addresses that were automatically assigned, and a single address that I kept for my machine, as far as what I have read on the internet this seems to be possible, but I am not sure what I am doing wrong.
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    give us a print screen of your port forwarding efforts on your router

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    give us a print screen of your port forwarding efforts on your router
    I'll update you on the update!

    Basically none of it worked, when it renewed the IP address it ended back up at the TOT page, I then set everything back to automatic, and have spent the last hour reinstalling the LAN, which could not be "repaired" using the network connections shit in windows, in the end, I have had to reset the router back to factory settings! (you couldn't log into the router and windows was giving my machine a 169.xxx.xxx.xxx address, which it would not update or renew..it just kept hanging, (I Think something hung with the router - but power off and on did not cure it, the only thing I was able to was to uninstall the LAN then reset the router)

    Unbelievable, this whole thing just crashed!

    I have not enabled the port forwarding as yet, as I am busy trying to get my kids machine online.

    What did surprise me was I just set his computer up with that 128 bit wireless encryption 128BIT WEP, and within 2 minutes his 10 year old mate was on the network with a wireless notebook without me giving them the key!!! what sort of security is that? How the hell did they find the key???

    So I am back at the original settings I had, DHCP given out by the router, bugger!

    There isn't really port forwarding as such on the Belkin, it is like a "Virtual Server," all you do is type in the name...bit torrent for example and then open the port, which is unique for each IP address, for example I open port 30000 and assign i to my machine which was 192.168.2.2, the problem is, if I cannot lock this IP address, it could change to 192.168.2.3 depending when someone else logs on.

    That was why I wanted to take it out of the DHCP address pool.

    But something is ballsing it up.
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    To be honest, the bit torrent is working as well as it did without any need for this port forwarding shit... it's green for go so maybe I don't need it anyway?

    It's the dishing out and assigning of the local IP's that has me stumped!

    What actually pissed me off was, I thought because of all the resetting of the router I had done something that caused TOT to block my account, I telephoned them and they said they would have to wait for an engineer as "many areas are currently down"

    Now this was obvious BULLSHIT as the ADSL and the Internet lights on the router were both green, all of the SNR/ attenuation settings etc. were fine.

    After a bit of a bugger around it worked again, then I went and redid what caused the problem and lo and behold, I got the sqame problem I had before...seems TOT are trained to lie! There was nothing wrong with the service, just something I did upset the connection.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Missismiggins
    128BIT WEP,
    is as secure as an open AP to some one with the right software.

    post a link to the manual or give us some screen grabs so we can tell you where you are going wrong.

    though if you want to stick to DHCP , set the lease time to maximum
    If you torture data for enough time , you can get it to say what you want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Missismiggins
    128BIT WEP,
    is as secure as an open AP to some one with the right software.

    post a link to the manual or give us some screen grabs so we can tell you where you are going wrong.

    though if you want to stick to DHCP , set the lease time to maximum
    I found out the problem... I copied the encryption key...the loads of hex shit... put it on my kids PC, then put the paper in my drawer...the kid went to the drawer, found the paper and put the encryption key on his mates laptop!

    I was going to bollock him as his mates machine has more viruses than a Pattaya whore, but I guess he got 10/10 for initiative!

    I changed it again to this WPA/WAA2-Personal/PRX

    WPA-PSK+WPA2-PSK + Obscure PSK...maybe enough to prevent an 8 year old hacking the system!!!

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