Thread: What is the Best Brand of Laptop out there?

^ I have and it's appaling.

Had it running on my hackintosh for a couple of months. It was a load of toss. Userfriendliness gone mad. Making it not user friendly.

That stupid bar thing at the bottom hiding the open applications all the time.

load of balls it is.

I have too. The new aluminium iBook. Lovely machine it is, and luckily XP works on it nicely.

Originally Posted by DaffyDuck

disregarding the uninformed spoutings of Baldrick.

get a mac and enjoy your ilife secure in the knowledge that your chosen machine is not vulnerable to even user stupidity - you will be the darling of the in crowd in no time

The best specifications and prices are now to be found with the Lenovo machines. These are now being promoted in the UK and are made by IBM.

Originally Posted by can123

The best specifications and prices are now to be found with the Lenovo machines. These are now being promoted in the UK and are made by IBM.

oh dear

as Harry said, have a look at Amazon, choose the machine then have a look elsewhere for a better deal, if you can

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

No they aren't - IBM sold it's PC business to Lenovo in 2005, and IBM keep a stake of (I think) less than 5%.

Read this and acknowledge that you do not know everything there is to know about everything. However one looks at it, Lenovo = IBM. No, go back to your knitting, you miserable old sod !

IBM & Lenovo - United Kingdom

Originally Posted by mrsquirrel

Had it running on my hackintosh for a couple of months. It was a load of toss. Userfriendliness gone mad. Making it not user friendly. That stupid bar thing at the bottom hiding the open applications all the time. load of balls it is.

I always laugh when some people whinge about some program or other

the old adage "a bad workman blames his tools" is just as apt nowadays

Originally Posted by DrAndy

oh dear

as Harry said, have a look at Amazon, choose the machine then have a look elsewhere for a better deal, if you can

And, you are dull enough to believe everything Harry says ? What a shame ! Read and weep.
IBM & Lenovo - United Kingdom

Originally Posted by DrAndy

they continue to have an ALLIANCE, which in business terms doesn't mean much unless they both like the arrangement

Don't talk such bloody nonsense !

I have 2 Acers , the newest one is an Aspire 5552 and they're good (touch wood). I had a Toshiba before that, which had to have the motherboard replaced after 14 months. I find the Acer is an better machine. Hope this helps you a bit. Good luck

The thread is from 2009 so it just might be the OP is in the market again....

If you don't like mac's then look at the new ultrabooks that are finally out now. My choice is the Lenovo U300s with i7 processor and 256 SSD drive.

i7 might run hot and cause problems in a Laptop?

I'd be happy to have an i7 in a desktop with nice space and fans inside.

I used to like IBM products, so I might consider a Lennova next time I buy.

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

i7 might run hot and cause problems in a Laptop?

I have a high end Dell at work for CAD duties running an i7 (2500k) it does not run hot.

It's running ok, not hot at all. Can have it in your lap against your skin for hours on end without feeling hot or burning.

I looked into all of the new ultrabooks and went with Lenovo mainly due the i7 and it also felt very good as IBM/Lenovo's usually do.

And i love the SSD drive, boots up in less than 10 seconds. No more waiting windows and applications to load.

Originally Posted by can123

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

No they aren't - IBM sold it's PC business to Lenovo in 2005, and IBM keep a stake of (I think) less than 5%.

Read this and acknowledge that you do not know everything there is to know about everything. However one looks at it, Lenovo = IBM. No, go back to your knitting, you miserable old sod !

IBM & Lenovo - United Kingdom

Which bit am I missing. From your own link, which you clearly don't understand:

Lenovo has the leading position in the fastest growing market in the world. Their acquisition of IBM's PC business makes them the third largest PC supplier in the world.

Thicko!

Here's a nice Sager gaming laptop spec'd out to (the equivalent of) ~300K:

^^ Oh, and the reasons IBM got out of the PC business was because they were doing their bollocks on it. Despite inventing the PC, they made the very foolish mistake of making the specs open to all, expecting to clean up on the software market.

Their plans in that direction went down the toilet when Windows pissed all over OS/2.

Plus their ludicrous and suicidal persistence in trying to make Microchannel architecture an industry standard cost them dear, also.

Are you keeping up?

^

Grow up ! Lenovo = IBM now. Alternatively, IBM = Lenovo. They are first rate machines as one would expect. You seem to think that you are in some way more clever than others by virtue of your number of post here. You clearly do not know much about computers.

Are you retarded or something?

Lenovo Group Limited (SEHK: 0992) is a Chinese multinational information technology and electronics company co-headquartered in Beijing, Singapore and Morrisville, United States. Its products include personal computers, workstations, servers, electronic storage, IT management software, and other related products and services. Lenovo was founded in Beijing in 1984 and incorporated in Hong Kong in 1988 under its previous name, Legend.

Lenovo is the world's second-largest PC vendor by 2011 market share (after Hewlett-Packard) and markets the ThinkPad line of notebook computers and the ThinkCentre line of desktops. These brands became part of Lenovo's offerings after its 2005 acquisition of IBM's personal computer business. Lenovo also sells the IdeaPad line of notebook computers. Lenovo markets its products directly to consumers, small to medium size businesses, and large enterprises, as well as through online sales, company-owned stores, chain retailers, and major technology distributors and vendors.

Lenovo is listed on the Hong Kong Stock Exchange.

Now please, tell me which bit of that rather simple fucking English that you don't understand?

And from only last year:

Lenovo chiefs chortle over decision to buy IBM's PC biz


Fat numbers from reorg'd Big Blue boxes By Paul Kunert • Get more from this author
Posted in Business, 18th August 2011 13:27 GMT

IBM may think it was a grand plan to exit the PC game by flogging its biz to Lenovo, but the Chinese vendor does not concur, as its Q1 sales rises show.
The concerted turnaround efforts continued for the seventh consecutive quarter since Lenovo dumped former CEO Bill Amelio, with sales up 15 per cent to $5.9bn and operating profits rising 51 per cent to $123m.

It seems there is life yet in the traditional boxes. It's true that the margins are small in comparison to those of IBM – which explains Big Blue's decision to offload the PC division – but Lenovo execs clearly feel vindicated by the numbers.

"Since we adjusted our leadership team in early 2009, our business continues to climb and everything has been executed well according to our original plans," said Lenovo chairman Liu Chuanzhi.
There are reasons for the self-congratulation though. Lenovo pushed up PC shipments more than 23 per cent during the quarter as the global market moved up 2.7 per cent – the ninth consecutive quarter it outgrew the market.
Big Blue last week celebrated the 30-year anniversary of the PC but one of its engineers behind the original design reckoned systems have seen their best days and are "going the way of the vacuum tube, typewriter, vinyl record..."
Chuanzhi disagrees: "Our results show that Lenovo's acquisition of the IBM PC business has become a success. In future quarters, you will see clearly that we will take what we've learned from this acquisition and apply that knowledge towards our joint venture with NEC in Japan and our acquisition of Medion in Germany."
Part of the reasons for Lenovo's surge is that it learned to love the channel, restructured to minimise direct sales conflict with resellers, and upped rebates to feature more on dealers' balance sheets.
China represented $2.8bn worth of sales for Lenovo in Q1, up 23.4 per cent; in the emerging market sales were $1bn; and it achieved $2.1bn in sales in mature markets, despite a 9.4 per cent slide in shipments during the quarter.
But the firm still has one eye fixed on the ongoing economic uncertainty despite the return to growth of the global PC market, and did not provide a Q2 forecast.
"Challenges to worldwide PC demand remain - such as the pace of global economic recovery and the ongoing debt crisis in Western Europe," Lenovo said. ®

Let me show you that again, in the vague hope it might sink in:

IBM may think it was a grand plan to exit the PC game by flogging its biz to Lenovo, but the Chinese vendor does not concur

Light bulb coming on yet?

Originally Posted by can123

Originally Posted by DrAndy

they continue to have an ALLIANCE, which in business terms doesn't mean much unless they both like the arrangement

Don't talk such bloody nonsense !

right...

About Lenovo

Lenovo creates and builds exceptionally engineered personal technology, but we are much more than a tech company. We are defining a new way of doing things as a next generation global company. That means we are years ahead of the game in terms of understanding what it will take to win 5, 10 years from now.
Formed by Lenovo Group’s acquisition of the former IBM Personal Computing Division, Lenovo builds on its dominant position in China to grow globally. The expansion from East to West – such as by introducing our newest products in China and then spreading across the globe – is a new way of viewing the world, one we believe will be the way of the future.
That focus on the future is based on a strong history of success that is driving results today. Long the leader in China, Lenovo is growing rapidly and winning market share in all parts of the world. This balanced growth is what has made Lenovo the fastest growing major PC company and enabled us to consistently grow faster than the market.
Achieving optimal balance in all that we do is Lenovo’s operating philosophy. This mindset encompasses every aspect of Lenovo’s business, from balancing leadership with consensus-building, to valuing both short- and long-term thinking. As a result, we have created a balanced business model and strategy that take maximum advantage of profit and investment across both core and new businesses. The result is balanced performance and market share growth across all regions, customer segments, products and business models.


Our mission is to become one of the world’s great personal technology companies. We aspire to achieve this objective by leading in three key areas:

• Personal Computers: Lead in PCs and be respected for our product innovation and quality.
• Convergence: Lead the industry with an ecosystem of devices, services, applications and content for people to seamlessly connect to people and web content.
• Culture: Become recognized as one of the best, most trusted and most well-respected companies to work for and do business with.

Our Values

At Lenovo we view our culture as a critical asset as important as an effective business model. We call our culture the Lenovo Way, and at its most basic, that culture is reflected in the statement: We do what we say and own what we do.


Our values serve as the foundation of our company and define who we are and how we work. Principal among them are:

• Serving Customers
• Trust and Integrity
• Teamwork Across Cultures
• Innovation and Entrepreneurial Spirit

Our Heritage

Lenovo came about as the result of the merger of two of the most storied companies in technology and business: Legend Holdings in China and IBM’s Personal Computing Division in the United States. The merger was heralded as a watershed event in global business with the potential for integrating two disparate cultures, languages, processes and markets.
As a result, Lenovo embodies the unique market possibilities in combining the best of East and West -- joining North American and China-based technology players in the creation of a unified global PC leader with growing market positions in developed and emerging markets alike. With more than $16 billion in annual revenue, Lenovo’s market strength spans not only market geographies but also the world’s consumer and business PC markets.
A Worldwide Leader

Lenovo is one of the world’s largest makers of personal computers and makes the world's most innovative PCs, including the renowned ThinkPad® notebook as well as products carrying the ThinkCentre®, ThinkStation®, ThinkServer®, IdeaCentre® and IdeaPad® sub-brands.
Today, Lenovo is a global corporation with significant operations on six continents and operating in more than 60 countries and selling products in 160. Everyone at Lenovo takes great pride in our ability to attract top talent from diverse backgrounds and from around the world. We view our differences and diversity as a source of strength in building a collaborative culture that helps us achieve our goals.
We have no world headquarters and, instead, have put in place a distributed management structure that places operational hubs in centers of excellence around the world integrating this talented, diverse group into a cohesive Next Generation company.
Our multicultural management team is free to convene wherever and whenever it makes the most sense. Lenovo has operations hubs in Beijing, Raleigh, NC, and Paris, a marketing hub in Bangalore, India, and major research centers in Yokohama, Japan; Beijing, Shanghai and Shenzhen, China; and Raleigh, North Carolina.
The company employs more than 23,000 people worldwide, including 1,700 designers, scientists and engineers, representing a broad collection of nationalities and languages but at the same time working with one unified language and vision: to build the world’s most exceptionally engineered personal computers.
Two Roads to Creating a PC Powerhouse

In 1981, IBM launched its Personal Computing Division which literally invented personal computing with such innovations as the first laptop computer, the precursor to the ThinkPad notebook, synonymous with innovation and quality.
In 1984, Legend Holdings was founded in China with just 11 computer scientists and $25,000 in cash, with the idea of delivering information technology more rapidly to consumers and businesses in China.
In 2003, Legend began marketing its products under the Lenovo brand, melding the "Le" from Legend with "novo," the Latin word for "new." It officially changed its company name from Legend to Lenovo a year later.
In 2005, Lenovo Group’s acquisition of IBM’s PC division essentially combined the market strength of Lenovo in China and elsewhere in Asia among consumers with IBM’s leadership position in Europe and North America among business PC users.
In 2007, Lenovo launches the IdeaPad line of consumer-branded PC products and drops the use of the IBM logo on all its products two years ahead of schedule.

note the last sentence

bloody nonsense is your domain, Can't123

Originally Posted by Thai Pom

I am an Acer man, great aftersales service as well should you need it ( seacon square )

Thai seem to prefer Acer so service is better.