Dead computer

**lom** · 03-06-2008, 09:59 AM

That's it then Nicka, buy an ASUS motherboard with an AMD cpu.

**lom** · 03-06-2008, 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

what's AMD?

American MicroDevices, manufacturer of Intel compatible cpu's and consequently a competitor to Intel.

**Butterfly** · 03-06-2008, 10:03 AM

^^ LOL good one

will cost you one red

**ChiangMai noon** · 03-06-2008, 10:03 AM

should we simply do everything that butterfly recommends not doing?

**NickA** · 03-06-2008, 10:11 AM

I'm thinking of going with intel, but I'll go and check out the difference in prices. I'll replace the CPU even if it isn't burnt out as my current one is only an Athlon XP2600.

I might pop to Tawanna now and see what I can find.

**kingwilly** · 03-06-2008, 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

should we simply do everything that butterfly recommends not doing?

is your name scampy?

**lom** · 03-06-2008, 10:17 AM

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

should we simply do everything that butterfly recommends not doing?

Take his recommendations with a pinch of salt.
I'm about to buy a jeep but wont consider Fords.
Had a Ford Scorpio 20 years ago and it was a miserable car..

**mrsquirrel** · 03-06-2008, 10:56 AM

The latest AMD's are behind Intel on the technology front but they are very good value for money.

I would happily have an AMD again. Currenty my two notebooks are Intel.

NickA needs to look at mother board, PSU, memory, graphics card and PSU - need to make sure it has enough juice to run evrything.
Have you got a decent heatsink? I'm amazed by the size of some of the current ones, but they do their job.

**Marmite the Dog** · 03-06-2008, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by NickA

But at the moment I would just like some recommendations for motherboard + CPU in the 5,000 and less range.

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

I've got an Intel E8200. Any E8*** will do you. They run super cool, are quick and good value.

There really isn't any point in looking at anything else at the moment.

**mrsquirrel** · 03-06-2008, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

There really isn't any point in looking at anything else at the moment.

Toss

All depends what you are doing.

You can overclock a Core 2 faster than a Quad core can run.

How many programs actually make use of a quad core?

**Marmite the Dog** · 03-06-2008, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by mrsquirrel

You can overclock a Core 2 faster

Was I recommending a quad core or a duo?

Nick is looking for a good, reliable and affordable option, hence my recommendation, because it's the best budget option.

**mrsquirrel** · 03-06-2008, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Was I recommending a quad core or a duo? Nick is looking for a good, reliable and affordable option, hence my recommendation, because it's the best budget option.

Sorry.

Misread it.

**NickA** · 03-06-2008, 02:25 PM

I bought an asus motherboard and intel chip (sorry can't remember numbers). New board has only got a PCI graphics slot, so i had to get a new XFX graphics card too. Total was just over 6,000 baht.

Just realised that my old ram won't fit the new slots, so will have to go and but some tomorrow.

**Butterfly** · 03-06-2008, 02:56 PM

in the memory of BH, can I recommend you buying a Mac instead ?

**dirtydog** · 03-06-2008, 02:58 PM

First thing you should do is take the old pc apart, clean all the brass contacts with a rubber, then put it back together, 9 times out of 10 it will work.

**Marmite the Dog** · 03-06-2008, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by NickA

Just realised that my old ram won't fit the new slots, so will have to go and but some tomorrow.

New RAM is as cheap as chips.

I bought some the other day for my notebook. Did it fit? Did it fuck!

**ChiangMai noon** · 03-06-2008, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

New RAM is as cheap as chips.

not that cheap.

it's over 2000 baht for a gig isn't it?

**CharleyFarley** · 03-06-2008, 03:55 PM

My crt monitor stopped working last month , so thinking it was full of dust, I and friends spent hours trying to get the plasticky back cover off, only 2 screws but still couldn't budge it.

Banged it about in a temper ,reconnected it and it worked again.

So now I unplug just the monitor when its hot, just a simple overheating problem.

DD's recommendation is good.

**Marmite the Dog** · 03-06-2008, 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

it's over 2000 baht for a gig isn't it?

I just bought a 1 gig laptop chip for 750 Baht. Ok, so it was the wrong one, but it's still cheap. You get 2 Gig packs now for next to nothing.

**mrsquirrel** · 03-06-2008, 04:58 PM

2GB about 30 dollars

Can buy name brand paired sets for that

Corsair

**dirtydog** · 03-06-2008, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

I just bought a 1 gig laptop chip for 750 Baht. Ok, so it was the wrong one, but it's still cheap.

I have been offered a kilo of gold for 100,000baht, it's fake gold but still cheap

**NickA** · 03-06-2008, 07:15 PM

Well, I'm back.....

If my computer had been reasonably new it might have been worth trying to fix it, but I was pretty much in need of an upgrade anyway, so it was a good excuse.

now, what do these dual core things do and how do you set them up in linux????

**friscofrankie** · 03-06-2008, 08:14 PM

Linux should load the SMP module when it gets loaded. Both my Dual core installs just handled it in all hte distros I tried ( Gentoo, Mandrivia, Suse, Debian, Slackware and a couple others) You can see what the two processors are doing by running "top" when the screen loads shold be able to toggle between a averaged load and per proc load by hitting the "1" key.

Code:

top - 20:12:21 up 7 days,  8:01,  3 users,  load average: 0.59, 0.31, 0.22
Tasks: 185 total,   1 running, 183 sleeping,   0 stopped,   1 zombie
Cpu(s):  9.1%us,  3.3%sy,  0.0%ni, 79.7%id,  7.6%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.2%si,  0.0%st
Mem:    899912k total,   865516k used,    34396k free,     4944k buffers
Swap:  1951888k total,   844400k used,  1107488k free,   277736k cached

Code:

top - 20:12:58 up 7 days,  8:01,  3 users,  load average: 0.30, 0.27, 0.21
Tasks: 185 total,   2 running, 182 sleeping,   0 stopped,   1 zombie
Cpu0  :  0.7%us,  1.3%sy,  0.0%ni, 98.0%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
Cpu1  :  2.0%us,  1.3%sy,  0.0%ni, 96.7%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
Mem:    899912k total,   862820k used,    37092k free,     5060k buffers
Swap:  1951888k total,   844400k used,  1107488k free,   280296k cached

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

it's over 2000 baht for a gig isn't it

no much cheaper laptop was 750/GB and for my desktop even cheaper (can;t remember bought a few other things as well)

**Fabian** · 03-06-2008, 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

it's over 2000 baht for a gig isn't it?

I just bought a 1 gig laptop chip for 750 Baht. Ok, so it was the wrong one, but it's still cheap. You get 2 Gig packs now for next to nothing.

If it does not fit it is not cheap.

**mrsquirrel** · 04-06-2008, 04:35 AM

Originally Posted by friscofrankie

Linux should load the SMP module when it gets loaded. Both my Dual core installs just handled it in all hte distros I tried ( Gentoo, Mandrivia, Suse, Debian, Slackware and a couple others) You can see what the two processors are doing by running "top" when the screen loads shold be able to toggle between a averaged load and per proc load by hitting the "1" key. Code:

I had some issues with SuSE and the new Intel power management thingy. That happened after an automatic upgrade. Eventually fixed it with a reinstall rather than messing about.
Found that it wouldn't let the processor switch to running at low speed so it got very hot.

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