Thread: no telephone...what are my options.

Originally Posted by RandomChances

Will you pick up a wi-fi signal 500m from the shop

Should be possible.
I have read about someone getting G spec to go 800 metres unobstructed so with N spec 200 metres should be possible

Two pringles cans are all you need.

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People have got 3 miles point to point connections with these

Or maybe you should consider just buying LAN cable (cat5) and running it all the way to your house......it is about 10 bath pr metre aroun here....maybe cheaper if you buy 200 or 500 metres......then there is no problem with no signal due to bad weather and or other interference,and a wired network is quite more difficult to hack into.....


Claus

There is a limit on the length that you can have a cable before having to have a repeater.

Not sure what it is for cat5

Originally Posted by Claus31000

Or maybe you should consider just buying LAN cable (cat5) and running it all the way to your house.

from where?

^ Your shop that you are going to bribe.

^
can you explain in lay man's terms how such an arrangement might work and the practicalities involved.

I'll green you big.

^U plug one end of the cable into the ADSL modem in the shop. U plug the other end of the cable into your computer.

Squirrel is correct, there is a length/booster issue.

You would have a router at the shop.

Router would give you and the other machine an internal IP address and communicate with the Internet for you.

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It may well work though.

It's only one cable.

If you bought a decent router not some cheap POS and a good quality cat 5 you may well get away with the 200m distance.

You will have a lot of problems running it though since it will be ove rother peoples land.

Speed:

10 Mbps

Max Len:

500 Meters

Cable:

RG-58 type coax, 50 ohm impedance

Hmmmm

You could run a thin ethernet setup fairly cheaply.

Should get about 185 meters out of the run

A thick ethernet will do 500m.

Not sure on the cost of the routers though.

Yes, CAT5 (or CAT5e) Ethernet cables can be run outdoors to network computers between homes or other buildings. With their thin plastic casing, ordinary Ethernet cables will deteriorate quickly when exposed to the elements. For best results, outdoor Ethernet cables should be placed in a conduit and then buried under the ground about 15-20cm (6-8 inches) and at least that far away from power lines or other sources of electrical interference. PVC or other plastic pipe, installed with waterproofing, can work as a conduit. Ordinary CAT5 cable was not designed for outdoor uses, however; extreme temperatures and humidity will shorten the useful lifetime of such an outdoor network.
Preferably, special exterior or direct burial CAT5 cables should be used for outdoor runs instead of ordinary CAT5.

Direct burial CAT5 costs more, but it is designed specifically for outdoor use. Exterior-grade Ethernet cables are waterproof and thus do not require conduit. Both ordinary and direct burial CAT5 cables attract lighting strikes to some degree. Simply burying a cable underground does not lessen its affinity for lightning. Accordinly, CAT5 surge protectors should be installed as part of outdoor Ethernet networks to guard against lightning strikes.
A single Ethernet cable, whether indoor or outdoor, is only designed to function over a distance of about 100m (328 feet). Some networks operate successfully with Ethernet cables run 200m or more. When extended past the recommended limit of 100m, Ethernet reliability and performance may suffer, and results can vary from one cable to the next. Active hubs or other repeater devices can be installed with a series of CAT5 cables to greatly extend the range of an Ethernet outdoor network.

^
that sounds like the simplest solution to me.

the distance is no more than 60 metres or so.
I overestimated it at first.

^ 60 metres is a lot closer than 200m you fucking plonker.

You can easily run a cat 5 cable then.

Just need to think about the weather protection for it.

Good luck Cmn please wait for the wife to get back before you do anything

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You can get outdoor protected cat 5 cable. It's not cheap but it's available.

No idea if it's available in Thailand or not. Or what the equivalant is.

I would guestimate at 5k all in. for a router and cable.

Originally Posted by mrsquirrel

You can get outdoor protected cat 5 cable. It's not cheap but it's available.

You seem to have a much better grasp re the subject than I so your opinion on running phone line extension appreciated. Maybe I'm being to simplistic but seems a 60 meter run from the source to CMNs house might work with appropriate power boost and shielding. This would eliminate the need for the router and give CMN direct access to the line.

^That sounds like the best solution.

Only problem you would have then is that the quality of the line may not be as good.

If he doesn't need a phone and just requires internet then a decent router and cable setup would be more reliable.

Phone lines in Thailand aren't very good to start with and adding a splice off the line and boosting it may well just noise.

Also got to consider that his neighbour already has an router/modem on the line.

I don't think you can run two micro splitters on one phone line. I might be wrong though.

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

that sounds like the simplest solution to me.

No, I think fabian's idea was the simplest.

Thanks for all the help.

Obviously, i will have to get permission from the shop first, i expect this will be ok if I am willing to pay for the connection for both of us.

There'll be no problem getting permission from the owners of the land between our place and the shop, we get on very well.

I think I'll bring my work's computer expert up the house and see what he thinks is the best option.

Having sen that other thread about IP star, I'm not ruling that out yet either.

Originally Posted by mrsquirrel

I don't think you can run two micro splitters on one phone line. I might be wrong though.

Good point but worth checking out given benefits. If no good then LAN solution will work I reckon. 60 meter runs on phone lines are not unusual (condos, hotels etc.) so the big issue is having more than one internet connection on a single line.