How do you equal a £15000 cd player for sound?

[koogook]

simple a mac mini...............

[ChiangMai noon]

what?

[English Noodles]

Eh???

[Loombucket]

Would that be sound quality as measured on a spectrometer or the same as perceived by the listener. A lot would depend on the age of the listener and, to a certain extent, their sex. After boys reach a certain age, the ability to hear very high and very low sounds starts to decrease. It's slightly different for girls (as always), as they reach the ability to hear the complete range of available frequencies at an earlier age. That has a lot to do with why girls like to dance at all ages, whilst boys prefer to watch.

Let us forget, for the moment, that girls are much more fun to watch than boys and that most pub and club P.A.'s are not intended for serious listening. The human ear is tuned to a 1Khtz tone. Thus, armed with a matching set of ears, a set distance apart, one can pinpoint a sound of that frequency, from a distance and track it to its source. Girls are programmed with a different set of parameters to boys, which is why a baby cry will wake the Mother and not the Father. All of the above comments are 'broadly speaking', as there are allways instances that do not conform to this rule.

Getting back to the point, this old goat can rip a cd, convert it to MP3 and play a song on the active speaker set up, used by the computer, and it will still sound, to me, as it did when I bought the album, 25 years ago. It doesn't really, of course, but that's what my ears are telling me.

Sorry, this was not intended as a lesson, but your opening statement was a little sweeping. A more simple answer to the OP question, would have been to get the listener drunk.

[melvbot]

simple a mac mini...............

Ive heard a few high end audio systems and I can say quite categorically youre talking out of your arse.

[CharleyFarley]

What a bozo

[koogook]

ok i've kept you salivating long enough..........

I am indeed not a bozo or wrong (though i understand the subjectivity that this topic brings).......

I am however talking about computer audiophile systems, it has been widely spread through many audiophile forums that one can now get the perceived sound quality as that of the naim cds555 a 15000 £££££ cd player, and how?

Well i gave you one bit of kit already.......

The mac itself( from mac mini up) is important because it will copy (as would a pc) bit perfect the sound from your cd and is able to output as such through a digital, usb or firewire output at high resolution( for arguments sake it will output 24bit 172khz hi def audio tracks with he right sound card and for those ears less trained 24bit 92khz and down!
Still with me.....ok, now we move onto the most important factor thought by most in the chain the DAC (digital to analogue converter). by purchasing a good dac from 200 quid up to 2500 (a shed load cheaper then 15000) you can correct jitter offloaded from the pc and output the desired bit perfect hi res audio to your amp and speakers. The sound is said by all that have tried it a very competative listen.

You can further the sound quality by doing away with the amp and speakers and running an active speaker system, rather then passive. This has the ability to outperform even high end passive speakers again maximising sound quality but redcuing buck. something like the orion++ active speaker which can be DIY for around 1000 quid or delivered as new for 3500 quid. The sound again is said to be revealing enough that you could never accept another sound from any other device.

So to conclude a dac for about 800 quid and active speaker setup for 2000 will tear down hi cost hi-fidelity and give you the functionality of something like itunes and your complete library at hand to enjoy more music better. Not to mention if you have a itouch or iphone the ability to control with album art and select your audio, not bad for less then 3000 grand.

A system you would never need to replace, less moving parts to go wrong, how can you argue with that (im sure someone is going to try)!!!!!!???????

[ChiangMai noon]

what?

[koogook]

computer audio comprendev vous?

[ChiangMai noon]

computer audio comprendev vous?

not yet.

try it in English

[koogook]

no offloading info for people with pc's to get high functioning hi fidelity sound and enjoyment of music for a low cost!!!!!!

if you want i can sell you something..........?

[melvbot]

no offloading info for people with pc's to get high functioning hi fidelity sound and enjoyment of music for a low cost!!!!!!

You consider spending 3 grand low cost?

[LSNEED]

no offloading info for people with pc's to get high functioning hi fidelity sound and enjoyment of music for a low cost!!!!!!

if you want i can sell you something..........?

Thanks, but no Thanks; if I wanted something like this I would research it and buy it on the internet, sounds like your markup may be a tad high.

If you had left out the BS about selling it to us, maybe we could overlook the rest of your posts.

[koogook]

no offloading info for people with pc's to get high functioning hi fidelity sound and enjoyment of music for a low cost!!!!!!

if you want i can sell you something..........?

Thanks, but no Thanks; if I wanted something like this I would research it and buy it on the internet, sounds like your markup may be a tad high.

If you had left out the BS about selling it to us, maybe we could overlook the rest of your posts.

If i wanted you to tell me something i'll ask next time then......The research you would have done would have come up short, there is no mark up im not selling anything you ingrate!!!!!!!!!!!!

[koogook]

computer audio

[NickA]

My creative speakers were £20.

Sound alright to me

[koogook]

3000 pounds is cheaper then 15000 for a complete system rather then a cd player, wouldnt you say, hang on i'll check my sums......yes as the title says im right!!!!!!

I did put in a sliding scale for those of you not moronic enough just to read whats on the page use some brain power and see that this could apply right acrss the board of spec and budget..................

of course i forgot that doesnt seem to be the type so far putting ther interest into this one!!!!!!!!!!!!! quelle surprise (big huff)

[watterinja]

Computer Audiophile | High-End Audiophile Music Servers

[Marmite the Dog]

CD audio is always a compromise as it is hard limited at both the top-end as well as the low-end. Not that humans can always tell the difference as has already been pointed out.

[koogook]

CD audio is always a compromise as it is hard limited at both the top-end as well as the low-end. Not that humans can always tell the difference as has already been pointed out.

You are of course right and most find it hard to listen to digital from a lifetime of vinyl spinning, but in respects for what can be achieved it is by all merits very musical and can be done very cheap!

never mind

[Mid]

dear god

a zillion persado's of high end crap into $10 speakers is still $10 sound .

[koogook]

dear god

a zillion persado's of high end crap into $10 speakers is still $10 sound .

Indeed hats why you need better speakers too, im of course not talking about computer speakers for the pc but hifi sound from a computer distributed as you see fit.

maybe that is not clear!

[The Fish]

so why is it,£15000 for a cd player?

mine was only 950b

[koogook]

The stock test for this setup working was the Naim audio cds555 a 15000 pounds cd player, the comparison was done with a mac mini to lavry da10 dac in to amp and speakers and the testers found that whilst there was a difference the sound was by all means as close and personal as you can get. considering the lavry dac is 450 pounds thats quite a saving.

you do need bit perfect rips which can be done in itunes although there are complications, or a source like EAC software which will check the copy. The reason for the mac mini is how simple and silent it is as a server.

im not saying its for everyone , im not that arrogant i just thought for high end users this would be some interesting info!!!!!!!!!

[Marmite the Dog]

Of course, any decent CD transport with a digital output connected to a good DAC will give similar results direct from a CD.