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    November rain you took two sentences totally unrelated and made your own assumptions. But OK- each to their own. Artist- yes, most Thais don't but we do sell a good 40% of our pups to Thais who have dosh. If you think 35K is a lot for a dog then I must be insane as I am about to pay 200,000 for my next one. But then this is like any hobby: once you develop a love for something you are always looking to go one better. Add the dosh spent to the food I use (only imported food from the US whch sets me back 2,700 a bag) plus for the dog's first 6 months of it's life I keep it totally air-conditioned in my house. It only goes out for short walks. So my air con runs 24/7. Too much risk of Parvo virus in Thailand especially now in the hot season.

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    Dr Andy: if you mean show as in dog shows then No: in Thailand the show quality is the same as in the US- they go for smaller dobes with pointy features and particular lines. In Europe they go for barrel chests, big heads and a much bigger, brute of a dobe. I love dobes because they are a mixture of 4 great breeds: the original pinscher, german shepherds and greyounds as well as rottweilers. A dobe in full flight is a spectacle to behold with that greyound speed and the strength of what can only be called awesome. I also love them as they have great personalities, are incredibly loyal and are highly intelligent. In 15 years of owning dobes I have never met an unhappy dobe owners but hundreds of very happy ones.

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    That is why I prefer Rotties - greatest dogs I ever had - the last one cost me 85K THB with original tail...
    Greatest dog I ever had - clever as hell - had to put him down 2 years ago after Kasetsart Hospital couldn't help him anymore (stomach muscle didn't work anymore - thus no food reached the stomach, a stent helped there but only for 3 months). Still miss the guy!

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    Thank You, Charlie, you made my day putting up this post about one of my favorite types of dogs. The other of course is the Rott. Both very good dogs if raised right. I used to have little kids petting my Rott and Dobe when I came out of the stores in the U.S. It in a way was not good because the kids didn't know my dogs and you never knew when a kid like that was going to pet the wrong dog. I was afraid for the kid, not with my dogs of course, but other dogs. I will be contacting you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charl1972
    November rain you took two sentences totally unrelated and made your own assumptions. But OK- each to their own.
    No, I made no assumptions. I'm actually not stupid and realise that docking and cropping are done by humans. I was hoping you might see fit to explain why your & this breeder's dogs are maimed for the sake of fashion & tradition. And yes, it is maiming (and illegal in countries such as UK), as is sticking up their ears forcibly with tape to get the required shape (Dobes have hound ears naturally).

    In bygone years when dogs were used for fighting and specific related purposes, cropping/docking may have been advantageous. Now, it is maiming for the vanity of the breeder and the owner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charl1972
    Too much risk of Parvo virus in Thailand especially now in the hot season
    Firstly, parvo is only a risk for pups. Adults can be carriers, but will not get sick. Secondly, you pay that much for a dog and won't pay 300bt (max) for a vaccine???

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    November: at 8 weeks they only have only had 1 set of shots- one then has to wait another month at a time before they get their full dose of shots- all shots done by around 4 months and even THEN they are STILL succeptible to Parvo. What I am saying is assumption is the mother of all f........s- of course I vaccinate them- I have no idea how you got the impression I don't. The point being even with the vaccine shots it does not give them 100% immunity from the virus as their immune systems are still developing. At around a year both myself and my breeder only then start leaving them outside for lengthly periods of time. Of course we still walk them but it is too risky to let a 70-200K dog live outside before a year old when Parvo can be transmitted by flies, shoes and a host of other ways if they are allowed to roam free in Thailand. We even dose them AFTER they have been to the vets here with a yellow tablet (neurofloxine or something like that) to prevent Parvo as vets can be breeding grounds for Parvo. I won't take risks with Parvo as even if a dog recovers the dog will never grown to full size plus we also cannot breed him after that.

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