Thread: Doberman Pups for Sale- Fully Pedigreed

I must say I don't understand all this pedigree breeding shit.
I've mostly had mongrels with great character, if treated right, and rarely had a problem.

Given the numbers of dogs needing homes I find it hard to understand the breeding of more........other than owner ego.

You're going to have hard time "selling" the pup without some pics of the dog and your facility.

If you are a serious breeder suggest you advertise on TD. Easy to do and not expensive.

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Norton,

To be honest mate they are all already sold. I placed this add a LONG time ago and did not realise that replies to my posting would not go directly to my mailbox. I was advertising J litter at that time- I sold all 9 pups in 2 weeks. Since then I have sold K litter (all 5 pups were sold before they were even born) and now I have L litter who are just on 2 weeks old and are all sold out too. When you get known for having good dogs there is a definite knock-on effect. Like I said before: I searched long and hard to find a good dobe breeder in Thailand and this guy was head and shoulders above the rest. Of course, he sells many of his pups too as he has contacts and has done this for 24 years- he really has an excellent reputation. I always post pics of new litters once they are older than 3 weeks to give people an idea. M litter will be a while now and our last for the year: probably will be due around the beginning of August. Oh and to answer Jandajoy: sometimes people like a particular breed of dog- I happen to be a huge dobe fan and have always been one. Owner ego could extend to a lot of other things besides wanting a particular breed of dog.

Oh and Norton, for the record mate: I am using this forum to defend myself from some of the accusations hurled at me and not to sell pups. Like I said: I posted that advert a long time ago.

Originally Posted by Charl1972

Oh and Norton, for the record mate: I am using this forum to defend myself from some of the accusations hurled at me and not to sell pups. Like I said: I posted that advert a long time ago.

Yes I see that. I know nothing about breeding but looks like litters go in alphabetical order so if you need to advertise for the M and K litters do it here.

Also, stick around and after a few more posts you can post pics.

Thanks Norton. As soon as the M litter are of an age when they can be photographed I will definitely post some pics here. This Avatar is of my new dog Cito- imported from Serbia. He is the pup I will be taking care of. Note the great deep chest and huge head- in this pic he is only 4 months old! He will be a handful...

Originally Posted by Charl1972

Which is why it was meant as a general comment. Sorry: to make it less absolute I shall re-phrase: our dogs generally come on heat once every 9 months- give or take and they stay on heat for around 2 weeks- give or take. Better? I think the point I was trying to make was that it isn't that hard to keep a bitch away from a potential 'mistake' if you only have 2 dogs and keep her secure in your back garden or in a closed-in-area. I have done this sucessfully for years and never had a bitch inseminated by some roving hound. The insinuation that we inbreed was a bit of slap in the face really as this one of the main things we avoid like the plague and why my breeder spends so much money flying in stud dogs from all corners of Europe to get new bloodlines.

just trying to help you avoid being a target, there are any of number of pedants here who revel in those type of openings to infest like a virulent flesh eating bacteria..

I assume the above highlighted comment was not directed at me as I never made such a suggestion..

Originally Posted by jandajoy

I must say I don't understand all this pedigree breeding shit.
I've mostly had mongrels with great character, if treated right, and rarely had a problem.

Given the numbers of dogs needing homes I find it hard to understand the breeding of more........other than owner ego.

that's one perspective..not the prevailing one, nor the only, but one perspective anyway, the world takes all kinds....

Originally Posted by DrivingForce

being good character judges as they are

True. Why the hell does my dog only growl at Thai people but wag its tail like mad even if it smells/sees/hears white strangers. Pretty sure its the spound the Thais make as it happens.

strapping Dobie, so they are chocolate then? Puppy pics no matter what always go well over the forum.. We don't care too much for simian pics though as they often remind us too much of certain pedantic members..

Thanks DF- good advice. This is my first post on this site so I will be more careful about 'finer details' next time. LOL at Somtam: my dobe does the same thing!! Maybe they are used to us, when they smell or hear a Thai they bark- odd tho' as my long-term gf is Thai....

This dobe you see in the pic is a slight cut above our other pups (although it is still early days and dobes take 3 years to fully mature and show their true colours) as he was picked from pictures on a website and cost nearly 200,000 Baht! My breeder uses this Serbian breeder (the one with the website) to import many of his champions- so this pup (Cito) will be used as a stud in about 15 months from now. Our dobes are a mixture: we have some brown dobes and some black ones. The last litter (L) produced: 4 black males, 3 brown males, 2 black males and 2 black females. It's always a lucky dip what we get as even when we breed two black males we often get a few brown pups- seems all our stud dogs and dames have both black and brown genes. It seems the European breeders also have this. You often see champions on the circuits with brothers or sisters being a different colour dobe.

Hahahahahaha!!! Ok- a Freudian slip!! Hell- that can be interpreted in so many different ways LMFAO! I bet the vultures will have a field day now!!! hahaha!!

well this is Thailand I guess at times it's even difficult to tell if the dogs are shemales or not?

No answer to my question in my earlier post.

How about this - who would you rather buy a dog from? A professional breeder that is paid and can afford to do things right or an amateur?

If I am going to buy a show quality Rot, I prefer to pay for the dog.

I am against puppy farm, buy just because a guy gets paid does not make him one.

well this is Thailand I guess at times it's even difficult to tell if the dogs are shemales or not?

yes absolutely

curious?? is anyone training these dobies? or just the respective owners?

We give them away at around 8 weeks of age and expect the owners to train them BUT so far I have found that all the new owners say that the dogs know to use newspaper to do their business on or go outside as the breeder does try and at least teach them that.

Well said Chi. I also know a guy in Bangkok who is an excellent breeder of Rotts. He only has 3 dames and one stud but there is a HUGE network of Rott breeders in Thailand and it seems to be well organised. He gets stud dogs from the other breeders and sells his pups from home. Again, for him it's a hobby- pic up any dog mag in Thailand and turn to a Rott competition and there he is wearing his Eukenuba shirt (or whatever) and beaming from ear to ear. He takes great pride in showing quality Rotts and breeding them. He has a whole outside house dedicated to keeping them in air con and a huge grass area where thet exercise. Is he a puppy farm? No way! My breeder does exactly the same as what you do: over 24 years of breding dobes he has tons of contacts all over Europe. He keeps tabs on who is breeding which dog with who etc. as he follows every bloodline religiously- when he hears that (for example) Baron Nike Renewal has just had pups with Heidi Royal Bell von Neederlands Stam (they all have bombastic names like this) he licks his lips- waits for pics- and then coughs up between 3- 13,000 Euros for a puppy that gets flown out here. This Friday he will go and fetch two new pups- they both cost him around 4,000 Euros each! Dobes do not live that long- they may live between 7-9 years (approx) so is his hobby about dosh? No way! It's the same with any hobby a person is passionate about- money becomes irrelevant. Unfortuntaley, I am also getting hooked on this hobby but don't have the space at home nor the dosh to take it to that kind of level...

Originally Posted by jandajoy

I must say I don't understand all this pedigree breeding shit. I've mostly had mongrels with great character, if treated right, and rarely had a problem.

whatever happened to Rubbajohnny, JJ?

Originally Posted by Charl1972

We give them away at around 8 weeks of age and expect the owners to train them BUT so far I have found that all the new owners say that the dogs know to use newspaper to do their business on or go outside as the breeder does try and at least teach them that.

well I was more thinking of proper obedience training.. not just where to potty, but how to act, they are large dogs and can be a handful if not properly trained..

Having a dog that cost so much must be an extra worry

I lost one of my dogs last month to a cobra, and that was bad, but at least no-one was going to kidnap him etc

Oh, by the way: I have a litter of pups that have become available. We sold the dame of this litter to this guy a few years ago and he brought in a sire from Europe- big brute of a male. I have the full lineage of dame and sire. Pups are between 25-35 depending on pick and come with docked tails and cropped ears (optional). We have taken the pups and mother from him and will be handling them ourselves. Great dogs! No brown ones this time- all black. Odd as the female is brown... that's Mother Nature for you!

Originally Posted by Charl1972

docked tails and cropped ears (optional).

Originally Posted by Charl1972

that's Mother Nature for you!

Is the cropping and docking 'Mother Nature', too? Words fail me.

35000 baht for a pup is a lot that is why Thais dont go for them

Originally Posted by chitown

If I am going to buy a show quality Rot, I prefer to pay for the dog.

That is what I don't really understand about all this breeding

Do people buy these dogs just for show? in both senses of the word

They are an interesting breed, but mutt dogs are also the real thing, even without a so-called pedigree