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    Passive income in thailand

    Does anyone actively invest in thai or other equities to generate income? there are quite a few thai equities which generate a comparatively good income in today's low yield world.

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    Good place to start but that site is not very accurate/up to date nor comprehensive/exhaustive. Gives the private investor more oppurtunities in lesser researched markets though.

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    ^ If you got a better list then post it up.
    I have been thinking about trying this for a long time but haven't been able to get enough confidence to take the plunge.

    I have been told they deduct tax at source for farangs
    Is that correct ?

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    I think it's a good idea to have a basket of equities with a reasonable dividend yield, and the SET is not expensive on earnings multiples (something to do with the non-stop political turmoil here). Rental yields are pretty good too, but Thai real estate is quite illiquid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    I think it's a good idea to have a basket of equities with a reasonable dividend yield, and the SET is not expensive on earnings multiples (something to do with the non-stop political turmoil here). Rental yields are pretty good too, but Thai real estate is quite illiquid.
    yes always good to have a basket of equities to diversify risk. there is a listed ETF in thailand that contains 30 higher dividend equities (large, lower risk companies) within one security which may be a good place to start for a beginner. Sorry i dont know your level of experience, I may be talking down to you here, teaching granny to suck eggs .
    Don’t argue with idiots because they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thetyim View Post
    ^ If you got a better list then post it up.
    I have been thinking about trying this for a long time but haven't been able to get enough confidence to take the plunge.

    I have been told they deduct tax at source for farangs
    Is that correct ?
    As far as I am aware there is no capital gains tax on equities in thailand, making it amongst the most attractive worldwide.
    There is a 10% withholding tax on dividends which applies irrespective whether you are thai or non thai. that is the default automatic situation, obviously individuals personal tax positions are all different.

    I am not a tax adviser, please don't rely on this as gospel.

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    Finally...What! A discussion of contemporary investment options!.
    I love it when we talk "dirty".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thetyim
    Dividend yield of companies from Thailand
    The "best" payer gives you 8%

    Quote Originally Posted by draco888
    There is a 10% withholding tax on dividends
    A 2% loss for a years risk, way to go.

    Whereas the shiny metal continues to provide a real positive return. Plenty of buying and selling outlets for "cash".

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh
    A 2% loss for a years risk, way to go.
    I gather you are new to this

    8% dividend less 10% witholding Tax = 7.2%
    Last edited by Thetyim; 09-08-2012 at 10:26 PM.

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    Yanks are better off with a US account. Safer and many more options

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    ^^Taxes on gambling, yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang
    but Thai real estate is quite illiquid.
    Laymans terms?

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    Easy to buy, crap to sell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorenzo View Post
    Yanks are better off with a US account. Safer and many more options
    thai stocks can be bought and sold through a US brokerage account. I have never used a thai based brokerage for purchases of thai stocks.

    US persons actually have far less options in the investment universe than other nationalities because of the onerous reporting requirements which the US has enacted. US persons are not welcome in many jurisdictions any more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    ^^Taxes on gambling, yes.
    and buying gold is not 'gambling'?

    12mnths:

    S&P 500 +19%
    Gold -7%

    approx figures

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorenzo
    Yanks are better off with a US account. Safer and many more options
    Safer, but not earning any money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by draco888
    US persons actually have far less options in the investment universe than other nationalities because of the onerous reporting requirements which the US has enacted. US persons are not welcome in many jurisdictions any more.
    Anti market-economy Volcker rule. Of course it does not mean much, everyone has gone - as it is very easy in these times - to more competitive UK or Australia, so just net loss for US - sadly

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    Quote Originally Posted by draco888
    and buying gold is not 'gambling'?
    Of course it is but is it taxed?

    Quote Originally Posted by draco888
    12mnths:

    S&P 500 +19%
    Gold -7%
    Investment dear boy, or are you day trading? See post #15

    Quote Originally Posted by nostromo
    Safer, but not earning any money.
    You seem to have missed the number of brokerage houses both in the US and UK that have gone bust and their customers money, supposedly held in segregated accounts, vaporised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh
    You seem to have missed the number of brokerage houses both in the US and UK that have gone bust and their customers money, supposedly held in segregated accounts, vaporised.
    That is a very good point. But in the end it is up to investors to demand segregated accounts - and MUCH more. I always demand segregated accounts for us, that is just the reality. 98% of Retail forex crowd, bless them (now I am like SD sorry) are not in the know. Currensee 63% long euro like some time ago

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by draco888
    and buying gold is not 'gambling'?
    Of course it is but is it taxed?

    Quote Originally Posted by draco888
    12mnths:

    S&P 500 +19%
    Gold -7%
    Investment dear boy, or are you day trading? See post #15

    Quote Originally Posted by nostromo
    Safer, but not earning any money.
    You seem to have missed the number of brokerage houses both in the US and UK that have gone bust and their customers money, supposedly held in segregated accounts, vaporised.
    no gold is not taxed in thailand. neither are capital gains in stocks. since there is no income from gold there is nothing to tax there.

    no i do not day trade, hence the reason I gave 12 month figures. choosing another time period can make either one look better than the other I know.

    Yes I fully agree, cant get any safer than gold in your own hand, no counterparty risk.

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    Tell you where there are so good little deals mate ,, in the banks ( promos ) .

    If you can trust your wife /gf with about 1 mill tbt as a lump deposit you can find a new promotion that will give you about 40.000 bht for only 4 months deposit .

    Unfortunately you have to withdraw it after the 4 months and wait or hunt around for another promotion .

    My BIL took the plunge this year with 3 mill i.e. 1 mill in his / his wifes and his sons names ,, came up trumps

    No garuntees ,, just another idea to look at
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    Quote Originally Posted by nigelandjan
    No garuntees ,, just another idea to look at
    There are no guarantees, that is the bloody idea of it. No one knows where the market moves, there is that much political crap and psychological reaction. But this is the good time for imperialist adventurous mercantilist, we in the best tradition of British Empire make bloody billions when eurozone collapses. EURUSD 1.23031 as of now, tech shows going to 1.15 and fundamentals are south for europe, as much as europe is south 555 , now 1 euro is really less worth than 1 usd all things considered

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    EURAUD 1.622 fok europe. Aus, UK and US are just better whatever probs there are.

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