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Are the two water sources piped separately? It wouldn't hurt to have a valve in both systems just in case you need to balance the system to get the shower perfect. Ie one valve in the tank feed and one in the cold water feed. But even then it will all go awry if the potted plants get wated while you are showering.
I do not know how the "bleaters", but it is really criminal to suck by pump the water from a city mains. Firstly, you will suck the water from your neighbours - he will surely thank you - secondly, you might pull back from him (to yourself) all the rubish in his system, e.g., if his shower hose laying in his full bath tube, you will shower in his second-hand water.Quote:
Originally Posted by VocalNeal
If using your own pump, in-taking only from your own source, i.e. tank.
A simple sketch (without the well, just the red incomer from city mains):
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For the automatic pump - something like you show the round Mitsubishi ot similar, some 5,000 - 6,000 Baht, no headache in your lifetime.
That's it exactly. A picture is worth 1,000 words.
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Good points, I would add you have to build to suit your supply, we get city water supply 18 hours a day pretty much guaranteed, so have only a 1,000 ltr stainless tank, the water is clean and requires no further filtration. How's yours?Quote:
Originally Posted by Norton
Bypass line can come in handy when/if you have power cuts as we do on occasion.
I like a strong shower so ran 3/4" piping internally then down to 1/2" to showers etc, if you have 1/2" piping throughout pressure losses will be higher in the system giving less pressure.
We have a Grundfos CMB-PT for the house, this replaced a WM400 Inverter, relies on mechanical not electronics to work, problem we had with Inverter is they are stuck outside in the heat and the PC boards are not happy and don't last very long.
Good luck and all the best for the New Year
Yeah Norton... he's got all the house side lines installed. Just need to make the connections from the actual 'supply'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Norton
K.Pot is only just making the tank foundations now
With a good bloomage display AND thorn deterrent it seems to be the perfect choice, DavidQuote:
Originally Posted by David48atTD
...interestingly NPT, the Thaiwasadu salesman was less impressed with Mitsu and kept bypassing it - could it possibly be something to do with commission potential?!!Quote:
Originally Posted by NamPikToot
Horrid. Not often off but slower than molasses in January and usually heavy with sediment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Airportwo
Yep VN, the hot water tank is the highest piece of the systemQuote:
Originally Posted by VocalNeal
Got a larger shower head in the en-suite - do you think it might struggle for hot or cold water? I was looking at an even bigger shower head here!! . maybe i could fit a single small shower water tank just for this? there is certainly room and all the pumps in my initial question could pump the the roof ridge if needed
Of course, currently there are no electric showers in any bathrooms. In the future, if necessary, we could fit those into stage 4. (the third part of the house)
Ahh right, that makes more sense - its a fall-back position, not running in tandem?Quote:
Originally Posted by Norton
Our pressure is actually OK but who is to say what we get in the future?
probably i dont know what i am talking about, so apologies in advance but... wouldnt the 'constant pressure' option maintain the supply pressure when taps were turned on n off?Quote:
Originally Posted by VocalNeal
Or is 'constant pressure' a whole different meaning in this case?
No, that is not Bouganvillea, but I don’t know what it is. If you really want to know, there is a free app called plantsnap to identify plants.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thai Dhupp
In Australia you can get a dwarf variety of Bouganvillea which is sold by the name of Bambino Bouganvillea, I don’t know if that is available here ? It only grows to about 1 meter.
Dragonfruit (pitara) is usually grown up a pole and then out in a radial pattern but at my house in Australia I had some espaliered along the top of the back fence to keep out the neighbors cats......that’s very thorny and worked a treat !
Likely, Mitsu have a good engineering rep and as you've already pointed out the salesman prolly has zero tech knowledge apart for the price tag. As VN says the key parts are replaceable and that is usually a good sign.... or could be bad if they are accessible coz they wear quick but in this instance the former.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thai Dhupp
Taking VNs steer you may want to ask the salepeeps which parts they have replacements for on other models - no or lack of replacement on key wear parts probably points to a disposable piece of kit which usually points to built to a price.
Correct. I know not what it is either. Bouganvillea ref in my post was a suggestion for a thorny hedge..Quote:
Originally Posted by mikenot
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If you put the sand filter before the water tank wouldn't it keep your tank cleaner? Just an idea.
No, it will not necesserily. Firstly, the pressure from the city system is not always strong enough to go thru the sand. Secondly, any long water storage in the tank will result in a settlement of residua that always such water contains. And the pump could pull some fine sand pieces from the filter, not so good for its bearings.Quote:
Originally Posted by dennis4558
Then, it is advisable, to add timely a bit of chlorine into the tank to prevent growing of some bacterias that always can appear with such long storage - and with a unknown water quality either. And the chlorine will pull out some substances (metalic and alkalines ones) from the water. They will actually settle, however, a portion can be pulled into the system, so better to filter it out.
Such sand filter 1 - 1.5 m high standing with a backwashing valves combination (for backwashing every 1 -2 months) can be bought for ca. 10,000 Baht, and it is for your lifetime (almost), shown at many moo baan houses.
TD
Sorry to take you away from all that interesting stufgf about pumps but I went and took a picture of some bougainvillea we have here growing in a pot so I could compare with the picture you showed and they are definately no the same plant.
This yours
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And these are from our place
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The leaves on the one you showed look thicker than ours. The flower colours vary with pink, white and purple some that I have seen.
Just remember to control the bugger if you plant directly in the ground.
I believe it would make a great protection hedge.
This is the Bougainvillea (FuangFaa), so usual and plentiful in Thailand:
https://www.google.com/search?q=boug...ed=0CAgQ_AUoAQ
The pump stuff is very interesting, ootai, and Klondyke's schematic is great for seeing what goes where.Quote:
Originally Posted by ootai
yeah...I can see the plants are totally different. I mainly want the deterrent value, and the blooms are a bonus.
I figured pot-bounding the plantings to help limit aggressive growth.
I asked PJ to ask the fishing lake lady what she planted and I will share here with all.
Cheers for that Klondyke - really is a fantastic choice of colours, isn't there?Quote:
Originally Posted by Klondyke
Hi NPT...Seems like everyone favours Mitsubishi - or at least if they have anything other that's good (or maybe not so good) they are not telling!!Quote:
Originally Posted by NamPikToot
The point mentioned by you and VN about spares is really valid and again. Mitsu spares are available IF needed.
Seems like that Mitsu unit can do all I need and its a reasonable price compared to Thaiwasadu salesman's 'recommendations'!!
hehe looks like... we go mitsu!!
TD
Of course the pump stuff is interesting and the schematic is very good, once again a picture is worth a thousand words and usually less confusing.
We have an ITC GX series pump connected to our tank to provide water to our taps and showers. It is a Japanese brand and has been going strong since we built the house so 8 years now and we have had to do nothing to it so far.
I have a question though, not really for you but for the others who have contributed, and that is what does the sand filter actually filter out?
Does it only filter larger sediment type material or will it also filter iron and calcium etc?
Do you need another filter for those?
As for having a deterrent wall of bougainvillea, do you want protection at the bottom because if you plant in pots there will be a gap at that level.
Also when I was at Do Home the other day I had a look at the tanks same as we have and there were 4 different colours available.
What type of tank have you decided on?
Cheers
Thanks Klondyke for the info, good to get input from someone with experience.Quote:
Originally Posted by Klondyke
What is sedimented is laying at the bottom - unless whirled up. Perhaps, it can influence chemically somehow the water after long standing there. Then of course the sand will filter it out. River quarz sand is good suitable for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by ootai
As of iron and calcium, it will sediment once exposed to oxygen. Iron faster, heavy metals (manganins, etc) slower. An addition of anorganic chlorine will speed up the oxidation. The oxids (rusts) will too settled and lay down at the bottom. Some portion of it (not sedimented) will be filtered by the sand.
If a strongly ironized and alkaline water from a drilled well - after pumping out can be tested in a bucket by addition of chlorine, whether the originally clear water will turn in a rusty slops. If yes, it's a good and simple procedure to have a separate tank for sedimenting (once a time in batch, not continuously) before it's led to the system. Otherwise the sand will be fully blocked very fast by the fine rust that hasn't time enough to sediment.
More about my successful fight with my extreme ironized water can be found in my thread of affordable swimming pool.
Did you mean "planting a fish"?Quote:
Originally Posted by Thai Dhupp
Then every correct mansion has to have a koi fish pool, example:
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If a fish for eating then a plaa nin (tilapia)...
Outer doors
...so now the 'dragon doors' got delivered Christmas week, and are ready to fit. Here's a sneak preview.
I know not everyone will like them but she set her lil heart on them. gotta let her choose some thing, right!?
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These ones are going in the upper doorway out onto the balcony
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These two pairs for the 2 downstairs doorways out into zone 2
TD tell PJ i like them, are they clear top coated? just a thought as the environment is pretty hostile for paint in ThailandQuote:
Originally Posted by Thai Dhupp
Lol Klondyke.. she likes fish but even she would not eat koi....Quote:
Originally Posted by Klondyke
Beautiful, an we will have a Koi pool for sure... that's way down on about stage 10 I think!!
I was referring to that mystery bush with the thorns picture , which i posted a while back.
Maybe the lady who owns the fishing lake and who planted it will know...
I believe they are... the supply company spent ages doing the finishing (delayed delivery twice) ...I will have to check to be sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by NamPikToot
As I said...this is 100% her .baby'. (PJ=Senior VP in charge of Doors)
Oh, and Klondyke... thanks for all your useful input and information-sharing re pumps, sediment, tanks, filters etc.
I think quite a few of us have learnt something from your knowledge and postings - thanks very much.
TD
Boundary wall preparation - piling 1
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"Mr. TD, build up the wall!!!"
And get your neighbor to pay for it. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Klondyke
and you will never believe it... he's MexicanQuote:
Originally Posted by Norton
...always paddling across the klong looking for work
K.Pot won't employ him though because he wants to sleep the whole afternoon....
Lol...I am a Floyd fan too..:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Klondyke
Me too, make sure Kpot is authentic Thai with the wall and ensure there is no block overlap just looks plain ridiculous if they stagger the courses:)
How deep did they make the wall post foundations?
I like your thinking... why make problems? no need to cut all those half blocks...just make the uprights match the gap for whole blocks..Quote:
Originally Posted by NamPikToot
or even better... forget the uprights altogether..
and... to finish off, only colour it with 1 coat of watered down paint so that everyone can see your state-of-the-art block work and the builder can get tons more work off the back of his efforts.
It's win-win, right?