Thai Dhupp and Princess Joy's Thai House Build

[Thai Dhupp]

Silly me ! Induction, of course . Since I was a babe its been Gas , never considered Induction because I never needed to.

I think that is probrably the best idea, will run that one past the wife, but I can say that I'm sold on the idea for all the reasons you have highlighted .

This is exactly why we need these forums to become better informed and make the right choices, thanks for that Thai Dhupp.

Totally agree with you.

Nearer the time I will be looking for suggestions for kitchen brand appliances - whats good, what to avoid.

I have great experiences with deDeitrich and terrible experiences with Smeg. That's me...but maybe not you, so I will seek advice from members for the kitchen kit, the A/C, etc etc.

Hopefully this info can be shared and discussed here, for the benefit of all.

[David48atTD]

Q. Where will your gas bottles be located ?

This one is simple. No gas. No bottles. No requirement. We will not be having gas in the house.

The cooking for PJ outside, when she does it, will be traditional, with the charcoal, she likes it.

" No gas. ... The cooking for PJ outside, when she does it, will be traditional, with the charcoal, she likes it."

Humm ... TD, I would double confirm that with SWMBO

The only time we use charcoal at the Farm is when we grill/open flame various seafood.

IMHO a gas ring, outside, might be an option to consider.


Apologies if I seem negative and questioning your innovative ideas, just that many of them is opposite to my
experiences of living in Thailand.

[Norton]

IMHO a gas ring, outside, might be an option to consider.

An option but my missus also prefers charcoal. Traditional thing for Thai barbeque get together. Not something done on a daily basis.

[David48atTD]

An option but my missus also prefers charcoal.
Traditional thing for Thai barbeque get together.
Not something done on a daily basis.

Understood.

Does she usually cook with gas or electric?

(assuming she does the majority of the cooking in the Norton Household)

[Norton]

Does she usually cook with gas or electric?

Electric oven, gas hob in the kitchen. She does all the cooking after I do a particular dish once. She cooks up a fine TexMex meal.

[Thai Dhupp]

" No gas. ... The cooking for PJ outside, when she does it, will be traditional, with the charcoal, she likes it."

The only time we use charcoal at the Farm is when we grill/open flame various seafood.

David, you got it in one... that's the ONLY BBQ-style cooking she will be doing!

Right now, she's cooking 'outside' in our lil' apartment...using a single ring INDUCTION hob! Never once lit the BBQ, she only does that when she's at her Mum's place.

"Apologies if I seem negative and questioning your innovative ideas, just that many of them is opposite to my experiences of living in Thailand.

No worries, its not negative, its just 'different strokes for different folks', or something like that... shes actually more interested in the western-style kitchen, with mod-cons, and AC than slaving over anything outside with the mosquitos. The Thai kitchen will be for BBQ, simply to keep the smoke, and any smell out of the house.

Coming to live with me in Abu Dahbi, opened her eyes to multi-ring cooking, and of course the oven, something she did not have access to before. Baked fish, caulli-cheese, even roast lamb have been greatly enjoyed.

She can always keep our existing induction hob out there too, if she really needs it.

[Thai Dhupp]

Electric oven, gas hob in the kitchen. She does all the cooking after I do a particular dish once. She cooks up a fine TexMex meal.

Hi Norton, yes...originally, we were going with this set-up too, until I had the 'incident' in Oman.

She was initially skeptical about cooking speed and the instant nature of gas, until I showed her just how fast induction is.

Now we are set on electric oven and hob.

[David48atTD]

TD ... time to teach me something


In the West, we don't have induction hot plates.

I need to replace the cook-top.

'Normal' cook tops can be got for circa US $400 - $600 (Budget Range)

The 'Induction' is twice/three times that ... and I've balked at the price.


Is Induction that much better?

Special pans required?

Tips for beginners?

[Thai Dhupp]

TD ... time to teach me something


In the West, we don't have induction hot plates.

I need to replace the cook-top.

'Normal' cook tops can be got for circa US $400 - $600 (Budget Range)

The 'Induction' is twice/three times that ... and I've balked at the price.


Is Induction that much better?

Special pans required?

Tips for beginners?

Hi David, Ok I can share what I know...

Gas heats up the pan and the air around it. Its wasteful, but even at around 45% efficiency, the intensity of gas heats the pan (and contents) rapidly.

What we want is something that has the immediacy of gas, without all the cleaning, excess heat and potential fire risk.

Enter ...induction cooking .

Literally, a magnetic field is 'induced' in the pan and the pan molecules become excited, heat is generated, and the pan cooks the food.

The induction hob itself only becomes warm from conducted, and radiated heat from the pan. Only the part of the pan touching the induction hob reflects heat back to the hob.

Maybe you have seen the videos of people putting a small amount of water in a saucepan, putting it half on the induction hob, and putting their hand on the other half, then switching it full on and boiling the water while the hand remains cool?

Anyway, this hob requires magnetic-abled cookware - iron and steel are fine (just check they are magnetic using a ...magnet). Aluminium, copper and gold pans are out (unless you buy those 'gold' pans from Kalyan Jewellers)

All this results in 80-85% efficiency, meaning an electricity saving every time you cook - less energy is 'wasted' in heating air - virtually all the power is channeled into the pan, and thence to the pan contents.

Personally, I believe it is worth it. No need to strip down the hob for cleaning every so often. just wipe it clean after cooking. The hob sits flat on the worktop so the work top lines are not altered. You can set a cook timer individually on each of the cooking zones which is good. It has a child lock too. Can't do any of that with the average gas hob. It heats up just as fast as gas, and it has enough adjustment on the temp control to find the one you are looking for

A big part of what I do involves safety, so I am interested in not introducing a fire/explosion hazard into the home. There will be 2 relatively young persons in the house so...why chance it, if there is the option to avoid it?.

Some say, 'ahh but... you cant flambe,' 'you cant do stir fry', etc. Well... with a magnetic wok, not an aluminium one, you can stir-fry. Granted there is no naked flame for flambe but how much flambe'ing is anyone doing? I do a lot of cooking and I have never flambe'd anything (burnt quite a lot of stuff though, but that don't count). If flambe food is your thing, get a gas-lighter wand or stick to gas hob cooking!

Although the concept has been around for a long time it only became domestic mainstream in the last 20 years or so. I bought my first induction hob about 12 years ago. Prior to that the choice was electric ceramic or gas so a goodly number of folks went for gas, the quicker option.

The new kid on the block may be dearer but I think its benefits out-weight that, and induction hobs are getting cheaper. I bought my deDeitrich unit for 400 quid, discounted so about 18,000AED and that was, as I say, 12 years ago. Last time I looked in HomePro, there were units for about 23,000THB. I believe that the 5,000THB difference is less than cost-of-living rises over those 12 years?

OK...enough of my rambling!! My preference is Induction, its modern, clean and efficient. Who's to say I am right? Its just my choice, for the reasons given above.

Hope that helped...!

[Thai Dhupp]

Electric oven, gas hob in the kitchen. She does all the cooking after I do a particular dish once. She cooks up a fine TexMex meal.

Lol, just want to add...you inspired me!

...just batch-cooked 6 super tasty chilli-con-carne dinners tonight

[dennis4558]

My preference is Induction, its modern, clean and efficient. Who's to say I am right? Its just my choice, for the reasons given above.

I agree with you TD, we will be using a induction top for inside kitchen and gas for outside Thai kitchen, for all the reasons you described above, the biggest reason for us is to keep the heat out.

[Thai Dhupp]

My preference is Induction, its modern, clean and efficient. Who's to say I am right? Its just my choice, for the reasons given above.

I agree with you TD, we will be using a induction top for inside kitchen and gas for outside Thai kitchen, for all the reasons you described above, the biggest reason for us is to keep the heat out.

Yeah, Dennis...heating up the house inside is another good point. Gas, by the very nature of combustion, heats up a LOT of air.

[Radar]

My wife & I are planning a month’s visit to BKK & Phon-Ngam, Isaan from early July and would really appreciate being able to visit your construction site as we research suppliers for our home. If that would be acceptable to you would you please drop me a PM so that we can arrange for it. I would also like to make contact with Dennis4558 & Norton as they live in Roi Et which is very close to us during that same trip. If they too could let me know in due course I would welcome the contact.

[Norton]

Send me a PM when you get to Roiet. We can get together.

[Radar]

Thank you Norton, we look forward to it.

[Thai Dhupp]

My wife & I are planning a month’s visit to BKK & Phon-Ngam, Isaan from early July and would really appreciate being able to visit your construction site as we research suppliers for our home. If that would be acceptable to you would you please drop me a PM so that we can arrange for it. I would also like to make contact with Dennis4558 & Norton as they live in Roi Et which is very close to us during that same trip. If they too could let me know in due course I would welcome the contact.

Hi there...it would have to be a time when one or other of us was there, of course!! I am next there late May / early June

I will PM you later, once I have checked the schedule. lol cant have anything stopping K.Pot now hes on a roll...!

Currently, he's 10 days ahead of the contract finish date.

[Thai Dhupp]

Quick Update...

There's a slight delay in pouring the first floor ring beam as K.Ek (OrBorTor Eng) has found one small discrepancy in the steel work for the master bedroom balcony.

K.Pot working on it now.

Nothing serious but again...glad I have the LA on side to keep things moving along correctly.

Reassures me if he finds stuff like this.

[Radar]

Thank you for your response & very happy that K.Pot is doing such a fantastic job for you.

[Thai Dhupp]

ummm....Assistance, please...

How do I post a clip from YouTube?

Every time I try to do it , I get a message that my post is 'too short', when I am adding 4 or 5 lines of text and the clip itself...

[David48atTD]

[David48atTD]

ummm....Assistance, please...

How do I post a clip from YouTube?

Every time I try to do it , I get a message that my post is 'too short', when I am adding 4 or 5 lines of text and the clip itself...

When you create a post. Look Up. Next to the smilie face, there are 4 keys or tabs.

The last one, which looks like a strip of film is the one to click for the You-Tube.

When you hold your mouse over it, it states 'Insert Video'

[Klondyke]

ummm....Assistance, please...

How do I post a clip from YouTube?

Every time I try to do it , I get a message that my post is 'too short', when I am adding 4 or 5 lines of text and the clip itself...

It happens also at my Maxthon, not with Firefox, IE.

[Thai Dhupp]

For those who were wondering what my previous comment about 'Kalyan Jewellers' was all about...




hmmm..magnetic 'solid' gold and solid gold with non-gold solids....interesting marketing going on in some outlets...

[Thai Dhupp]

Thanks, David and Klondyke... I learnt something new today

[dennis4558]

My wife & I are planning a month’s visit to BKK & Phon-Ngam, Isaan from early July and would really appreciate being able to visit your construction site as we research suppliers for our home. If that would be acceptable to you would you please drop me a PM so that we can arrange for it. I would also like to make contact with Dennis4558 & Norton as they live in Roi Et which is very close to us during that same trip. If they too could let me know in due course I would welcome the contact.

Sorry Radar we won't be there until October.