Thread: Solution to Terrorism?

Originally Posted by stroller

The "PC answer" is the truth.
I am not a Christian, but I do hold ethical values of a similar nature.

Is that why you lie to me? Is that why you condon terrorist? Is that why you protect Islamic Radicals? Is that why you hate christianity? Is that why you hate Americans? Watch it Stroller, that brown stuff is running out of your eyes again.

Well I think what surasak was trying to say is that you are being a complete hypocrite in regards to your religious beliefs

Originally Posted by Butterfly

Well I think what surasak was trying to say is that you are being a complete hypocrite in regards to your religious beliefs

And on the subject and referring to what I said, you are also way off course.

It's like the Muslim terrorists who say that they shouldn't kill their brothers but they still do. You are exactly the same and under the right circumstances you would be committing the same crime against humanity and other crazy terrorists acts. Your like are dangerous, but being the liberals that we are, we don't lock you in prison or try to wipe you out, even though we probably should.

Here is an idea: if we have to kill every Islamists then we should get rid of all those Christian fundies and Bible lunatics. Two birds with one stone.

Butterfly, I ignore you most of the time simply because you are so full of shit you can't even begin to understand anyone who responds to you.

Originally Posted by KID

If The u.s And The Rest Of The Coalition are Guilty Of War Crimes !!! What Are They???? Individuals May Have personally Committed Crimes, But Have They Not Been Taken To Trial For Those Crimes????

Does anyone understand this?
Please enlighten me.

Originally Posted by Butterfly

It's like the Muslim terrorists who say that they shouldn't kill their brothers but they still do. You are exactly the same and under the right circumstances you would be committing the same crime against humanity and other crazy terrorists acts. Your like are dangerous, but being the liberals that we are, we don't lock you in prison or try to wipe you out, even though we probably should.

Here is an idea: if we have to kill every Islamists then we should get rid of all those Christian fundies and Bible lunatics. Two birds with one stone.

Bingo. A repented sinner is not a Christian, therefore, one shouldn't be throwing stones in a glass house.

Originally Posted by risktohimself

Originally Posted by humphrey

Maybe the islamic countries do not want the alternative. Maybe they don't like what they see of non islamic cultures and society.

Certainly, Islam seems less tolerant of the West, than the West is of Islam.

Western people see Islam as 'quirky' whereas Muslims see all others as 'evil'.

How do you address that problem?

How did you get to that conclusion? Media?

Who are you asking Macha?

risktohimself I suppose.

Is he gone or what?

Originally Posted by ceburat

What you say here makes no sense at all. You don't like religion, ok, that's your problem. However, make sense when you do discuss it.

You seem to have a split personality, ceburat.
Ceburat the repented sinner allows himself to propose sins which would send him to hell, yet he also keeps referring to the name of god, as if he incorporated it in his life.

The term commonly used for this is "hypocrite".

Originally Posted by Macha

Originally Posted by risktohimself

Originally Posted by humphrey

Maybe the islamic countries do not want the alternative. Maybe they don't like what they see of non islamic cultures and society.

Certainly, Islam seems less tolerant of the West, than the West is of Islam.

Western people see Islam as 'quirky' whereas Muslims see all others as 'evil'.

How do you address that problem?

How did you get to that conclusion? Media?

It was a supposition, Macha, not a conclusion.

I said "Maybe", suggesting from things I've heard (yes, in the media as well as from other sources) that Muslim society recoils at the way western societies live?

Am I wrong? Would they care to embrace western values?

Originally Posted by stroller

Originally Posted by ceburat

Is that why you lie to me? Is that why you condon terrorist? Is that why you protect Islamic Radicals? Is that why you hate christianity? Is that why you hate Americans? Watch it Stroller, that brown stuff is running out of your eyes again.

You're a dishonest debater, old man. None of what you alledge is true.

Shame on you!

Give the benefit of the doubt and try to understand what I post.

Stroller, that's a classic Neo-con trick. When you start to make sense and your argument cuts a little too close to the truth then the haters will start spewing names and wild accusations at you. Your answer was spot on for that kind of tactic. Don't let them bait you with their name-calling.

Which media should be censored, how and by who? That's a very dangerous proposal.
I agree, the solution ultimately lies within Muslim communities - which doesn't mean the force of the law shouldn't be applied by authorities. The big mistake being made is to mix up the ideology of some extremist groups with the aims of followers of a world religion.

If certain foreign policy decisions are fueling terrorism perhaps the policies should be reviewed?

I say it all goes back to overconsumption of resources. If we didn't overconsume then we wouldn't need to protect the sources of those resources AND we wouldn't be filling the very coffers of the states who might be financing much of the terrorism in the world.

We want to drive our car 100MPH down the highway but when we crash we don't want to take responsibility for our action.

I bet terrorism would be non-existent if we stopped using Middle Eastern oil, brought the boys back home, and stopped taking sides in the Arab-Israeli conflict.

terrorism needs to be funded by big money, ie training the little f+cks then setting them up with a net work of suppliers of materials, surveilance, logistics etc etc.

now with the amount of money the west is spending [ billions and billions ] with these resources at our disposal why can we not trace where the funding is coming from [ or do the powers that be not want to take that avenue ]

cash these days is a rare commodity it has to be banked some where, even the donations from the mosques in the west must be transfered some how.

i can not speak for other countries but in the uk we know the problem mosques, so would it really be that hard to infiltrate these places, or do the governments really want to.

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This is happening.
In Germany also, several 'charitable' organisations, partly funded by donations to Mosques, have been exposed to send money to organisations known or suspected to sponsor terrorism.
As it's uaually a long chain of events stretching over several nations' borders, with peronalities disguised, it's very hard to prove anything, identify all individuals involved, and to establish to what extent these individuals are connected to whereever the money ends up being used for.

Originally Posted by surasak

I say it all goes back to overconsumption of resources. If we didn't overconsume then we wouldn't need to protect the sources of those resources

Overconsumption you say?

Man, I need my 4-wheeler, powerboat, fishing boat, two SUVs, snowmobile, motorhome that gets 4 mpg on the highway and that's just a start!

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by surasak

I say it all goes back to overconsumption of resources. If we didn't overconsume then we wouldn't need to protect the sources of those resources

Overconsumption you say?

Man, I need my 4-wheeler, powerboat, fishing boat, two SUVs, snowmobile, motorhome that gets 4 mpg on the highway and that's just a start!

You forgot your Lockheed Jetstar!