Thread: Gold & PMs - Buying, Selling, Discussion

All over the world more and more people are buying gold in these uncertain times. But I know the US better than foreign countries, and I'm much more knowledgeable and aware of the situation of the US economy, US Dollar, and Gold popularity in the US.
It's not in "shares and investemtns" because there is so much focus on the US political, economic, and corruption issues.

Here is an article.

You can definitely slam it. It sounds like a repetitive pitch for Gold by a gold bug.

Two forums for Gold are very popular and informative if you're interested: 1. goldismoney, and 2. 321gold.

Gold & The Panic Phase

Jim Willie CB
Jim Willie CB is the editor of the "Hat Trick Letter"
Mar 6, 2009

My rational and considered belief is that gold, as well as crude oil, will be anchors to the next global reserve currencies. What better route to stabilize both financial and commercial price systems? Those who believe that the USDollar will prevail and survive this turmoil as the global reserve currency are precisely as incorrect as those who believed the US banking system could survive the mortgage debacle as it unfolded. We are witnessing a long slow drawn-out death experience for the USDollar, liquidation of the USEconomy, to be followed by a default by the USTreasury Bonds. During the panic phase, the response in the gold & silver prices will be profound, with advances to date only a prelude to a march to $2000 gold and $50 silver.

CRESCENDO AFTER ETHICS ORIGINAL SIN
The topic of fraud has clearly been in the news often in the last two years. The mortgage fraud was for a while covered up by its framing as a subprime problem, but no longer. The counterfeit of Fannie Mae mortgage bonds, estimated at well over $1 trillion, has been essentially kicked under the rug on USGovt hallways following its nationalization. The insider trading by Goldman Sachs is an example of outstanding and impressive executions, perpetrated with complete impunity. The maze of unscrupulous, devious, and insidious fraudulent business units of JPMorgan is worthy of a 500-page chapter in the US financial history treatise, someday to be written. See the complete distortion of usury costs (interest rates kept low) by JPM, with such a volume of Interest Rate Swaps that was sufficient to run the Bond Vigilantes out of town. Skewed cost of money is the foundation for speculative bubbles. See the management of USTreasury Bonds by JPM on behalf of the Federal Reserve, along with the $2.2 trillion that they sold above and beyond the officially stated USGovt issuance of USTreasury Bonds. That is called counterfeit evidence, the records for which were lost in the third building at the World Trade Center. See the management by JPM of the Bank of Baghdad. Twice as much money is missing from the Iraq Reconstruction Fund than was stolen by Bernie Madoff, up to $100 billion being estimated. And never overlook the financial tentacles that extend from Afghan operations on the contraband side, to the Bank of Baghdad as the clearinghouse.
The quiet climaxes of fraud are seen with the Madoff Ponzi Scheme and other minor cases. If you think that authorities are still looking for where Madoff hid the stolen money, then you must believe that the Wall Street mission is to assist in the capitalization process for US industry. The majority of the Madoff funds are safely placed in the same location as much of the Wall Street ill-gotten gains. My sources report that location to be banks within the tiny ally coastal nation north of Egypt and south of Syria, which with the urging of the last Administration, removed all extradition laws in recent years. Trace back to find the original sin of the ethics violations, and you should find your feet squarely at the abrogation of the Bretton Woods Accord that cut the linkage between the USDollar and gold. This is an ethics violation climax of historical proportions.
The pathogenesis of breakdown must join with fraud during the advance of foreign debt ownership, which resulted in lost sovereignty. The hidden placation of foreign creditors results in hidden policy that does not cater to national interests of the United States anymore. The breakdown that comes will enable foreign creditors to gather a wide swath of US properties (residential homes, commercial property, factories, etc) from USTreasury Bond and USAgency Mortgage Bond conversion to hard assets. The teamwork, synergy, and innovation at the core financial engineering had been concentrated in what can be described at best as a national Ponzi enterprise of clean industry for the next millennium, and at worst on a grand network of fraudulent financial enterprise that includes fraudulent bonds, counterfeit bonds, narcotics, and arms dealing. The response in the gold & silver prices to recognized official and private fraud will be profound, with advances to date only a prelude to a march to $2000 gold and $50 silver.

STOCKS ARE THERMOMETER
The major indexes of the US stock market are in the news daily, and viewed by the public as perhaps the most important concurrent signal of the crisis. Technical chart analysts warn that the breakdown below the 2002-2003 support levels sounds an extremely loud alarm, paints a large billboard warning, and should be taken seriously as a dire development. Novices might not recognize the pattern below in the S&P500 index, but experienced analysts surely do. It is a long-term DoubleTop Head & Shoulders reversal pattern. It is a Mother of Reversal Patterns. Its base is roughly at 775, its top at 1550, which indicates a target of nearly zero. Not only are private wealth accounts being cut down but pension funds as well. Individuals invest much more in stocks than pension funds, which are diversified into bonds and commercial property. All asset groups are suffering. The public has begun to respond in minor panic to the stock market declines, as private telephone calls testify. Expect another decline of 25% to 35% on both the S&P index and Dow Jones Industrial Index. With each passing month comes more specific evidence of economic deterioration or disintegration, coupled with mammoth additional bank losses. They push stocks down. The key drivers seem to be job loss and big financial firm loss. See the history making $100 billion AIG annual loss, the ongoing hemorrhage at Citigroup and Bank of America, the gigantic extensions of cash from the USGovt to big banks.

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The claptrap propaganda coming from Wall Street centers on price multiples against earnings. The problem is that earnings are evaporating, and the PE ratio argument is empty. The response in the gold & silver prices to the deep stock declines, cratered pensions, and loss of life savings will be profound, with advances to date only a prelude to a march to $2000 gold and $50 silver.

RETAIL IS THE BAROMETER
Over 80 thousand retail stores closed in 2008. The forecast from expert corners is for another 120 thousand retail shutdowns in 2009. Numerous retail chains have gone out of business, with the list expected to more than double in 2009 and 2010. Recall retail consumption had been the boasted foundation of the USEconomy, the engine of growth to the global economy, by inept clueless hack economists for at least a decade. The national guidance from the economic counsel staffs continues to utter heresy that spending is healthy, when sound economic reason dictates that investment in productive enterprise is the key to any solution. This blight is very difficult to hide from the American public, as they pass the partially and completely shutdown malls, mini-malls, and small office strip malls during their daily lives. The feedback loops are indeed vicious, as reduced spending means job cuts, even though they are low-paid jobs. Bear in mind that the construction and operation of retail shopping malls does not constitute investment in an economy toward its productive capacity, but rather creation of a pathway to liquidate and spend home equity on the path to foreclosure and bankruptcy. In my view, retail serves as a barometer on what to expect in the near term future. The crisis collapse in the car industry echoes loudly the retail woes, as annual sales decline range from 40% to 50% per brand. The response in the gold & silver prices to the blight in shopping malls, retail crash, and car collapse will be profound, with advances to date only a prelude to a march to $2000 gold and $50 silver.

FORECLOSURES ARE THE LEADING INDICATOR
In 4Q2008, the rate of foreclosures rose by 53%. No stability whatsoever is evident. The only good news is that the rate of FC is no longer 100% on an annual basis. So a deceleration is in progress. Maybe in one year's time, the FC annual growth rate will only be 30% to 35%, with some luck. The Mortgage Bankers Assn reported today that the mortgage delinquency rate rose by two percentage points to 7.88% by year end 2008, and the foreclosure rate rose to 3.3% also. The total in DQ or FC rose from 10.1% in 3Q2008 to 11.2% in 4Q2008. So one home loan in nine is late or dead. Also, an estimated 20% of American homes are in negative equity situations, with loan balances in excess of their home values. As the delinquencies convert to foreclosures, the bloated home inventory for sale will remain at elevated levels. In fact, they are grossly under-stated, since banks are rotating foreclosed properties on their books in order to avoid a further flood on the bloated condition. REO properties by banks are a hot topic.


To be sure, a few dozen or a few hundred or perhaps even a thousand home loans might receive actual aid by the USGovt. The number of home loans to receive some form of official aid is proposed to benefit one in nine, coincidentally. Time will tell to what extent any new legislation on so-called 'cramdowns' takes root. Bankruptcy judges might soon have the power to dictate to a bank that it reduce home loan balances, seeking a level of affordability relative to proved income. The home loan aid process is incredibly slow, while the pace of economic decline is accelerating. Be sure to know that households in foreclosure, or in delinquency, or even in chronic insolvency from an under-water home loan do not spend money, and generally cut back on expenses, even enter a bunker mentality under siege. The response in the gold & silver prices to the household insolvency and foreclosure process will be profound, with advances to date only a prelude to a march to $2000 gold and $50 silver.

JOBS ARE THE LIGHTNING ROD
Nothing captures the attention of the public like the reports on job loss. Sudden income loss is often devastating. The continuing claims for jobless in the official aggregate records eclipsed the 5 million mark in late February. When the USGovt announces back-to-back months of over 500 thousand (half a million) job losses, the public will surely notice and scream from rooftops. Of course, the number is probably worse, since official agencies are urged to put the best face of their tilted figures. In the coming months, expect the number of monthly job losses to surpass the one million mark. As that occurs, the national level of concern will surely morph into some form of panic, with disorder to follow, and civil disobedience rampant. Calls for extreme action by the USGovt will be made, as though they control any solutions at all. In fact, look for their collective actions to greatly aggravate the national economic ills, with time release to occur down the road. After all, they sell hope. The response in the gold & silver prices to horrendous job loss will be profound, with advances to date only a prelude to a march to $2000 gold and $50 silver.

POLITICIANS REPEAT HISTORICAL ERRORS
The honeymoon is almost over for the new president. His cabinet staff comes from the same crowd within the establishment responsible for the financial collapse. They just wear different colored jackets, coming from the Clinton Camp instead of the Bush Camp. In my view, they are almost all turncoats to the nation. The federal budget for next year has centerpieces of tax increases (up 33% on income, up 100% on capital in the form of dividends), removal of some tax deductions for home mortgages, and a $20.4 billion defense budget increase. Obama even mentions measures that harken protectionism. Some of these main items are in a state of flux, as the errors of their ways are being re-evaluated. One should not increase taxes during a recession. One should not tax capital during a capital liquidation. One should not tax energy production during price instability. One should not discourage home purchase during a housing bear market. One should not increase military spending, when money is desperately needed for domestic purposes.


These are classic political errors that will render additional harm to the current economic and financial crisis. The Glass-Steagal Law to prevent collapse of the financial system was removed late in the 1990 decade. Dominos can now fall, as it is joined at the hips from banking, stock brokerage, and insurance. Its scrap was a Pet Project of former Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin, again the Poster Boy of financial failure and fraud (see his gold leasing multi-year project). His was the stolen 1990 decade of prosperity. The damage is therefore certain to run across the primary financial sectors for a long painful sequence in time. The insurance firms are next to fall. Watch Prudential, MetLife, Hartford, and Lincoln.
History is being actively ignored. "What experience and history teach is this: that people and governments never have learned anything from history, or acted on principles deduced from it." These words were spoken by Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel (19th century German philosopher). Few observers seem to realize that on the spectrum, the distance between Fascism (battle cry of last eight years) and Socialism (battle cry since inauguration) is remarkable short. Socialism shares the misery, as the successful are forced to pay for the failures, the corrupt, and the lazy. To construe that nationalization and absence of profit motive represent movement in the direction of communism seems very much correct. The Politburo at the US Federal Reserve has done its job since irrational exuberance took root. The response in the gold & silver prices to USGovt policies that amplify the damage to the national condition will be profound, with advances to date only a prelude to a march to $2000 gold and $50 silver.

BANKERS FUND FAILURE & FRAUD
For over a year, a clear trend has been set in stone. The USFed and USCongress (aid & abet) have been on course to redeem fraudulent bonds, to fund almost exclusively the largest banks, and to deny credit supply to the mainstream. Unwritten orders were given by the USFed and Goldman Sachs henchmen who dominate the Treasury Dept for banks receiving TARP funds not to lend, but rather to acquire smaller banks in distress. All this while the regulators have been obviously given orders to sit on their hands or to aid the acquisitions and mergers (see the FDIC and Bair efforts). By the way, the FDIC fund is almost empty. The inescapable conclusion is that proper credit supply to profitable and promising enterprise is being obstructed, thus strangling the USEconomy. The nationalization of AIG and Fannie Mae was more designed to hide credit derivative explosions, to bury a mountain of counterfeit bonds, and to prevent a shutdown of perhaps over one hundred thousand businesses. The AIG conglomerate insures 70k individuals, over 100k businesses, and has 74 million customers. Without insurance or bonded coverage, many businesses would have been forced to close operations. The response in the gold & silver prices to misdirection of credit toward failure and fraud, and to exclude the healthy promise of private enterprise will be profound, with advances to date only a prelude to a march to $2000 gold and $50 silver.

A GENERATION OF LOST WEALTH
Much talk has come of a lost decade of wealth. A hint has come in the last few days of a lost generation of wealth, a cry which will reverberate very soon. This is real. This is accurate. This is a legitimate claim. My forecast is for housing prices to fall at least to those seen in 1988-1990, maybe lower. The stock market indexes could easily fall to the same levels they showed during those years, based upon powerful momentum and soured psychology. One should really examine the root causes and likely consequences from diverse liquidation amidst economic deterioration.

The USEconomy can easily be described, as a result of unchecked credit growth combined with financial engineering hidden by a shadow banking system, to have been little more than a phony expansion of a national bubble for a full generation since that important 1971 year, when the USDollar broke ties with gold. The palpable risk is for much of the accumulated wealth for perhaps over 30 years to gradually be lost. If so, then a failure of state is assured. If so, then the national debt in the form of USTreasury Bonds cannot possible remain viable.


The two best single indicators in my view, among numerous, for judging the prospect of such calamities are these. 1) The USTBond credit default swap has risen from a mere one basis point a few years ago to a full 1.0% now. That is a 100-fold rise, and ranks among the worst in the world, along with the United Kingdom. 2) The BKX bank stock index has broken down in repeated fashion, the most recent being a month ago, fully forecasted by the Jackass. Today the Citigroup stock fell below $1 per share. The bank sector leads the stock market lower, and confirms the breakdown below critical support. The response in the gold & silver prices to perceived decades of lost wealth will be profound, with advances to date only a prelude to a march to $2000 gold and $50 silver.

1ST STEP IN RECOVERY - REMOVAL OF WALL STREET
The elite power center is still in charge from Wall Street. Their primary objectives are to avert a credit derivative meltdown, to prevent exposure of a bankrupt dead banking system from proper accounting, and to raid the public till (more bailouts for fraud) as much as is possible. The USFed still refuses to reveal usage of the TARP funds from last autumn, in full defiance. That Goldman Sachs executives continue to appear during official US Dept Treasury announcements on policy is a travesty. TARP fund disbursement, along with control of surly Congressional members, was the job of Goldman Sachs henchmen employed as underlings at Treasury. The travesty continues. The Wall Street syndicate remains in firm control of Treasury. They should be prosecuted, imprisoned, and ordered to give restitution to fraud victims. Instead, they remain in control. The official Stress Tests for big banks constitute yet another charade to endorse the channel of public funds into private banks. The response in the gold & silver prices to continued syndicate control of public funds will be profound, with advances to date only a prelude to a march to $2000 gold and $50 silver.


2ND STEP - END FOREIGN WARS
War costs generally are horrific and serve as principal cause for massive indebtedness to the United States. This has been the case since the Vietnam War. Hundreds of billion$ are annually allocated without question to military budgets, war costs, foreign aid in support of military objectives, and elsewhere, all in crippling fashion. Such chronic spending and industrial diversion has come for a generation without debate. The next annual budget includes yet another sizeable increase for the defense budget.

The war in Afghanistan can be best described as Waterloo with a turban headdress. The emphasis at the national level for construction and destruction has been centered on war initiatives, with shockingly little awareness of the ultimate millstone placed around the national neck for the United States. Iraq Reconstruction Funds have recently been reported to be the object of between $50 and $100 billion in missing funds! Yet this news item was buried on back pages. This has been a wellspring of corrupt slush funds that even touched Henry Kissinger's hands. The reconstruction should be focused within the US. The response in the gold & silver prices to misallocation of priorities and

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Every few weeks gold will have a run up to 1000$ and the tv stations will have a few guys come out a trumpet that gold is going to 2000$. This is your trigger to SELL. At this point the price will probably inexplicably fall back to 900$. That is your BUY point. Wash, rinse, repeat.

Right now gold and the $US are running neck and neck as a safe haven for wealth being pulled out of (formerly) productive companies.
Unlike the $US, gold is a relatitively finite commodity with only small additional amounts being produced each year. However, the $US has become the dominant world trading medium in recent decades since it replaced gold as the measure of a countries reserve wealth. So obviously, a lot of people trust the $US over gold as the safest investment in difficult financial times.

When you compare the two based on the principle of supply and demand, it isn't hard to see where the $US is going. An over-supply of $US on the world market, backed not by production of tradable goods, but rather by an increasing spiral of debt, will eventually lead to a large devaluation of the $US. When large investors see their $US cash reserves shrinking in tradable value there is bound to be a mass exit out of $USs, if not something of an hysterical stampede. And where is the next safe haven to store wealth in troubled financial times? Why its gold of course.
By this time the worlds financial system (which will still be dependant on the $US hegemony for international trade), will be in a state of complete Chaos. The price of gold will go through the roof. Countries, companies and individuals with large investments in $USs will suffer massive losses as the $US plummets in tradable value. The only beneficiary of course will be USA, as their exports become more competitive and its international debt shrinks in relative terms, (but not numerical $ terms). Such is the reasoning behind Obamas current spend, borrow and print policy, IMHO.