Thread: Australian Stuck in Thai Jail

Originally Posted by terry57

Originally Posted by pickel

Regardless of whether or not you believe in free speech, this is no different than somebody getting caught with drugs in this country. He knew the rules and he broke them. Kind of like MKP but much more severe. I don't agree with it, but T.I.T. in the harshest form of reality.

I must agree with this, whether you think its right or wrong only an absolute moron would slight the royal family whilst they are in country.

More than likely figured he was above the law???

Wrong foking call mate.

So we are all under the law and live in constant fear that a few words can lead us to jail, torture and death.
Indeed, something we can celebrate upon.

Originally Posted by Repubblicano

So we are all under the law and live in constant fear that a few words can lead us to jail, torture and death.
Indeed, something we can celebrate upon.

Celebrate upon? Of course not. Be realistic about, maybe.

As far as I am aware, I was not kidnapped and forced to live and work in Thailand. Your case must be differernt.

Originally Posted by bor

However terrible the present is for me, it is more palatable than memories of Melbourne

I never really liked Melbourne much, but why would memories of there be so much less palatable than his present situation?

Originally Posted by Mid

Shameful case of forgotten political prisoner | theage.com.au

Interesting article. Nobody seems to be willing to make a stand or stick their necks out for this guy. I wonder why.

Interesting article. Nobody seems to be willing to make a stand or stick their necks out for this guy. I wonder why.


I guess because

a) He is not linked to any organisation e.g. multinational corporation, media organisation, NGO, government, aristocracy, footy club, etc. i.e. For all intents and purposes, he is a nobody.

b) Australia's links, relationship, treaties, etc. with the Thai government are not worth jeopardising over this issue.

c) Nobody has linked his incarceration with a cause or struggle e.g. mistreatment of Moslem prisoners by the west, anti-communism, etc.

d) He seems to have few friends.

There have been a few articles particularly in the Age. I mean I very much feel for the guy. He must be having a very hard time but if, and it's a big if, he tried this on for self-publicity, he picked the wrong issue at the wrong time. He should have waited till we entered the reign of Rama 10 for a start.

Originally Posted by Chairman Mao

Bloody muzzie Immos. I liked this story in the OPs link. Immigration officer sought sex for visa - Breaking News - National - Breaking News

An immigration officer told a woman she had to have sex with him if he was to approve a visa for her boyfriend, a court has heard.

Afshin Abolfotouh, 41, was jailed for 18 months in Brisbane District Court on Monday over indecent proposals he made to 27-year-old Chinese national Qiao Liyuan in late 2007.


This Afshin arsehole was the one who rejected my wife's permanent residency visa. His decision was eventually overturned by the case review officer. When I say eventually, I mean 10 fucking months.

Originally Posted by goostewart

None of us can alter the law, we should all respect it.

Yeah, let's all crawl under the law, no matter how repugnant it is.
And let's not forget to mock at all the fools who fall into its mincer.

Originally Posted by pickel

Regardless of whether or not you believe in free speech, this is no different than somebody getting caught with drugs in this country. He knew the rules and he broke them. Kind of like MKP but much more severe. I don't agree with it, but T.I.T. in the harshest form of reality.

Well said, I could not agree more. We have to remember that we are all guests in Thailand even if we bring in a lot of money to the country!

Originally Posted by bor

I will never let go of your hand mother and I implore you never to let go of mine.

whiner.

Originally Posted by JoGeAr

Afshin Abolfotouh, 41, was jailed for 18 months in Brisbane District Court on Monday over indecent proposals he made to 27-year-old Chinese national Qiao Liyuan in late 2007.

- Nice name . . . Iranian.

A Brisbane judge has jailed a former Immigration Department official after he tried to force a Chinese national to have sex with him in return for processing a visa application.
The District Court in Brisbane heard 41-year-old Afshin Abolfotouh emigrated from Iran to Australia in 2004 before being employed by the Department of Immigration, where he assessed partner visa applications.
Last year 27-year-old Chinese national Liyuan Qiao applied for a visa for her boyfriend.
She called Albofotouh to ask about her application and was told it was weak.
He also asked her if she would cheat on her partner.
She went to the police, who recorded Albofotouh asking for sex during another phone call.
He was arrested when he arrived at Ms Qiao's home.
Acting Judge Tony Collins jailed Abolfotouh for 18 months, to be released after he serves three months.

** - How pathetic . . . and what is that supposed to mean . . . jailed for 18 months to be released after serving 3 months? What a friggin' joke we have become

Originally Posted by Kikiat2009

that's just wrong, certain jobs should be withheld for recent immigrants.

- I'd tend to agree, but you can't discriminate if someone is a PR, quite rughtly so IMO

Originally Posted by Kikiat2009

(I find the smiley list here hopelessly inadequate btw)

- Open the smilie menu and go all the way down, loads more to choose form

**ABC Brisbane - Ex-immigration officer jailed for sex blackmail

Originally Posted by Repubblicano

[Yeah, let's all crawl under the law, no matter how repugnant it is.And let's not forget to mock at all the fools who fall into its mincer.

Most perceptive comment. Little can be gained by "respecting" such laws. It would be more proper to "fear" those laws. Most of us do.

Originally Posted by mancon

Originally Posted by pickel

Regardless of whether or not you believe in free speech, this is no different than somebody getting caught with drugs in this country. He knew the rules and he broke them. Kind of like MKP but much more severe. I don't agree with it, but T.I.T. in the harshest form of reality.

Well said, I could not agree more. We have to remember that we are all guests in Thailand even if we bring in a lot of money to the country!

And Thais should remember nowhere else in the world guests get jailed for three lines written in a book.

Originally Posted by Repubblicano

And Thais should remember nowhere else in the world guests get jailed for three lines written in a book.

no, sometimes allowing your students to name a teddy bear Mohamed is enough.

Originally Posted by Repubblicano

Thais should remember nowhere else in the world guests get jailed for three lines written in a book.

Stupid bastard should of known better, every body knows the rules regards this stuff so let him suck it up for a while.

Silly tosser wont do it next time.

Originally Posted by Repubblicano

And Thais should remember nowhere else in the world guests get jailed for three lines written in a book.

One point of optimism is that, in most respects, Thais have been keenly sensitive to how they were perceived by more advanced countries. Even past monarchs have been eager to make reforms when subjects of countries such as England considered some of their customs to be "barbaric". Rama IV and Rama V were greatly influenced by western ideas during a time when sweeping changes could be made by decree. Lese Majeste will surely be the last such barbarism to fall into the dustbin of history, but it will happen eventually. The precipitating factor will most likely be the coming succession crisis.

Originally Posted by terry57

Originally Posted by Repubblicano

Thais should remember nowhere else in the world guests get jailed for three lines written in a book.

Stupid bastard should of known better, every body knows the rules regards this stuff so let him suck it up for a while.

Silly tosser wont do it next time.

The book was not even published in Thailand. What right do the Thais have of scouring the world hunting evidence of lese majeste?

Originally Posted by bkkandrew

The book was not even published in Thailand. What right do the Thais have of scouring the world hunting evidence of lese majeste?

I feel that if the Dumbo was silly enough to pen this stuff and then stay in country he has sealed his own fate.

He had been around long enough to know this was a No No under Thai law and whether you like it or not its Thai law and all people in country are bound to it same as English or Australian law.

When in country play the game.

If he wants to play with fire do it from back here and never go back, balls in his court so to speak.

Anyway matey, did you read the post about the Thai that is in serious shit because he or she did not stand up in the picture theater?

Apparently us round eyes are subject to the same treatment so I'd give the theaters a big miss if I was you.

Besides that, Cheers.

Originally Posted by bkkandrew

The book was not even published in Thailand. What right do the Thais have of scouring the world hunting evidence of lese majeste?

An outstandingly excellent point that bothered me some what. So I went and checked (wonderful thing, google). And what I came up with was:

The arrest warrant alleged Nicolaides had insulted the Thai royal family in his second book, Verisimilitude, a novel Nicolaides self-published in Thailand in 2005.

www.theage.com.au - The trouble with Harry

(admittedly, so far I have not been able to corroborate the publisher)



however, perhaps more interestingly:
Yet when he published Verisimilitude three years ago, Nicolaides took the precaution of sending his book to the National Library, the Thai Ministry of Culture, the Thai Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Bureau of the Royal Household to check that its contents were acceptable

The trouble with Harry | theage.com.au

which is a bit difficult to reconsile with the "scouring the world to hunt for evidence".

I wonder how his new year and Christmas were.

Party hats, crackers, turkey till yer fit to burst followed by port and the cheese board?

The whole thing's just a ploy anyway. His next book on '6 months of hell in a Thai prison (for writing a book)' will sell more than his entire back catalogue. And make Thais look like the retards they are on an international stage.

Congrats to both of them.

^ fair point there Mao.

Originally Posted by good2bhappy

It is blasphemy to say he blasphemed. ( He broke the law of defamation)
There is only one God and that is God.
Thou shall not bow down before graven images.

Yes, but some people like to worship "little tin gods" too

Originally Posted by terry57

Originally Posted by Repubblicano

Thais should remember nowhere else in the world guests get jailed for three lines written in a book.

Stupid bastard should of known better, every body knows the rules regards this stuff so let him suck it up for a while.

Silly tosser wont do it next time.

Who are you, Prince Phillip's cousin?