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    Quote Originally Posted by Whiteshiva View Post
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    Is Fox News liberal?
    Fox news is liberal, communist propaganda - they even support common people's right to vote. And look at their newscast - not a single uniform in sight!
    The suits cover the brownshirts....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon View Post
    ^ No. Fair and balanced.
    You're choking on that Kool-Aid today, Jet. Fair and balance translates as Faux Pas {Faux News}.

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    ^ Only to the libbies, dear. Someone has to stand up for real freedom!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon View Post
    ^ Only to the libbies, dear. Someone has to stand up for real freedom!
    OK. I'll bite. Define: real freedom?

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    What they mean by 'real freedom' is license to lie, smear, and denigrate regardless of the facts - just have a look at the posting history of those who scream the loudest about 'freedom' and the 'biased' media.

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    ^^ OK. As long as I have it straight. Heh heh...

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    https://teakdoor.com/us-domestic-issu...as-moment.html

    Media is a business. Objectivity is extinct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texpat View Post
    https://teakdoor.com/us-domestic-issu...as-moment.html

    Media is a business. Objectivity is extinct.
    Indeed. Media exist only to promote mindless consumption. No bloody adverts, no media.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texpat View Post
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    Media is a business. Objectivity is extinct.
    No shit...

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    Quote Originally Posted by spiff View Post
    What they mean by 'real freedom' is license to lie, smear, and denigrate regardless of the facts - just have a look at the posting history of those who scream the loudest about 'freedom' and the 'biased' media.
    No, that's the libbie press.
    Our Canadian papers are flipping libbie; it's just unacceptable. Our local paper posted an AFP article about Eric Holder yesterday, which excluded any info about the Marc Rich affair. I checked the AFP web article and it included it. The problem with the libbie press is that they will report "factual" info but only that which promotes their pick. Anything detrimental is excluded.
    I watch Fox News everyday along with all the leftie media, MSNBC (until I throw up), CBS, ABC, CNN, just to see how they cover the same story (been doing it for years since I worked in PR in Tokyo -- every paper had a different take on events). Sure, Hannity is right to the wall, but he asks some good Qs.
    Besides Fox, who else is mainstream right? Sure, lots of blogs and websites, but name one mainstream right-wing media source in the US, Europe, Britain, or Aisa...oh, the FT. Even the Economist is leaning left these days.
    Of course, the Ed boards have to slant the news to the owner's wishes, but socialists like Olbermann, Maddow and most of the NYT are so blatantly one-sided, it's frightening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon
    but name one mainstream right-wing media source in the US, Europe, Britain, or Aisa
    You are joking, right? You've been in journalism for years and cannot think of any right-leaning media sources?

    The German Axel Springer Group, one of the largest newspaper publishing companies in Europe, is right-wing. Their Bild Zeitung has the largest circulation in Europe.

    The SUN and The Daily Mail are right-leaning and are the largest papers in the UK.

    That's just some which spring to my mind immediately.
    If you wish to claim the media world-wide are biased left-leaning, you'll have to do better than asking others to provide examples to the contrary. I am not going to do your research for you.

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    The discussion about the media is relevant today, as it's always been.

    But look how the internet has changed the we get information. We have greater access to information. Greater access to many more publications in the Mainstream and outside of the mainstream media.

    We are more informed today than we were, say, 20 years ago, 50 years ago, 100 years ago.

    If I want bias, I'll seek it out. If I'm searching for something that attempts to be objective I'll seek that out too. Cautiously, of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spiff
    You are joking, right? You've been in journalism for years and cannot think of any right-leaning media sources?
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    Well Jet?

    Purposefully blind on one eye?

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    ^ What? I was focusing on US press, numnuts. I don't read German. I don't do English tabloids either. If you had said the FT, I would have agreed with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon
    What? I was focusing on US press, numnuts.
    Last time I looked, neither Europe nor Asia were part of the US. From your last comment, above:
    Quote Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon
    but name one mainstream right-wing media source in the US, Europe, Britain, or Aisa...
    I named several - both your ignorance and intellectual dishonesty have been exposed.

    You're owned, doll. lol

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    ^ You're right, I guess I said that, but mea culpa for only reading financial papers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon
    You're right
    Thanks.

    You've been a bit too enthusiastic in extending the allegation of 'liberal' bias across the world.

    Even for the US it is difficult to make a compelling argument, it very much depends on one's point of view and criteria what constitutes an overall bias.

    It is also interesting to have a look at how the media select themes and topics at the expense of dropping others - inevitable given the wealth of info available. I would say this is equally if not more important than in which direction the reporting of these themes are slanted overall. It provides the bandwidth on which attention is focused.
    There are country-specific differences which are easier to see from the outside and portray the general political direction in a more fundamental way than the perceived variations in favouring one part of the party-political spectrum of that country over another.

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    “Obama dozed, people froze.” “President Obama doesn’t care about white people…and neither do the MSM.” Well, that really wouldn't be Lamestream Media fairly covering the news, eh?

    Check this too: Obama and FEMA leave Americans to die in Kentucky. Lamstream Media totally ignoring white people dying. Why 'am I not surprised?
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    The media does have a liberal bias and should indeed have one. Fuck objectivity in reporting. Let there be some bias, and let people make up their own minds.

    Katie Couric single handedly sunk the McCain- Palin Presidential ticket. During that interview it was pretty apparent she was out to destroy Sarah Palin. Katie did a fine job and we are all in her debt for it.

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    OK...but what about those poor people freezing to death in Kentucky?

    Never mind...so long as the Messiah is watching from on high in Washington - it's OK. For whatever the Messiah does is gooood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deck Ape View Post
    The media does have a liberal bias and should indeed have one. Fuck objectivity in reporting. Let there be some bias, and let people make up their own minds.
    Most cannot or will not think for themselves... Baaahhh...

    For those who do think, a biased media that only presents one side of an issue effectively leads people to a conclusion... A decision they might not have made if they were presented all viewpoints...

    Tex is correct in that the media and especially the news agencies in the US are no longer objective... The almighty $$$ determines what gets aired...
    Give a man a match, and he'll be warm for a minute, but set him on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

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    Media, by it's very nature, like any stimulation will be subjective. Remember, when one ask this question towards a medium {generally speaking}, there is a varied and diverse media available that one couldn't place a standardized tag on.

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    Get a load of this!

    Democrat National Convention delegate Terrel Shepherd, evidently too dumb to find NPR on his radio dial, explains why the Unfairness Doctrine should be used to impose Obamunist propaganda on commercial radio stations:
    In recent years it has gotten to where it is almost unsafe for me to drive while listening to all of those radical conservative hate spewers all over the dial.
    I sometimes find myself pressing on the gas a little harder, gripping the wheel a little tighter, and driving more on offense than on defense while trying to listen to those shows. I can literally feel my heart rate and blood pressure elevate as "The Great American," Rush, "The Great One," Prager, Medved, Huiit [sic], Ingraham, Savage are on.…
    It is literally sickening sometimes to listen to. They are all gaseous balls of hate and rage whose only purpose in life is to incite hate, rage and not-so-covert racism with their over-the-top rhetoric. I don't want them silenced because I feel that everyone should be able to express their opinions. I just want to hear an opposing view, and there are none.

    Wonder if I can get Rush out in Suphan?

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    There are literally thousands of examples every day how biased the Lamestream Media is. Kentucky freezes; Obama dines on $100 a pound steak. This guy emails: “What Katrina taught the media was that they could hurt Bush by lying. What 2008 taught them was that they could help Obama by not reporting at all. What will 2009 teach them? I shudder to think.”

    Got that right...

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    Get over it BM - you backed the wrong horse, and most USians wanted a change after 8 years under Bush & Co. Obama, although inexperienced, was by far the best choice you had. Even though he is half-white.

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