Thread: Mass Fraud Fears In US Election

Originally Posted by Norton

Any indication this happens in Australia?

Nothing significant that I've read about Norton, although the parties that get benefited most are doubtless the 'loonie' parties that have no hope anyway. And of course some voters just don't bother filling in their ballots properly, so no vote is registered anyway.

Originally Posted by Norton

it would be better if they just stayed home and not vote at all

Yep.

I don't think the Republicans would have the audacity to steal this election electronically. There will be massive civil unrest if this occurs. The only way to know if this is a stolen election to look at the early evening exit polls, about 7-8pm and compare them to the final results. CNN.COM historically has had good early exit polls. Polling firms will adjust their final exit polls at the end of the night. The early evening polls in the Kerry-Bush 2004 election told me that something fishy was going on. From a 2006 article by Robert Kennedy, Jr:

"For its nationwide poll, Edison/Mitofsky selected a random subsample of 12,219 voters — approximately six times larger than those normally used in national polls — driving the margin of error down to approximately plus or minus one percent. On the evening of the vote, reporters at each of the major networks were briefed by pollsters at 7:54 P.M. Kerry, they were informed, had an insurmountable lead and would win by a rout: at least 309 electoral votes to Bush's 174, with fifty-five too close to call. In London, Prime Minister Tony Blair went to bed contemplating his relationship with President-elect Kerry. As the last polling stations closed on the West Coast, exit polls showed Kerry ahead in ten of eleven battleground states — including commanding leads in Ohio and Florida."




Was the 2004 Election Stolen? : Rolling Stone

Sorry, missed this thread for awhile. I thought the whole point was as long as you have a fixed address and can prove it, you can vote. Look at Acorn giving phony utility bill statements to college kids so they can vote in the place they go to school and then go home and vote there, too.
I remember voting times in Thailand. Half of the people on Samui vanished to go home and vote. They all needed their ID cards to do so. Fine.
And face it, as noted above, most people don't even know who's in the race or what the issues are. Get Acorn or its ilk rounding up homeless, giving them free coffee and smokes and telling them to check Obama on the ballot is not democratic IMO.

A Repeat of 2004 Philly Voter Chaos, Fraud Posted by: Amanda Carpenter at 7:46 AM EXCLUSIVE, DEVELOPING--

GOP Election Board members have been tossed out of polling stations in more than half a dozen polling stations in Philadelphia because of their party status.

A liberal judge previously ruled that court-appointed poll watchers could be NOT removed from their boards by an on-site election judge, but that is exactly what is happening.

It is the duty of election board workers to monitor and guard the integrity of the voting process.

Denying access to the minority (in this case Republican) poll watchers and inspectors is a violation of Pennsylvania state law. Those who violate the law can be punished with a misdemeanor and subjected to a fine of $1,000 and sent to prison between one month and two years.

Those on site as describing it as "pandemonium" and there may be video coming of the chaos.

And there's more...

Last night FOX News 9 in the Twin Cities broadcast a two-part investigation into illegal voter registration by convicted felons. In some cases, they're regisering to vote from prison. What gives? Part 1 is here, part 2 is here.

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

Sorry, missed this thread for awhile. I thought the whole point was as long as you have a fixed address and can prove it, you can vote. Look at Acorn giving phony utility bill statements to college kids so they can vote in the place they go to school and then go home and vote there, too.
I remember voting times in Thailand. Half of the people on Samui vanished to go home and vote. They all needed their ID cards to do so. Fine.
And face it, as noted above, most people don't even know who's in the race or what the issues are. Get Acorn or its ilk rounding up homeless, giving them free coffee and smokes and telling them to check Obama on the ballot is not democratic IMO.

Thanks for the red Jet.

Anyway, what is so difficult in checking SS numbers against a central database to protect against this:

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

Look at Acorn giving phony utility bill statements to college kids so they can vote in the place they go to school and then go home and vote there, too.

Why does this apply in a US election? I thought that the USA was a developed country and a proud democracy:

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

I remember voting times in Thailand. Half of the people on Samui vanished to go home and vote. They all needed their ID cards to do so. Fine.

And why should this be a precursor to being able to vote:

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

as long as you have a fixed address and can prove it, you can vote.

Originally Posted by Texpat

Not all Americans have a social security number

if they pay tax, they do, and if they want to open a bank account, they also need one

I think even illegal immigrants can get one, at least before they could, maybe not now, foreigners, even tourists could get one, of course this has probably changed now but that was the case for a long time,

I have one, took me 2 min to get it, and only a home address or some silly papers, nothing difficult. I was actually amazed how easy it was. It's basically your national serial number.

You can't use social security number in the US for voting because of this precisely, as everyone can get one, even illegal immigrants and tourists and they are not allowed to vote. It's a big mess.

'Mass Fraud Fears In US Election'

Gee,guess it didn't eventuate . . . but at least you tried,

Originally Posted by panama hat

'Mass Fraud Fears In US Election'

Gee,guess it didn't eventuate . . . but at least you tried,

^Too big a margin to cry foul.
Bet the lawyers are crying in their beer.

Well, at least is was not a blow-out but there was massive fraud courtesy of Acorn and George Soros...

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Well, at least is was not a blow-out but there was massive fraud courtesy of Acorn and George Soros...

Your ability to post pics has become legend.

Now that the nearly 2 years of political campaigns are done and you are back to normal hope we'll be seeing some pics threads on your travels in S. America or life on an oil rig.

Massive fraud . . . Give it up, BoonMee.

Actually, you should be proud that the election went the way it did. It shows a certain maturity on behalf of the population and that the US is finally joining the rest of the world in casting off the old and embracing the new.

The world is not black and white anymore, it is all shades of gray . . . look at most of the TD member's children . . . not black, not white . . . the future

Originally Posted by Norton

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Well, at least is was not a blow-out but there was massive fraud courtesy of Acorn and George Soros...

Your ability to post pics has become legend.

Now that the nearly 2 years of political campaigns are done and you are back to normal hope we'll be seeing some pics threads on your travels in S. America or life on an oil rig.

Not before I leave you with this!:



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