Thread: Why Obama Will Lose The Election?

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

Check out the vids in my link on voter fraud, Sabang.

Shall do Jet- but I find it very hard to believe it is as easy as you say to get a false voter registration in the US.

This is the opposite scenario to the 2000 elections, when the Rove strategists realised how critical Florida was, and allegedly with the tacit assistance of Gov. Jeb Bush prevented many qualified people (and no doubt others unqualified) from obtaining voter registration.

The Democrats commit voter fraud by registering dead people, illegal immigrants, etc. In an attempt to counter Democrat fraud the Republicans petition to throw suspected unqualified names off of the voter rolls. Undoubtedly, legitimate registered voters get hurt in the process. One hopes that the efforts by both parties to influence the election are balanced out and that there is a decisive enough win to keep the claims of fraud from becoming an issue.

Pot, kettle, black attaboy-

Timothy Griffin, Karl Rove's assistant, the President's pick as US Attorney for the Eastern District of Arkansas, was the hidden hand behind a scheme to wipe out the voting rights of 70,000 citizens prior to the 2004 election.

Key voters on Griffin's hit list: Black soldiers and homeless men and women. Nice guy, eh? Targeting voters where race is a factor is a felony crime under the Voting Rights Act of 1965.

In October 2004, our investigations team at BBC Newsnight received a series of astonishing emails from Mr. Griffin, then Research Director for the Republican National Committee. He didn't mean to send them to us. They were highly confidential memos meant only for RNC honchos.

However, Griffin made a wee mistake. Instead of sending the emails -- potential evidence of a crime -- to email addresses ending with the domain name "[at]GeorgeWBush.com" he sent them to "[at]GeorgeWBush.ORG." A website run by prankster John Wooden who owns "GeorgeWBush.org." When Wooden got the treasure trove of Rove-ian ravings, he sent them to us.

And we dug in, decoding, and mapping the voters on what Griffin called, "Caging" lists, spreadsheets with 70,000 names of voters marked for challenge. Overwhelmingly, these were Black and Hispanic voters from Democratic precincts.

The Griffin scheme was sickly brilliant. We learned that the RNC sent first-class letters to new voters in minority precincts marked, "Do not forward." Several sheets contained nothing but soldiers, other sheets, homeless shelters. Targets included the Jacksonville Naval Air Station in Florida and that city's State Street Rescue Mission. Another target, Edward Waters College, a school for African-Americans.

If these voters were not currently at their home voting address, they were tagged as "suspect" and their registration wiped out or their ballot challenged and not counted. Of course, these 'cages' captured thousands of students, the homeless and those in the military though they are legitimate voters.
We telephoned those on the hit list, including one Randall Prausa. His wife admitted he wasn't living at his voting address: Randall was a soldier shipped overseas.

Karl Rove's ssistant Busted in Scheme of Massive Voter Fraud

Thats one of the less publicised examples, Florida being the best known.
They busted themselves too notice- it was Republicans that accidentally sent the memo to the wrong hands, no 'Leak' or hearsay involved.

Truth be told, I don't see anyway that Obama can lose this election except voter fraud on a significant scale in strategic states (well, unless he's found to be a closet gay, or has fathered a love child with a white mistress ). Seeing as the evil genius Rove and his minions work for the GOP, I can only hope this is something that the Obama team is keeping a good watch on. It cost the Dem's the Presidency in the 2000 elections, thanks to Florida.

Given the course of history since then, that is absolutely no laughing matter.

^ It thus continues in both camps, Sabang. Wouldn't soldiers need to register for absentee ballots?

Found these:
Florida Law Enforcement aAgency (basics)
The Basic Types Of Fraud Encountered:

FDLE's experience in recent years, including cases predating the 1993 and 1994 "Motor Voter" changes, suggests the areas that are "ripe" for potential fraud fall primarily into these categories:

• Voter Registration Fraud: – Minimal identification and citizenship proof requirements provide ample opportunity for voter registration fraud. This includes specialized "changes of address" done solely to allow a vote in a particular election, when in fact, no actual change of address has occurred.

• Absentee Ballot Fraud: – The desire to facilitate the opportunity for each person to vote has resulted in increased opportunity to use absentee ballots improperly. (Once one has registered fraudulently, he or she can obtain an absentee ballot for every election thereafter if he or she wishes. The lack of "in-person, at-the-polls" accountability makes absentee ballots the "tool of choice" for those inclined to commit voter fraud.)

• Illegally or Improperly "Assisting" Others To Vote Their Absentee Ballot: – Those inclined to do so can capitalize on others' access to an absentee ballot by voting their ballot for them, often with the actual voter not knowing what has occurred. This offers tremendous opportunity for vote fraud, particularly to those who have access to the ill or infirm or those who do not have the ability to resist the influence of another as they are urged to vote in a "required" manner. It also encourages those inclined to commit voter fraud to seek to utilize absentee ballots provided to those whose interest in voting is marginal or non-existent.

• Vote-Buying: - Securing votes by payment or other "rewards" or the "selling of one's vote"– is an age-old problem that still exists.

Florida Voter Fraud Issues

There are so many Dem/Rep sites quoting voter fraud, what to choose from? I like the ones where dead people are voting. Geez take your pick. I searched for democratic and then republican election fraud.

^ Whoever does it, whoever their vote goes to, I despise voter fraud.

Sadly, I am sure their are examples from both sides- Rove's was just on a more organised scale and, if you remove morals from the equation, smarter.

It makes a total mockery of the Democratic process, and the democratic ethos.

^ From what I've been reading, it's more of the third-party affiliates doing most of this slime work on the parties' respective behalf.

Originally Posted by sabang

Karl Rove's ssistant Busted in Scheme of Massive Voter Fraud

Yep, Karl Rove is a f'n twat

Well, it's all a question of character isn't it? BO has too much baggage and it's catching up with him. This election is far from a cake-walk for this guy:

"Obama's radical pals shed light on his cynicism, his ruthlessness, and his tolerance for the obscene."

"Convicted felon Tony Rezko. Unrepentant terrorist Bill Ayers. And the race-baiting Rev. Jeremiah Wright. It is hard to think of any presidential candidate before Barack Obama sporting associations with three more execrable characters. Yet let the McCain campaign raise the issue, and the mainstream media begin fulminating about dirty campaigning tinged with racism and McCarthyite guilt by association.

But associations are important. They provide a significant insight into character. They are particularly relevant in relation to a potential president as new, unknown, opaque, and self-contained as Obama. With the economy overshadowing everything, it may be too late politically to be raising this issue. But that does not make it, as conventional wisdom holds, in any way illegitimate."

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=Y2JlODdmNmFiMDE3MDdlZjVkZWJiN2M0NDg1ZTMwZmE=

It ain't over 'till the rotund lady sings and she's not even warming up yet.

Mcain sells his soul to the devil....

this is simply disgraceful behaviour from a desperate man and his ho.

"...I inhaled frequently. That was the point." --

Mcain is racist by association......

"I had learned not to care. I blew a few smoke rings, remembering those years. Pot had helped, and booze; maybe a little blow when you could afford it. Not smack, though. ..." -- Barack Obama

"Who's got time to go to the fruit stand? Who can afford it, first of all?" -- Michelle Obama

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

"...I inhaled frequently. That was the point.

Yes indeed that was the point back then wasn't it? He get's my vote.

Can you imagine Johnny or Sarah inhaling?

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

Can you imagine Johnny or Sarah inhaling?

she popped hers so no need to inhale...

(referencing mrs mc)

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

Can you imagine Johnny or Sarah inhaling?

I can at least imagine Sarah having an orgasm.

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

Can you imagine Johnny or Sarah swallowing?

earl, you nasty....

Tip: Two Big Stories About ACORN Fraud in Ohio About to Hit... Don't Be Frontin': The Radical New Party Obama Was Once a Member of and Project Vote, Whom Obama Admits Working For, Share Same Office with... ACORN

10,000 duplicate/fraudulent registrations in Hamilton County (Cincinnati) and around 8000 bad registrations in Cuyahoga County (Cleveland). Cincinnati story should be out tomorrow, Cleveland one Sunday or Monday.
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Seems Obama's ties to ACORN are a bit harder to deny -- he was actually a member of ACORN's own fucking political party.
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Could you pack radicalism, thuggery, Obama's sketchy past as a "community organizer" and his persona responsibility for the subprime meltdown into a tighter little package?

I didn't see this coming. A gang of community organizers that Obama served as a trainer and lawyer for who not only are responsible for systematic and repellent voter fraud but are also central to the subprime mortgage crisis?

Is the Messiah toast?

Oops the Massiah thing stings

The Bill Ayers/Obama Idea Of Education

...ponder on what the education system will look like under a President Obama administration...

^Stamp out homelessness! OK. Good idea. Get a fekin job is a good start.

Any y'all notice the Libtards are absent from comment in this here thread?

...get a rope...heh

Ray is pretty quiet...

Originally Posted by britmaveric

Ray is pretty quiet...

Beth took away his posting privileges...?