Thread: Oliver Stone's Film, "W"

Originally Posted by Butterfly

Originally Posted by "Boon Mee"

Portrays Dubya in the lowest light possible

quite a challenge to do otherwise, the guy has been a total failure all his life, from A to Z, how could someone portray him otherwise ?

Yep, must be the crowning disappointment of anyone's life to become President of the US. Stick to economics, buttfrier, at least that's a subject in which you can sound convincing.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

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The movie - from reviews I've read, is a load of ca ca. Portrays Dubya in the lowest light possible. Basically, another hit piece. Oliver Stone should stick with making movies about his hero's like Fidel Castro/Che Guevara etc...

can you portray Duh-bya in a positive light for us, with examples?

name 1 thing he has done that has had a positive outcome.

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

Originally Posted by Butterfly

, the guy has been a total failure all his life,

Fighter pilot, Harvard MBA, two term governor of Texas (re-elected with 69%)
two term President of the USA.
Yes I'd say he's a real big failure alrighty!

I wonder what success looks like?

Fuedalism alive and well in the USA. Grandfather rich nazi banker, father head of the CIA. Dumbalya never had to lift a finger to "succeed".

Originally Posted by Milkman

From the comments above, I agree. I also see this as some cheap form of "entertainment" or criticism.

There are at least 17 books out on George W. Bush, and he isn't even finished in office yet. After his term end, there may be some more honesty and detail about the administration from the senior advisors, etc., who love to pen "memoirs."

My point: any movie is limited, and this one will be, too.

I'm not an Oliver Stone fan when it comes to 1. history and 2. historical stuff, he's done.

I did like Wall Street and its main writer is the same guy who has written "W."

Do you think Bill Clinton's press secretary Mike McCurry will ever write a book? The guy seems to be sworn to silence.

Originally Posted by foreigner

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

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The movie - from reviews I've read, is a load of ca ca. Portrays Dubya in the lowest light possible. Basically, another hit piece. Oliver Stone should stick with making movies about his hero's like Fidel Castro/Che Guevara etc...

can you portray Duh-bya in a positive light for us, with examples?

name 1 thing he has done that has had a positive outcome.

This ain't too shabby: 140,000 sq. miles of marine preserve

About the Papahanaumokuakea Marine National Monument

Too bad he didn't have time to bring this to fruition: 776.000 sq. miles of marine preserve

Pristine Islands to Be Protected Video -- National Geographic

...if it wasn't for...if it wasn't for...

hehe...who ever would have made it to the top - if it wasn't for...?



oh well, I'm sure many on here are happy to support any bitter and envious cheerleader.



Btw not playing at all, your rules confuse me.

Originally Posted by keda

who ever would have made it to the top - if it wasn't for...?

looking for your daddy help at over 50 is hardly an accomplishment by any measure,

If you want to be an apologist, try someone else who at least worth it, supporting an inferior leader like GW Bush does say much about the character of his supporters,

Originally Posted by Butterfly

Originally Posted by "keda"

who ever would have made it to the top - if it wasn't for...?

looking for your daddy help at over 50 is hardly an accomplishment by any measure,

If you want to be an apologist, try someone else who at least worth it, supporting an inferior leader like GW Bush does say much about the character of his supporters,

You made the announcement, not me, to the effect that he'd be a useless good for nothing - if it wasn't for...if it wasn't for?

Now you backtrack and divert from your own desperate though feeble attempt to denigrate the most powerful man in the world, who btw earned the position. Oh, and even if your standard chorus has any basis in fact, that he cheated, then at least made it as a contender...there you go, even more for you to cling to in pathological denial.

If you don't like him then say so. There are many intelligent people on TD, and it's sad that you need to cheerlead for the intellectually challenged that cannot see through and readily fall for such crap.

Never met you, but I imagine you to be a very bitter person, insecure and with nobody to blame but the rest of the world for your own failings and missed opportunity.

Originally Posted by keda

Now you backtrack and divert from your own desperate though feeble attempt to denigrate the most powerful man in the world, who btw earned the position

I am having a hard time following your logic about how I am backtracking ??? maybe you could explain yourself ? or is your name AA and have no logic in your accusations ?

Originally Posted by keda

even more for you to cling to in pathological denial.

No, that would be you sorry. I mean what kind of person would keep supporting such a failure and think of him as some kind of hero ?

Originally Posted by keda

If you don't like him then say so.

I don't like him as a president because he is unfit to be president, it's that simple. He is a disgrace to the presidency.

Originally Posted by keda

insecure and with nobody to blame but the rest of the world for your own failings and missed opportunity.

See my point about the quality of characters of those who support him. As soon as they have no arguments to explain themselves, they start the attack mode. Keda, thanks for proving my point, you are a proud supporter of GW Bush and that speaks volume about your character. Nobody is perfect, so no need to go into attack mode