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    ^^ What an angry little Roady.

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    PRAY FOR CANADA
    I'll get right on that!

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    Roady is gayfrenchiefly's new nic?

    MS-Such anger. What exactly are you angry about and why?

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    One that can stay in Thailand long term, with no qualifications, add nothing to the Thai education system and drink every day..

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    come back, bruce. don't be embarrassed. we all have our ass handed to us on occasion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Controversial
    Thai education system

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    Quote Originally Posted by Accidental Ajarn
    MS-Such anger. What exactly are you angry about and why?
    Anger, what anger?
    Last edited by MisterStretch; 08-09-2008 at 04:34 AM.

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    "I laugh at you...hear me? I laugh at you."

    Oh, this is not anger?

    Easy solution. Don't like Bruce's course, don't take it. So, all your problems are now solved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Accidental Ajarn
    "I laugh at you...hear me? I laugh at you."
    Not anger, ridicule. Several of his contentions fly in the face of professional approaches to language instruction, in my experience and opinion.

    I know nothing of Bruce's courses. I've never taken one of his courses so I can't comment on them.

    I have had the misfortune to work with and interview some of his graduates, though.

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    "Several of his contentions fly in the face of professional approaches to language instruction, in my experience and opinion."

    So you are Mr. know it all English Teacher?

    "I have had the misfortune to work with and interview some of his graduates, though."

    Ah, are you trying to say because some people spent 4 weeks of their 30 or 40 years in Bruce's school they are now useless?

    Fuck dude, get a life. You are taking your being an English teacher a little too seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Accidental Ajarn
    So you are Mr. know it all English Teacher?
    Interesting that you like to disagree with anyone who does not follow your version of events...

    gonna stalk him and claim that you've humiliated him also?



    Quote Originally Posted by Accidental Ajarn
    Fuck dude, get a life. You are taking your being an English teacher a little too seriously.
    So are you AA.

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    That's 'cos one is a professional and the other's not.

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    WTF?

    You seriously have a problem.

    Enjoy your "stalking?" What is the purpose?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bruceveld View Post
    I spent 13 years of my life studying general subject matter with "qualified" teachers. Then I went to university and all of my teachers were apparently "unqualified" because they had never studied Education, just specialized in their field of study. That went on for the rest of my education, right through my MBA (which,according to some websites, I really do not have lol). Some of these teachers were horrible in the classroom. But they were experts in their field of study. They could have REALLY sued some teacher training, though.
    University lecturers are not teachers! Studying at university should be almost entirely self-motivated and self-led. Hence they do not require teacher training in the same way that a primary school teacher would. Strewth, isn't that obvious Bruce?

    Quote Originally Posted by bruceveld View Post
    Now, lets take a look at the poor TEFLers you guys like to disparrage so often. All of us natie speakers are experts at the English language. Our usage level is Native and completely fluent. And if we have any kind of decent education we should be able to spell and string together a sentence or two. Believe it or not, we are experts in English language compared to the rest of the world.

    Now, can we teach? Teaching language is quite different than teaching other subjects.
    Are you an expert on teaching other subjects?
    Quote Originally Posted by bruceveld View Post
    Good teachers get a great deal of student participation. If you get some training, even as little as four weeks, will give many some basic skills that can make them successful English teachers. Will four weeks be ALL we need? Of ocurse not. Thats just a drivers permit to teaching english. All good teachers learn through their expereinces how to continually improve their teaching techniques and, obviously, more training is better than less training.
    The minimum for a "drivers permit"? I beg to differ. I do not think that this four-week requirement came from being assessed as a minimum benchmark. I am sure that it came purely from the vast majority of English teachers not wanting to spend time and money on training for such a transient and poorly paid profession.

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    ^

    And your point is?

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    Erm, well, I guess it's "Bruce has been out in the sun too long"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smeg
    The minimum for a "drivers permit"? I beg to differ. I do not think that this four-week requirement came from being assessed as a minimum benchmark. I am sure that it came purely from the vast majority of English teachers not wanting to spend time and money on training for such a transient and poorly paid profession.
    What background/experience do you have to offer an informed opinion? A few hours teaching in a McDonalds? What do you know about teachers motivations since, from what I understand, you've never been a teacher?

    I would dare say there are teachers here in Thailand making more money than you are back in merry ole England.

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    ^ I have this Postgraduate Certificate in Education - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    and this Qualified Teacher Status - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    And you?

    Do you have anything to say about what I wrote rather than sticking up for Bruce as usual by trying to discredit me?

    And since I have been in Thailand for the past 3.5 years, you clearly know shit.

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    PGCE in what?
    Now teaching what?

    Just asking

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    Want a resume while you are at it?

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    ^ no thanks. I was simply interested to see if your PGCE had got anything to do with the job you're doing now.

    Pretty easy question to answer, I'd have thought.

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    ^ It might have been if it was any of your business or of any relevance whatsoever to my replies to bruce about university lecturers and 4-week TEFL courses.

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    Ah OK. Well thanks anyway. It's obviously a sensitive area for you. Less said the better.
    Cheers.

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    ^

    Presumably you are quite happy to answer all personal questions from anybody on the forum asked for any reason whatsoever. I'll look forward to that. Or are you just another bored thread-trasher?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smeg
    ^ Screwball
    What a strange reaction to a perfectly civil question and response.
    I must apologise if I upset you. It wasn't intended.

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