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    OK, I'm piggy-backing off of the MSM. I think Biden will be the pick. He travelled to Tblisi, Georgia a couple of days ago. He'll bring the "international and foreign policy experience" card to the table. I don't really care. In 4 days, we'll likely know Obama's choice as the Demo Convention (of silliness) nears.
    Guessing grows over US running mates

    By Edward Luce and Andrew Ward in Washington

    Published: August 17 2008 18:51 | Last updated: August 17 2008

    Barack Obama and John McCain enter their final week before the start of the US presidential nominating conventions amid intense speculation about who they plan to choose as their respective running mates – with Mr Obama almost certain to make his choice in the next few days.

    Mr Obama, whose four-day Democratic convention starts next Monday in Denver, will this week attend election rallies and “town hall” meetings in the swing states of New Mexico, Florida, North Carolina and Virginia – any of which could provide a potential venue to announce his pick.

    Obama aides deny any knowledge of the possible timing or venue of what is traditionally the most closely guarded secret in a presidential campaign. But veteran Democratic operatives say the choice is likely by Thursday. The Republican convention in Minneapolis starts in two weeks.

    “Obama cannot announce during the Denver convention and it makes no sense in terms of the news cycle to announce during a weekend,” said one Democrat with no ties to the Obama campaign. “So I would be very surprised if he left it later than Thursday.”
    Link: FT.com / In depth - Guessing grows over US running mates

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    Oops. Tried to put the Vegas odds in but it didn't work so well. Nobody will take bets on Biden.
    Any thoughts for McCain's VP? Crist? (without a phony tan would be good) Pawlenty?
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    I'll take a guess on Joe Biden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang
    I'll take a guess on Joe Biden.
    too late...jet 'called it'.


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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sabang
    I'll take a guess on Joe Biden.
    too late...jet 'called it'.
    I think McCain's going to take Midwesterner and (faux?) populist Tim Pawlenty from Minnesota. If McCain can win Minnesota, he can even lose Ohio and take the election. It makes Obama even more vulnerable in the other Midwest swing states like Iowa, Michigan and Wisconsin. Gotta agree on the Biden call. He's a moderate, high-profile Washington insider who can allay voters' fears about the inexperienced Obama. Personally, I think Obama should pick Chuck Hagel, because Hagel's a pissed-off Republican and Obama needs pissed-off Republicans to make up for the redneck Democrats who can't get themselves to vote for a person of African ancestry. Hegal would also bring in much of the anti-war, fiscally conservative, civil libertarian Ron Paul vote, a small but very active political constituency. It would also make a strong statement that Obama is truly interested in reversing the nasty polarization that's infected the American political scene for decades.

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    I agree with you FP, on Biden. I too, like Chuck Hagel, but I now doubt he'll be chosen.

    McCain to win Minnesota? Good scenario, but I don't think McCain will get MN, no matter who he gets.

    I do predict (sadly) that McCain will win Ohio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by floorpotato
    I think Obama should pick Chuck Hagel, because Hagel's a pissed-off Republican and Obama needs pissed-off Republicans to make up for the redneck Democrats who can't get themselves to vote for a person of African ancestry. Hegal would also bring in much of the anti-war, fiscally conservative, civil libertarian Ron Paul vote, a small but very active political constituency. It would also make a strong statement that Obama is truly interested in reversing the nasty polarization that's infected the American political scene for decades.
    hagel would be an interesting choice, but i find it hard to believe that obama would choose someone who thinks the govt. should determine what types of medical procedures women are allowed to have.

    oh btw, you can't say biden would be a good choice because jet already 'called it' a couple of days ago.

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    ^ *giggle* way before you, too, rc. Poor dear.
    Still. our picks won't be theirs.

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    you just don't get it jet, do you?

    you haven't "called" anything...you're simply parroting what you read somewhere else (biden) or the blatantly obvious (that race would be an issue once obama got the nomination).

    but, whatever gets you through the night.

    VP Picks19-08-2008 12:13 AMJet Gorgonyou sure now? I picked Biden (see post 2) several days ago; you don't want to be a copycat of me now, do you rc? 555

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    ^ I really pity you, rc. Many great posters here have opinions and views that differ but make sense.
    If you quit lambasting people in emotional, personal attacks instead of differing in terms of their arguments, I would have some respect for you. You don't, so I have no respect for you.
    Don't forget, I said BO would likely be killed before the prez vote.
    Nice that you picked Biden several days after I did.

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    OK,

    I'm sticking my neck out. There are rumors that Evan Bayh of Indiana will be the VP. You heard it here first.

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    MM "called it"!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkman View Post
    OK,

    I'm sticking my neck out. There are rumors that Evan Bayh of Indiana will be the VP. You heard it here first.
    The disclosure narrowed the window Obama has to reveal his running mate. The list of possibilities is widely believed to be down to Delaware Sen. Joe Biden, Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius, Indiana Sen. Evan Bayh and Virginia Gov. Tim Kaine, who planned to campaign with Obama Thursday in his home state.
    We'll see my friend if you are the true clairvoyant.

    Obama and veep choice to campaign on Saturday - Yahoo! News

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    Quote Originally Posted by chinthee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Milkman View Post
    OK,

    I'm sticking my neck out. There are rumors that Evan Bayh of Indiana will be the VP. You heard it here first.
    The disclosure narrowed the window Obama has to reveal his running mate. The list of possibilities is widely believed to be down to Delaware Sen. Joe Biden, Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius, Indiana Sen. Evan Bayh and Virginia Gov. Tim Kaine, who planned to campaign with Obama Thursday in his home state.
    We'll see my friend if you are the true clairvoyant.

    Obama and veep choice to campaign on Saturday - Yahoo! News
    Wish me luck, CT. If wrong I may hear about it for a while.

    BTW, Biden told reporters today that he is "not the man," and doesn't "know who will be the VP." I believe him in that he wouldn't outright lie, if he was indeed going to be the VP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkman
    Evan Bayh of Indiana
    i don't have a link handy, but there was something on politico yesterday about bayh not being selected because of his wife's business dealings. i'll take a look for it later. but who knows, maybe it was just a smoke screen from the obama campaign....or a reporter who has no idea what's on about.

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    Does this eliminate the ladies? Could be. Or is he just throwing us off. Hillary or Kathleen might just be sitting back enjoying all the hubbub. Let's not forget Chaney was heading Bush's VP selection team and look what happened there. Even the young Kennedy is possible?

    "When is a pronoun more than just a part of speech? A missing word in a standard response delivered by presumptive Democratic nominee Barack Obama Tuesday night sent political reporters scrambling.
    The Illinois senator has been careful this campaign season to refer to his future running mate as “he or she,” to avoid sending unintentional signals about which party figures may or may not be in the running.
    But asked at a North Carolina town hall meeting whether he would use a future vice president the same way President Bush has, Obama referred to just one gender. "Let me tell you first what I won’t do,” he said. “I won’t hand over my energy policy to my vice president, without knowing necessarily what he’s doing.""


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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey
    MM "called it"!
    Quote Originally Posted by Milkman
    I think Biden will be the pick
    Quote Originally Posted by Milkman
    Evan Bayh of Indiana
    Twice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkman View Post
    BTW, Biden told reporters today that he is "not the man," and doesn't "know who will be the VP." I believe him in that he wouldn't outright lie, if he was indeed going to be the VP.
    Yep, but he was laughing the whole time. You never know, like Norts noted, BO may pick Hilly. Hey, just send Bill to be ambassador of Botswana. That would work.

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    I reckon Biden would be a tremendous pick, due to his time spent in the capitol, and his foreign affairs experience in particular.

    Really, when you remove all the Dross from the anti-Obama hype, what valid criticism remains? Only his lack of foreign affairs experience, and maybe the fact he's a one term senator (although this is piffling).

    p.s:- How much combined foreign affairs experience did the Cheney/Bush tag team have?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    p.s:- How much combined foreign affairs experience did the Cheney/Bush tag team have?
    They didn't need any. They just needed the courts on their side to steal the elections.
    Same goes for McCain. If it's going to be close The same will happen this year.
    So it really doesn't matter who Barry picks as a running mate. The big power brokers aren't going to deal him in in any event.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkman
    BTW, Biden told reporters today that he is "not the man," and doesn't "know who will be the VP." I believe him in that he wouldn't outright lie, if he was indeed going to be the VP.
    Agree. It would be an outrage to have a VP who is a liar!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Milkman
    BTW, Biden told reporters today that he is "not the man," and doesn't "know who will be the VP." I believe him in that he wouldn't outright lie, if he was indeed going to be the VP.
    Agree. It would be an outrage to have a VP who is a liar!
    Yes. Now, this would be the first time a politician would lie to us.

    Which morning, US time, will the VP decision be announced.

    I am predicting, Friday morning, US time.

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    Jet Gorgon:

    To respond to your query on McCain's VP pick, I don't have much of an idea but will throw out my hunches (which are usually wrong).

    1. Romney
    2. Lieberman

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    rumour has it we will know Obi's running mate on Thursday

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    Quote Originally Posted by good2bhappy View Post
    rumour has it we will know Obi's running mate on Thursday
    OK. That means, late tonight in South East Asia - tonight - we'll know.

    On Saturday Obama has said he'll stump with the new VP running mate, so tonight would make sense. There would be be two full work-days of coverage.

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