Don't get ripped off by Thai schools

**Smeg** · 18-08-2008, 09:14 PM

Originally Posted by bruceveld

Originally Posted by Smeg

Originally Posted by bruceveld

I could do anything I wanted and it would be none of your f$#%ing business. So my suggestion would be to change the tone of your questions next time or you will NOT get an answer.

You start a DISCUSSION thread to tell the world about your private life and how clever you are and then get shitty and start swearing when people don't agree. Headcase....

Hey dumbass, I started the thread because there was a long thread about international schools and how expensive they are so I decided to be helpful and tell people an alternative that they may not have thought of.

This clearly does not benefit me. Its just me participating in a public forum to help a few other people out there who might have kids like me and might be searching for options.

That still does not give you (or anyone) the right to question MY decisions with MY kids. YOu want to have a general discussion abot kids in general, great. You want to ask me questions? Fine. You want to make this some kind of Trial of Bruce, especially since you do not know me or my kids, F%$K off.

But, of course, I say that in the nicest possible way.

You made this thread personal, not me. You could have quite easily passed on your wonderful idea to the idiots who couldn't come up with it themself without referring to your own kids and without starting a new thread that is personal to you.

**Smeg** · 18-08-2008, 09:19 PM

Originally Posted by dirtydog

smeg whats the matter? won't kk play with you anymore

I used to play with bruce long before kk. I first got to know kk because (like the slimey little scumbag he is) he showed up to give bruce a kick or two when he was down after a long cyber-slog with me.

**bruceveld** · 18-08-2008, 09:20 PM

Originally Posted by Smeg

You made this thread personal, not me. You could have quite easily passed on your wonderful idea to the idiots who couldn't come up with it themself without referring to your own kids and without starting a new thread that is personal to you.

Dearest Smeg:

Thank you for your worthless and pointless opinion on how you think I should have started this thread. I have noted it and will consider it carefully.

now go find another thread where you have SOMETHING to say.

BYE

**bruceveld** · 18-08-2008, 09:24 PM

Originally Posted by Camel Toe

What did you do to upset the Jewish Defense League? Something about students parading around dressed as Nazis?

On 30 October 2000, President Clinton signed Public Law 106-395, the "Child Citizenship Act of 2000". This bill, which took effect on 27 February 2001, made two changes to the laws pertaining to naturalization.

* A child (under 18) -- natural or adopted -- of a US citizen, who is living in the US with his/her American parent as a permanent resident (i.e., "green card" holder), is automatically a US citizen, without any need to apply for naturalization. Children who already met these requirements as of 27 February 2001 became US citizens automatically on that date. This provision also means that a minor child of an alien permanent resident (or residents) automatically becomes a US citizen upon the naturalization of either parent.

* A child (again, under 18, and either natural or adopted) of a US citizen, who lives outside the US, can be naturalized if either a parent or grandparent has fulfilled a five-year US physical presence requirement (including at least two years after the parent's or grandparent's 14th birthday). The child (along with his/her American parent) must travel to the US in order to be naturalized, but this can be done on a temporary visit and need not involve immigration as a permanent resident. One key difference between this provision and a similar provision in Public Law 103-416 is that the child's parent or grandparent can now fulfill the US physical presence requirement after the child's birth. Under the 1994 law, US presence by the parent or grandparent after the child's birth was irrelevant.

Note, in both of these cases, that the child's US citizenship is not retroactive to his/her birth. Thus, there is still a difference between these situations and the "natural-born" cases provided for by INA 301 [8 USC § 1401].

After living in Asia for 18 years, how did you pull this off?

Let me explain from the beginning, OK?

OK first you need to find a GIRL. GIRLS are different than BOYS. Boys have a penis, girls have a vagina. If you are already confused, ask mommy.

Next you have to have SEX. Go to Pantip and pick up some "X VDO". Watch and learn.

next you have to do THAT with a GIRL. No, really, its the ONLY way.

Finally, if you manage to do all that right, 9 months after a baby comes from her tummy.

When all that happens (and my guess is that it will be years if it ever does at all), send me a PM. I wil lbe very happy to help.

**Smeg** · 18-08-2008, 09:24 PM

Be seeing you then darling

**Texpat** · 18-08-2008, 09:27 PM

Good info Bruce.

Educating our children is important and too many options are always better than too few.

Have a green.

**Smeg** · 18-08-2008, 09:36 PM

^ so where is my green for highlighting the downsides that Bruce in his perfection would find it impossible to mention?

**bruceveld** · 18-08-2008, 09:40 PM

Originally Posted by Smeg

^ so where is my green for highlighting the downsides that Bruce in his perfection would find it impossible to mention?

Several people had questions about how it was working and I answered. So far so good. After all, it wasn't working we would not continue and I certainly would not be here advocating it!

Only a few jerks tried to make this into an anti-Bruce thread.

Repent Smeg, repent!!

**Texpat** · 18-08-2008, 09:49 PM

Have a red smeg for being a twat.

Bruce never claimed his system was perfect, only that it seems to be working for him, for now. I'm sure others in his situation might appreciate hearing the advantages and disadvantages of alternative options.

Why are you being such a twat? Does it pain you to see people taking an imperfect situation and tweaking it to make their lives better?

**Smeg** · 18-08-2008, 09:55 PM

^ It's called a discussion. Are people who don't agree with the OP's idea banned from stating why? Have a red back, arsehole.

**bruceveld** · 18-08-2008, 09:59 PM

"Do you deny" that you would not have the same issues with some unknown poster?

"Do you deny" that you make it your personal (kinda sick) passtime to harass TESOL course providers?

No need to answer, we already know.....

**Camel Toe** · 18-08-2008, 10:01 PM

So Bruise, how did you pull off a dual citizenship?

**Indoexile** · 18-08-2008, 10:03 PM

Originally Posted by bruceveld

And if I could I would be very concerned about drugs and social problems.

erm this was mentioned before as a reason that a local school it better than a good international one.

the drug problems they face are not because of the school, got more to do with the kids already going there.

**bruceveld** · 18-08-2008, 10:03 PM

Originally Posted by Camel Toe

So Bruise, how did you pull off a dual citizenship?

Do you want a real answer or are you just here being a dick?

**Smeg** · 18-08-2008, 10:04 PM

Here is a request to do something that you more than most hate to do, Bruce. Make this thread fully informative by giving a balanced review of your actions and tell us the downsides, as you see them.

I had to step in to play devil's advocate because as usual you only tell one side of the story (the side that makes you look so clever)

**Camel Toe** · 18-08-2008, 10:08 PM

Originally Posted by bruceveld

Originally Posted by Camel Toe

So Bruise, how did you pull off a dual citizenship?

Do you want a real answer or are you just here being a dick?

A real answer, please. And include the Jewish Defense thing if you wish. I want to know all about you.

**bruceveld** · 18-08-2008, 10:11 PM

Originally Posted by Indoexile

Originally Posted by bruceveld

And if I could I would be very concerned about drugs and social problems.

erm this was mentioned before as a reason that a local school it better than a good international one.

the drug problems they face are not because of the school, got more to do with the kids already going there.

you are absolutely right, Indo. Its not lSB is handing out the drugs! But many students at international schools have a lot of disposable income and are relatively unsupervised.

I don't care whose fault it is. As a parent it is my job to protect my children from situations they are too young to handle. And as someone who did have a drug problem at 13 (thats another story) I would worry about the amount of drugs that are being used at these international schools and if my child fell into the wrong crowd.

**bruceveld** · 18-08-2008, 10:14 PM

Originally Posted by Smeg

Here is a request to do something that you more than most hate to do, Bruce. Make this thread fully informative by giving a balanced review of your actions and tell us the downsides, as you see them.

I had to step in to play devil's advocate because as usual as you only tell one side of the story (the side that makes you look so clever)

So far, for my kids, it seems to have worked great. But how can you really know? They are happy, intelligent and relate well to other children and to adults. is this IN SPITE OF their schooling or BECAUSE OF it? How can I really know?

**Indoexile** · 18-08-2008, 10:16 PM

Originally Posted by bruceveld

But many students at international schools have a lot of disposable income and are relatively unsupervised.

exactly, naught to do with the school.

Originally Posted by bruceveld

I would worry about the amount of drugs that are being used at these international schools

erm, I think you'll find that they arent using the drugs AT school.

and are you saying that poorer schools dont have drug problems?

naive comment if so.

just the richer kids can afford to play with more expensive drugs, aint any safer or better really.

**Smeg** · 18-08-2008, 10:17 PM

^^ What is "intelligence"? Skills, knowledge, or common sense?

Anyway, your tale is an interesting case study. How old are they now?

**Indoexile** · 18-08-2008, 10:18 PM

BTW - if you found a well qualified/experienced teacher to do this job, are you able to give them a work permit for this job?

**bruceveld** · 18-08-2008, 10:21 PM

Originally Posted by Camel Toe

Originally Posted by bruceveld

Originally Posted by Camel Toe

So Bruise, how did you pull off a dual citizenship?

Do you want a real answer or are you just here being a dick?

A real answer, please. And include the Jewish Defense thing if you wish. I want to know all about you.

Jewish Defense thing? NO IDEA.

All Americans living abroad who have children can submit a form called something like "American Birth Abroad". you submit that along with your passport and the birth cirtificate to the embassy. They usually interview you, too. If everything seems legit they issue a passport. The children are NOT naturalized. they aare US citizens from birth, just born abroad.

**Smeg** · 18-08-2008, 10:23 PM

^^ A good point. Bruce has already stated that this is illegal (i presume the not attending school issue). It doesn't, to me, show a good role model, which is an important part of education, by breaking the law to provide the education itself.

**bruceveld** · 18-08-2008, 10:24 PM

Originally Posted by Indoexile

Originally Posted by bruceveld

But many students at international schools have a lot of disposable income and are relatively unsupervised.

exactly, naught to do with the school.

Originally Posted by bruceveld

I would worry about the amount of drugs that are being used at these international schools

erm, I think you'll find that they arent using the drugs AT school.

and are you saying that poorer schools dont have drug problems?

naive comment if so.

just the richer kids can afford to play with more expensive drugs, aint any safer or better really.

I have been in thailand for 12 years now and I can say for a certainty that kids at international schools use far more drugs than kids at a typical provincial Thai school. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind.

**bruceveld** · 18-08-2008, 10:26 PM

Originally Posted by Smeg

^^ What is "intelligence"? Skills, knowledge, or common sense?

Anyway, your tale is an interesting case study. How old are they now?

13, 11 and 10

I anticipate they will do more out-of-school reading on their own and do less home schooling (if any) once they pass M3.

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