Thread: American teacher falls from condo rooftop

it would take great strength as a parent to accept the death of ones child as being purposeful.

Give TD a day or two and we will try to find out some more details.

RIP

Originally Posted by deathstardan

The moral of all these stories is...live on the ground floor!

These jumpers will just go to a top floor or roof, to take themselves out.

Originally Posted by goostewart

I realise that some of them are certainly suicide, but some must be murders also.

So what? How many people have made the paper over the last 4 years alone having died in strange circumstances. Do you really want to have it as a murder when you cannot catch the murderer? What would that do to the image of the country?

Guy commits suicide, plastic bag over the head with his hands tied behind his back.

How many people have not hired private investigators to investigate the death of a family member in Thailand. What was it 10% of all British deaths abroad occur in Thailand? The Brit who drowned in Pattaya - his mother hired a private investigator and what became of that - nothing. Have we forgot the two Korean women who died on Koh Larn island not too long ago.That was also suicide 48 hours later.

Originally Posted by hillbilly

Give TD a day or two and we will try to find out some more details.

though this post was undoubtedly made in kindness i would suggest that ms jgwise take no solace from it. obtain genuine, connected and trustworthy advocacy/ legal counsel if you wish to prompt the thai government improve on its current investigation. if you have the resources i suggest you come here. teakdoor is simply a site designed to entertain western expats in thailand. you will need a whole lot more than this if your fears of a botched investigation are true. good luck. you will need it.

So you're drunk. Pissed as a fart. Swigging from a bottle of whiskey. You end up on a roof top. The last thing I think you'd do is carefully put down the bottle and then jump. IMO you'd take it with you.

Secondly to the grieving mother, my sincerest condolences. You mention that the newspaper reports were not accurate. Can you expand on that? Whilst I agree with Obsidian that this may not be the right arena to seek solace it does have a remarkable ability to seek out facts ( maybe due to its inate cynicism). At the very least to pose objective and subjective views on events.

Funny that there is nothing on Ajarn or Thai visa from the poor mother?
They might also be able to help.

TV would probably ban her for tarnishing their reputation or affecting their sponsors business. Ajarn would seem a logical choice, but maybe she doesn't know of it?

Originally Posted by jandajoy

At the very least to pose objective and subjective views on events.

i agree with this. but i feel (assuming the poster is genuine) we must be cautious not to provide false hope. a mother has lost a child. there is a small window of opportunity to investigate it throughly. influenceing the formal thai police system is not an easy matter. i suggest the mother get an advocate (paid for and professional) to help her through this horrible systems morass. i am not doubting anyones motives -- the mom, hillbilly or other posters. i simply think this situation is too important and well beyond amatuer teakdoor sluething. merely my opinion.

Originally Posted by obsidian

Originally Posted by jandajoy

At the very least to pose objective and subjective views on events.

i agree with this. but i feel (assuming the poster is genuine) we must be cautious not to provide false hope. a mother has lost a child. there is a small window of opportunity to investigate it throughly. influenceing the formal thai police system is not an easy matter. i suggest the mother get an advocate (paid for and professional) to help her through this horrible systems morass. i am not doubting anyones motives -- the mom, hillbilly or other posters. i simply think this situation is too important and well beyond amatuer teakdoor sluething. merely my opinion.

100% in agreement with that.

Well why we are at it - how many accidental electrocutions end lives in Thailand? Happens on a routine basis because crap installation, and non-existent or ignored building codes. I buy accidental more so because infrastructure for the most part is rubbish.

Originally Posted by dirtydog

Genuine.

I agree. Condolences for your loss, Joni. I hope your daughter rests in peace & you find some answers which help you.

Originally Posted by November Rain

Originally Posted by dirtydog

Genuine.

I agree. Condolences for your loss, Joni. I hope your daughter rests in peace & you find some answers which help you.

Possible, but how did she find Teakdoor so fast?

The story here is not indexed by google, yahoo or other major search engines yet. Hmmm....

if she typed - Michelle Rere Stillwell Thailand into Google TD's no1 so its possible

Google

Results 1 - 10 of about 242,000 for american suicide thailand. (0.16 seconds)

American teacher falls to death from condominium's rooftop

teakdoor.com/thailand-and-asia-news/29970-american-teacher-falls-from-condo-rooftop.html

1st page!

Just a thought - not a day seems to go by without there being a report about someone of one or other nationality (British, America, Canadian, Australian, Japanese, Korean..) jumping/falling off a building. Given that in this country Thai's outnumber foreigners by about 1 zillion to one I find it strange that one NEVER reads about a Thai doing this. Are they just a bit more careful / used to the low railings?

Thai deaths aren't news worthy.

Thais don't die, they just change bodies.

My name is Jennifer and I am Joni's daughter, the grieving mother, and I am also the sister of Michelle. For those who think my mom is a fraud you are wrong. I am here with her tonight because tommorrow is my sisters funeral. She is only looking on this blog as well as myself because we live in Virginia, US and Michelle was all the way over seas and we wanted to see what people and the newspapers were saying. We cant elaborate on details but we can say that michelle was not on a rooftop but in a top floor apartment and she was struggling with severe depression so use your imagination but whatever you do don't take my mom as a fraud we are all grieving and just looking for answers.

Originally Posted by jgwise

We cant elaborate on details

why not?

Ahh so suicide??? Well suppose that resolves this mystery.

'Thais don't die, they just change bodies.'
Beautiful.That's their thinking, all right! Which explains a lot. Thanks.