I rely on non-lame-stream, objective sources like the Washington Post.
I rely on non-lame-stream, objective sources like the Washington Post.
Take away here seems to be the increasing number of GOP members voicing concerns. Link contains excepts from the hearing so will try to read the entire session before forming an opinion.Originally Posted by stroller
The war was won long ago (2003)
Regime change has ocurred.
Iraqis are fitting out the last puzzle pieces by themselves -- securing their cities, borders and settling into the routine of elections. Aside from being far too expensive and slow, as measured by objectives, its been quite successful.
"Puzzle pieces" - nice one.![]()
Good, due time for US to leave thenOriginally Posted by Texpat
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Violence at lowest level in four years
CNN
Today
BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- The level of violence in Iraq has dropped within the past week to a level not seen in four years, a military spokesman said Sunday.
"Iraq-wide, we have seen a significant reduction of violence," said Rear Adm. Patrick Driscoll, spokesman for the Multi-National Forces.
"In the past week, security incidents decreased to levels we have not seen since March of 2004. These figures reflect a decrease in attacks of some 70 percent since the surge operations began in June of 2007," he said.
However, two separate blasts wounded at least 16 people in Baghdad earlier Sunday, the Interior Ministry said.
A roadside bomb targeting a police patrol went off near the Turkish Embassy in the Waziriya neighborhood in northern Baghdad on Sunday morning, the ministry official said. The blast wounded at least five people: two police officers and three bystanders.
In the second attack, a bomb inside a parked car went off as a convoy for Babil's provincial governor drove by in western Baghdad on Sunday afternoon, an Interior Ministry official said. It was not not immediately known whether Gov. Salim al-Muslimawi was part of the convoy when the bomb went off. The blast hurt 11 people, including seven members of the governor's security detail.
Driscoll also updated numbers from raids conducted in several Shiite neighborhoods of Baghdad on Friday. More than 513 people of interest were initially screened by Iraqi National Police, he said, and the Iraqi Army detained 128 people. U.S. forces screened 385 people, he said, and 344 were released.
Troops from Multi-National Division -- Baghdad took 40 people into custody, he said. Five of those were wanted criminals, and the remaining 35 were detained for questioning.
Several hundred Iraqi soldiers, with U.S. troops providing security, conducted the raids in the al-Amal and Bayaa neighborhoods in southwest Baghdad and the northwest Baghdad neighborhood of Rahmaniyat al-Shula, officials said.
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/05/25/iraq.main/index.html
Sounds like they're getting the hang of it ...
Stroller's idea of pre-war Iraq reminds me of the Burmese junta before international media arrived.
"We have no problem here. Everything is perfect. Watch, we're going to hold elections despite a cyclone just having ripped the ass out of half the country.
No problem here!"
Riiiiight. What a short memory we have eh troller?
I have not made any comment on pre-war Iraq.Originally Posted by Texpat
You're talking out of your arse, again.

Sure the US would be happy to join as a minor partner in a coalition of the willing led by the UK.Originally Posted by Panda
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this is precisely the sort of chicken hawk BS that exemplifies the likes of texpat.Originally Posted by Texpat
he quit the military when the bullets started flying....and then has the gall to declare it ended 5 years ago---all so that he can somehow manage to live with himself and his decisions.
between 2003 and 2007, 40,000 troops were diagnosed with PTSD.
40,000.
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Almost 7 years on the war in Afghanistan (re--- Al Qaeda, Taliban, Osama Bin laden, 9/11-- remember?) is bogged down while Bush and his cronies devote the vast majority of their military resources in Iraq, -- a country that posed no threat whatsoever to USA. Now the war drums in USA are beating again with an eye towards Iran. WTF is going on with these NeoCon morons? Are they really interested in avenging 9/11 and eliminating terrorist threats against their country, or is it just an excuse for regime change in unfriendly countries with lots of oil?
You don't need to be an Einstein to figure out the answer.
Wishful thinking numbnuts. The war in Iraq lasted a few weeks and was a rousing success. The political clusterfuck that followed has proved a lot of politicians (on both sides) to be braindead.
[edited] Ray's attempt at personal attacks couldn't be farther from the truth. I retired with an honorable discharge and draw a full pension. Thanks for your tax dollars, idiot. Keep 'em coming! Even got a retirement letter signed by the Commander in Chief.
Get a grip.
Last edited by Norton; 29-05-2008 at 02:37 PM.
Maybe he got ass raped by a coupla French sailors when they stopped in Newport News for some R&R. Ray and Beth were on a date (he liked to go hang around like real men in the bars by the wharf) and the Frogs couldn't tell which one was the woman. They guessed right.
just like texpat to declare victory at the end of th first quarter.....and call it a 'rousing success'.Originally Posted by Texpat
you quit when the bullets started flying. but feel free to phrase it however you like.Originally Posted by Texpat
40,000 soldiers diagnosed with PTSD after texpat declared the war over.![]()
Then bring home your soldiers!Originally Posted by Texpat
And don't let the fuckwit McCain keep them there until 2012.
well it's better than 2108....which is what mcsame was saying a couple of weeks ago.Originally Posted by lom
They can't bring them home - their homes have been repossessed!
https://teakdoor.com/us-domestic-issues/29578-us-so-proud-its-troops-makes.html#post639384
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