Obama's priorities...let's take a look

**Norton** · 14-05-2008, 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by chinthee

They're still stuck on the Reverend Wrong issue

Significant to note, the Republicans have tried to use the Rev in attacking Dem candidates in Louisiana and today again in Mississippi. In both, long standing Republicans lost to the Dems. This is another indication of the magnitude of Republican brand destruction GWB's Admin has brought to the party.

You and I just two of the millions defecting.

**raycarey** · 14-05-2008, 04:27 PM

did the dems win that seat in mississippi?

**raycarey** · 14-05-2008, 04:38 PM

yes they did.

Miss. Dem Wins in GOP Stronghold - TIME

look for the republicans to start turning on themselves....and GWB.

**Norton** · 14-05-2008, 05:47 PM

Originally Posted by raycarey

did the dems win that seat in mississippi?

Originally Posted by raycarey

yes they did.

Thanks for finding the link as I'm sure I would have been challenged to find it.

**Jet Gorgon** · 15-05-2008, 01:51 AM

Originally Posted by raycarey

yes they did.

Miss. Dem Wins in GOP Stronghold - TIME

look for the republicans to start turning on themselves....and GWB.

I like this quote from your Time article, Ray:
Tom Cole, chairman of the National Republican Congressional Committee, said the loss in Mississippi shows that "Republicans must be prepared to campaign against Democrat challengers who are running as conservatives, even as they try to join a liberal Democrat majority."
Love those Dem conservatives who support gun ownership and anti-abortion laws coz that's what their state voters want. Pansies.

Oh, Edwards has backed Obama. VP shoe-in?

**Mr Earl** · 15-05-2008, 08:46 AM

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

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Oh, Edwards has backed Obama. VP shoe-in?

Dennis Miller had a couple of good quips today regarding Edwards as the quintessential lightweight politician.
"inch wide, inch deep"
"vehicle for a haircut"
He didn't do much for John Kerry.

**Boon Mee** · 16-05-2008, 02:38 AM

Jesus Wrote a Blank Check - Starring Barack Obama

Sweet Jesus is right - 5.5 months to go...

**Accidental Ajarn** · 16-05-2008, 03:32 PM

Obama probably wouldn’t make the worst president but I can’t see myself voting for him. He seems way too smart to actually do what he promises he will do. Kind of like what Bill did, Bill promised liberal policies but signed off on budgets and the relatively conservative fiscal polices of the Republican congress. Worked a charm; Bill proposed liberal ideas such as gays in the military and nationalized health care, but never bothered to actually implement the policies. Instead he rode the wave of the business cycle and the somewhat restrained spending of a conservative congress. I suspect Obama would be somewhat of the same mold. Promise liberal policies, throw a few bones to the far left, but basically not make any major changes in American economic or foreign policies.

We could do worse.

**BobbyTits** · 16-05-2008, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by Accidental Ajarn

We could do worse.

May I quote a great line from the very recent film "Charlie Wilson's War"

A boy is given a horse on his 14th birthday. Everyone in the village says, "Oh how wonderful." But a Zen master who lives in the village says, "we shall see." The boy falls off the horse and breaks his foot. Everyone in the village says, "Oh how awful." The Zen master says, "We shall see." The village is thrown into war and all the young men have to go to war. But, because of the broken foot, the boy stays behind. Everyone says, "Oh, how wonderful." The Zen master says, "We shall see."

**Accidental Ajarn** · 16-05-2008, 05:07 PM

^
If your point is, predicting the future perfectly is impossible, I agree.

Hillary, Barrack, or John, nothing too exciting in this bunch, and nothing much to hate either.

I suspect America will have some successes and some failures over the next 4 years regardless of who gets elected.

**Norton** · 16-05-2008, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by Accidental Ajarn

Kind of like what Bill did, Bill promised liberal policies but signed off on budgets and the relatively conservative fiscal polices of the Republican congress.

He could have done worse. When a President is faced with a Congressional majority not aligned with the policies he wants to put in place the best he can do is get what he can. The way things are going, the Dems will likely have a stronghold in Congress. With this Obama will be able to implement much of what he is promising.

**stroller** · 16-05-2008, 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

Love those Dem conservatives who support gun ownership and anti-abortion laws coz that's what their state voters want. Pansies.

Hm, I didn't know the Republican party had bought an exclusive license for these positions?

Could it possibly be that some politicians are popular because they hold certain views, and not that they hold these views in order to become popular? - just a thought.

**chinthee** · 16-05-2008, 05:38 PM

^Stroller, good point. This destructive "pigeon-holing" of everyone who holds either a conservative or liberal view on a topic is what's led to this terrible partisan mess.

It's blatantly obvious on this board. We have posters completely blind to anything other than their own political party's views, and it makes them very ineffective as debaters. They just keep blurting the same responses to the same issues, like broken records.

**raycarey** · 16-05-2008, 05:47 PM

what i find interesting are the rabid, knee jerk, republicans on this board who are trying to convince everyone that they're not partisan...and their proof is that they've 'endorsed' obama.....when every regular poster here knows that they're simply jumping on the bandwagon.

**BobbyTits** · 16-05-2008, 06:03 PM

Originally Posted by raycarey

what i find interesting are the rabid, knee jerk, republicans on this board who are trying to convince everyone that they're not partisan...and their proof is that they've 'endorsed' obama.....when every regular poster here knows that they're simply jumping on the bandwagon.

Who exactly are you referring to Ray ?

**chinthee** · 16-05-2008, 06:09 PM

^Can't be me. I just posted my support of California gay marriage!

Can't be Norton. He's already stated his moderate views.

**Texpat** · 16-05-2008, 06:32 PM

Can't be me, I'm not a Republican.

I don't like any of the negativity. It sullies the whole process and erases any shread of dignity. Fortunately the candidates aren't nearly as base as the constituancies.

I thought it would be Romney v Obama -- but the religious zealots are bigger haters than the racists. Now it's down to the ageists and racists to see who's eliminated next. For as many elections as I can remember, at the end it always seems to come down to who is hated least.

That's sad.

**chinthee** · 16-05-2008, 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by Texpat

Can't be me, I'm not a Republican.

Who on earth are these phantom rabid republicans?

**Norton** · 16-05-2008, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by Texpat

For as many elections as I can remember, at the end it always seems to come down to who is hated least. That's sad.

Amen Tex, amen.

**Boon Mee** · 16-05-2008, 06:54 PM

Originally Posted by chinthee

Originally Posted by Texpat

Can't be me, I'm not a Republican.

Who on earth are these phantom rabid republicans?

Can't be me either as everyone aboard here knows I couldn't give two-shits about BO until the so-called "Rev" Wright thing came out plus associations with unrepentant bombers so...just who are these 'rabid republicans' eh?

Part of the VRWC (vast right wing conspiracy) thing Hillary was on about when BJ Bill was POTUS?

**Mr Earl** · 16-05-2008, 07:28 PM

Originally Posted by chinthee

Originally Posted by Texpat

Can't be me, I'm not a Republican.

Who on earth are these phantom rabid republicans?

No me cuz I got me republican raybees and titanus shot long ago.

**raycarey** · 16-05-2008, 07:32 PM

Originally Posted by chinthee

I just posted my support of California gay marriage!

Originally Posted by chinthee

Who on earth are these phantom rabid republicans?

your woeful ignorance on the issues discussed here is again on display.

the majority of the judges were appointed by republicans.

raise your game.

http://www.mercurynews.com/crime/ci_...nclick_check=1

btw, no one should presume that i'm referring to anyone specifically in post #514.

**stroller** · 16-05-2008, 07:37 PM

The usual suspects are in denial!

**Boon Mee** · 17-05-2008, 03:41 AM

BO The Waffler!

On April 11, 2008, Reuters reported: Obama declines to criticize Carter on Hamas.

INDIANAPOLIS (Reuters) - Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama said on Friday it was not his place to criticize former President Jimmy Carter if he were to meet with Hamas, although Obama said he would not meet with the militant Palestinian group. ...
“I’m not going to comment on former President Carter. He’s a private citizen. It’s not my place to discuss who he shouldn’t meet with,” Obama told reporters while campaigning in Indianapolis.

Five days later, on April 16, 2008, Reuters reported: Obama criticizes ex-President Carter’s Hamas meeting.

PHILADELPHIA (Reuters) - Democratic White House hopeful Barack Obama on Wednesday disagreed with former President Jimmy Carter’s overtures toward Hamas, saying he would not talk to the Islamist group until it recognized Israel and renounced terrorism. ...
“That’s why I have a fundamental difference with President Carter and disagree with his decision to meet with Hamas,” Obama said.

**stroller** · 17-05-2008, 03:55 AM

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Obama said he would not meet with the militant Palestinian group

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

saying he would not talk to the Islamist group until it recognized Israel and renounced terrorism.

Well, that's consistent, no?

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

It’s not my place to discuss who he shouldn’t meet with

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

disagreed with former President Jimmy Carter’s overtures toward Hamas

I know it is difficult to grasp, but the first comment was about not condoning nor disapproving of the meeting as such, the second comment was after the meeting and on the content thereof.

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