Thread: Obama's priorities...let's take a look

How many times were you turned down because a crack-addicted pimp who left school at 12 to live on welfare and spells English even worse than you do was allocated the last available plot for a hot-dog stall, even though they serve goat-curry as well, which clearly discriminates against the whites because they don't eat such garbage? It is outrageous, it really is.

And then they spout racism against the whites and accuse them of prejudice and discrimination, as if whites had been better off and still get most of the better paid jobs. White Christian US citizens are the oppressed of the world in the 21st century.

Gawd, don't you just hate them niggas?

^ Missed the point again, Strollies. Heil Obama.

Originally Posted by stroller

White Christian US citizens are the oppressed of the world in the 21st century.

WASPs, I think may be dated a bit but I get your gist.

Originally Posted by stroller

hot-dog stall

Politically incorrect. They are now call tube steak stands. And what are you on about, Stroll? KID speaks true about the job issues, just as I did previously where you or your sidekick RC slammed me for using my "woman" card to get a job, which I never have or ever will. The race quota is real in jobs, schools, even gov housing. A lovely lass at a local shop needs to work two jobs to make ends meet. She got turned down for PT work as a meal delivery person at a hospital -- she found out that non-English-speaking refugees were hired. WTF?

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

just as I did previously where you or your sidekick RC slammed me for using my "woman" card to get a job, which I never have or ever will.

I 'slammed' you for claiming that was all you had going for yourself in PC Canada.
Still harping on with this ridiculous claim?

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

She got turned down for PT work as a meal delivery person at a hospital -- she found out that non-English-speaking refugees were hired. WTF?

I guess there is no other work she could possibly do which the refugees have no access to?
How many % are the quotas, how often are equally or better qualified people turned down? Put the facts rather than anecdotes and resentment-fuelled generalisations on the table if you want to discuss this sensibly.

Originally Posted by stroller

I 'slammed' you for claiming that was all you had going for yourself in PC Canada.

As I said in a followup post, that is what the recruiter told me.

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

She got turned down for PT work as a meal delivery person at a hospital -- she found out that non-English-speaking refugees were hired. WTF?

Originally Posted by stroller

I guess there is no other work she could possibly do which the refugees have no access to?

The point is, Stroll, shouldn't she have first dibs on a local job, especially cause she speaks English and they don't? Oh, right, our hospitals are stuffed full of new immigrants feeding off our "free" healthcare system, so maybe better to have more non-English/French speaking staff.

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A controversy over Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama's former pastor has not hurt Obama, a new poll found on Thursday, even as more potential trouble surfaced involving his church.

A poll by the Pew Research Center said videos of sermons by the Rev. Jeremiah Wright and Obama's subsequent speech on race in America last week have attracted more public attention than any events thus far in the 2008 presidential campaign.

The March 19-22 survey of 1,503 American adults found that despite the flap, Illinois Sen. Obama had maintained a 49 percent to 39 percent advantage over New York Sen. Hillary Clinton in the race for the Democratic presidential nomination.

Obama weathers Wright storm as new details emerge | Politics | Reuters

Seems to be panning out how I guessed- the 'Righteous Indignants' are those who are implacably opposed to Obama anyway, be it on the grounds he is a Democrat, or his policies, or that he is racially mixed. So they will grasp at anything. Most people, while not impressed by Rev. Wrights rhetoric, do not blame it on Obama- or so the Polls say.

Hillary seems to care nothing for the Democrat party, rather her own ego and 'win at all costs' attitude. She should drop out of the race- frankly her candidacy is dead in the water. There is even speculation that she would rather divide the Dem's and hand the Presidency to McCain rather than have the next President being Obama- because this would give her another shot in the next Presidential elections.

Incidentally, why is it the same Posters saying that the racial card should not be played in the US elections are the same one's playing the racial card here?

Originally Posted by stroller

How many times were you turned down because a crack-addicted pimp who left school at 12 to live on welfare and spells English even worse than you do was allocated the last available plot for a hot-dog stall, even though they serve goat-curry as well, which clearly discriminates against the whites because they don't eat such garbage? It is outrageous, it really is.

And then they spout racism against the whites and accuse them of prejudice and discrimination, as if whites had been better off and still get most of the better paid jobs. White Christian US citizens are the oppressed of the world in the 21st century.

ALAS, you finally have a correct point of view stroller. Glad to see that your mind is finally starting to open up a wee bit !!


ohhhh, and you didn't answer the questions about your homeland stroller !!!!!

Originally Posted by KID

ohhhh, and you didn't answer the questions about your homeland stroller !!!!!

I don't think it's relevant to the topic:

Originally Posted by KID

how many germans are passed over for jobs so companies can meet there quota of IMMIGRANTS or PEOPLE OF COLOR in germany stroller??

There are no such quota in Germany, nor are there quotas for employing immigrants in the US.
I am not a fan of quota systems myself, this has been discussed in another thread.

On the other hand, while the U.S. has made huge strides in achieving equal opportunity in employment -- and things have gotten better -- racial discrimination persists. Many argue that it has simply taken subtler forms.

Stroller, this isn't a jab at you, I'm just curious. Have you spent much time in the US? Have your visits spanned several decades? Or are your opinions based on things you've read?

From my point of view, racial discrimination in the US is a fraction of what it was in the 70s. It will never disappear and it exists wherever races mix, in my country and yours. Incidentally, the most vicious hatred among races in the US is not white-black, but black-Asian.

Originally Posted by Texpat

black-Asian.

Not very popular in Asia either!

Obama's got those lovely Black Panthers back up on his site.



Yep...just the sort of folks we want to see in the White House...

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

RC slammed me for using my "woman" card to get a job

where's that then?
post a quote and a link.

Originally Posted by Texpat

From my point of view, racial discrimination in the US is a fraction of what it was in the 70s.

says the white guy.

and considering you're in your mid forties now, what the hell do you know about discrimination in the seventies? you were in your mid teens at the end of the decade.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Obama's got those lovely Black Panthers back up on his site.

not that it matters because there is absolutely no accountability in issues anymore, but i'm calling 'bullshit'.

Boon mee,

Juxtaposing the 1960s, with today - 40 years later.

You're losing credibility - honestly, did you ever have it?

Simple question for y'all:

Does Obama have the Black Panther Party represented on his website or does he not?

"y'all"?

save the hackneyed colloquialisms for the orderlies in the old age home you'll be moving into soon.

Obama pull NBPP (New Black Panther Party) from his web site:
Obama website yanks 'Black Panthers' plug

NBPP web site - outlineing their core platform:
New Black Panther Party for Self Defense

So the Republican party is in favour of concealed weapons, such as pen guns and switchblades?

Originally Posted by sabang

So the Republican party is in favour of concealed weapons, such as pen guns and switchblades?

Hmmm...rather doubt it...

Originally Posted by raycarey

Originally Posted by Texpat

From my point of view, racial discrimination in the US is a fraction of what it was in the 70s.

what the hell do you know about discrimination in the seventies? you were in your mid teens at the end of the decade.

And a teenager can't witness, describe or remember racial insults, fights, cliques and gangs? Thought you were smarter than that Ray. Back to using personal insults again I see -- coward.

Danielle Allen is UPS Foundation Professor of Social Science at the Institute for Advanced Study in Princeton -


The debate over whether Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton has enough experience to be president obscures the real question: When is a vote for a young candidate reasonable?
Obama's résumé compares very favorably to those of other 46-year-olds. Clinton's, compared with that of other 60-year-olds, is, with all due respect to her, thin. It is indeed distinctive, and she does have more leadership experience than many, but she probably does not rise to the top of her age cohort. Obama does.
Since younger candidates will always have less experience than older candidates, the responsible question is: How should one evaluate the young?
There have been plenty of eras when Obama would have been considered not young but in the prime of life.
Aristotle identified 50 as life's prime. From 21 to 35, a citizen should be a warrior, he argued, and thereafter, during the peak of his intelligence, from 35 to 55, a political leader.
This same general sense of life's progression surfaced in the United States during the Constitutional Convention. There was little debate over setting the age of eligibility of the presidency at 35. The question was rather whether term limits should be imposed, since they might block service past the age of 50. On July 24, 1787, founder James Wilson (himself then 44) mounted a spirited defense of those who serve into their 80s. But the service of the young didn't need defending.
Increased life expectancies have dramatically extended life's prime. Have these changes altered its starting point? I doubt it. We will continue to have candidates of merit in their 40s and early 50s, and we need to know how to evaluate them effectively.
Although the age of eligibility for the presidency caused so little controversy that the issue is not discussed in the Federalist Papers, the age of eligibility for the House and Senate does arise, as in Federalist Paper 52: "A representative of the United States must be of the age of twenty-five years . . . the door of this part of the federal government is open to merit of every description, whether native or adoptive, whether young or old, and without regard to poverty or wealth, or to any particular profession of religious faith."
A senator would have to be older, at least 30, for reasons given in Federalist Paper 62: "The propriety of these distinctions is explained by the nature of the senatorial trust, which, requiring greater extent of information and stability of character, requires at the same time that the senator should have reached a period of life most likely to supply these advantages."
Age should properly bring broader and deeper knowledge of the world as well as stability of character. We might ask, then, of our candidates - McCain, Clinton and Obama - whether age has indeed brought them those things.
But we can take the evaluation further.
When a young candidate presents him- or herself to us, the candidate effectively claims: "Although I appear to you untested, I know I can do the job."
To prove such a case, a young candidate must do four things:
Offer an evidently accurate diagnosis of present problems, one more penetrating than those offered by other candidates.
Begin to sketch out solutions, recognizing that the actual solutions themselves will emerge in their most solid form only through actual engagement in the work.
Prove a clear capacity to convert the resources of mind, spirit and treasure into effective action in the world.
Make the case for him- or herself with grace, good judgment and integrity.
When a young candidate can do all these things, we should vote for that candidate because we will have successfully elected a person of merit in the prime of life.
Obama has done all of these things.
He has offered a penetrating diagnosis of a very important central crisis in American political life. Ordinary citizens have grown less and less willing to assume what belongs to them: responsibility for their lives, and for their political futures. The workings of politics have been muddied by PACS, lobbyists, political dynasties, and wrangles over grievance and victimhood. Notions of political responsibility (i.e., that citizens are the ones responsible for their own political destiny) have degraded. Citizens are unwilling or unready to pursue solutions through practical, grass-roots action to identify common goods and shared interests. We fail to solve our collective problems and fall, instead, into name-calling.
He has offered a sketch of solutions. On each policy issue, Obama has identified specific policy goals as well as explaining how citizens will be expected to take responsibility; we might, for instance, note his insistence on involving the American people in the practical negotiations over health care.
He has proved his capacity to convert potentialities into actualities. The proof lies in his campaign. He diagnosed the dominance of incumbents as a problem in our political life. He designed a strategy to resolve it: a grass-roots campaign that would deploy the new social-networking technologies to unsettle the complacency of incumbency. Finally, he has done all this with grace, good judgment, and integrity.

It's Obama's maturity for his age that matters | Philadelphia Inquirer | 04/06/2008

So you see, what sick f$%%^ they are?