Ajarn poster and teacher Ruaraidh killed

**Smeg** · 17-02-2008, 06:38 PM

Helmets in Thailand seem to average about 200 Baht. This is how much value Thais place on their own life.

**Smeg** · 17-02-2008, 07:39 PM

The final drink

**Smeg** · 17-02-2008, 07:40 PM

^ Eric, AO, and Cantona, according to forum commentary

**ChiangMai noon** · 17-02-2008, 07:45 PM

i thought cantona was about 23.

i am surprised by the early aging.

**kingwilly** · 17-02-2008, 07:47 PM

23 or 32 ?

or 3?

i thought AO had a long gray pony tail.

**ChiangMai noon** · 17-02-2008, 07:49 PM

Originally Posted by kingwilly

i thought AO had a long gray pony tail.

don't think even he is that naff.

who is eric?

**Mister Fixit** · 17-02-2008, 07:55 PM

Originally Posted by obsidian

thats what makes them fun.

Fuck, I wanted to red you for a previous post, now I want to green you for that. Decisions, decisions ...

**Mister Fixit** · 17-02-2008, 09:11 PM

OK, FWIW, I was told on Friday night by a mate of his that he was going home at night on his motorbike and 'took his eyes off the road' and whacked up the back of a stationary lorry. Whoever wants to can draw whatever inference you like from that, as I have no further details.

As to whether he had appropriate insurance, I also do not know.

**Mister Fixit** · 17-02-2008, 09:14 PM

Originally Posted by Smeg

Helmets in Thailand seem to average about 200 Baht. This is how much value Thais place on their own life.

Yes, when I wanted to buy a decent helmet here 3 years ago, I struggled to pay more than about 900 baht, and that was after a long search.

A bit less than the £400 or so cost of the cheaper helmets in the UK. Even aside from the normal over-pricing of rip-off Britain, it was minimal, to say the least.

**dirtydog** · 18-02-2008, 01:04 AM

Originally Posted by Mister Fixit

I was told on Friday night by a mate of his that he was going home at night on his motorbike and 'took his eyes off the road' and whacked up the back of a stationary lorry.

Pissed perhaps? at least no pain or memory, still sad to see such a happy go lucky chap die die anyway..

**bongthom** · 18-02-2008, 09:45 AM

sorry lads.

i originally posted on ajarn that he was hit by a truck but that was wrong.

ruaraidh was taking a left turn at an intersection and he hit the back of a truck that was parked there........obviously no lights or warning signs. i presume ruaraidh was checking for traffic from his right and didn't see the truck.

he was coming back from a private lesson so drunkeness doesn't figure.

also....he wasn't wearing a helmet but there's no point in wrestling over that issue. he's gone and no internet debates will change that.

cheers.

**Bexar County Stud** · 18-02-2008, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by bongthom

he wasn't wearing a helmet but there's no point in wrestling over that issue. he's gone and no internet debates will change that.

Seems to me a debate would not be the only option.
A plea to all motocy drivers to take care and wear a motorcycle helmet would be a good way to honor his memory and unfortunate passing.

**kingwilly** · 18-02-2008, 02:32 PM

What's with the fact that about 5 or so posters over there all have avatars of his face now?

a little on the less than tasteful side I would have thought

**PlanK** · 18-02-2008, 02:43 PM

^^^ I guess it's this electronic medium. Not really good for expressing strong emotions. Do what you can kinda thing.

Makes things a bit confusing though.

**Smeg** · 18-02-2008, 10:19 PM

Originally Posted by bongthom

ruaraidh was taking a left turn at an intersection and he hit the back of a truck that was parked there........obviously no lights or warning signs. i presume ruaraidh was checking for traffic from his right and didn't see the truck.

he was coming back from a private lesson so drunkeness doesn't figure.

also....he wasn't wearing a helmet but there's no point in wrestling over that issue. he's gone and no internet debates will change that.

Isn't parking on junctions illegal in Thailand?

He must have been travelling at some speed. What a horrible way to go. Being drunk might have made it less so. Although, if suffering a head injury from an over-the-handlebars impact like that (presumption) he wouldn't have known much compared to, for example, falling off the bike and then being run either, either with shattered bones or gouged-off limbs and pieces of body but still concious until bleeding to death.

In in gory mood, sorry

**Smeg** · 18-02-2008, 10:20 PM

Originally Posted by Bexar County Stud

Originally Posted by bongthom

he wasn't wearing a helmet but there's no point in wrestling over that issue. he's gone and no internet debates will change that.

Seems to me a debate would not be the only option.
A plea to all motocy drivers to take care and wear a motorcycle helmet would be a good way to honor his memory and unfortunate passing.

Just don't ride motorbikes on busy roads or at night in Thailand, period.

**dirtydog** · 18-02-2008, 10:43 PM

Originally Posted by Bexar County Stud

A plea to all motocy drivers to take care and wear a motorcycle helmet would be a good way to honor his memory and unfortunate passing.

Got to agree, although here it seems to be 200baht helmets on 200baht heads, another idea would be to pass some sort of driving test legitimately, although i have to admit being guilty to the former and even not wearing a crash helmet at times, real dumb thing to do

**obsidian** · 18-02-2008, 10:48 PM

hats are for pussies.

**Gallowspole** · 18-02-2008, 10:55 PM

Yeah but they have 9 lives. We don't.

**obsidian** · 18-02-2008, 10:59 PM

open casket or burn. thats the only difference.

look inside your helmet. styrafoam and a veneer of plastic. worthless shit.

**ChiangMai noon** · 18-02-2008, 11:00 PM

Originally Posted by obsidian

worthless shit

still better than nothing.

i have just head banged the wall quite slowly with and without the helmet.

it hurts less with a shit helmet, believe me.

**Bexar County Stud** · 19-02-2008, 07:04 AM

Invest in a real helmet. I know there's places in Pattaya that sell 'em and BKK for sure. I bought mine the last time I went home.

Macho posturing is for pussies.

BTW, did the great Bangkok Phil show up for the send off?

**kingwilly** · 19-02-2008, 07:10 AM

Originally Posted by obsidian

hats are for pussies.

Originally Posted by obsidian

look inside your helmet. styrafoam and a veneer of plastic. worthless shit.

wrong.

Originally Posted by Bexar County Stud

Macho posturing is for pussies.

agreed.

**obsidian** · 19-02-2008, 07:42 AM

a hat wont help you when driving into the back of a truck.

**kingwilly** · 19-02-2008, 07:49 AM

Originally Posted by obsidian

a hat wont help you when driving into the back of a truck.

really?

you're an expert on road trauma and survivability are you?

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