Thread: Obama's priorities...let's take a look

Just as well the world has a free and democratic superpower, warts and all, don't you think? Or should it be dismantled because it's less than perfect?

Originally Posted by Milkman

I don't know who said dismantled

nobody did.

Originally Posted by britmaveric

From what I gather Obama has little to say, and I don't think yanks have to worry because he wont be president.

Got that right brit.

Any y'all recall Millie Vanilli?

That's Obama all over again. He's simply lip-syncing the same old tired limousine liberal standards thru this campaign.

An empty suit...

^ Please see my free press news post in the prez thread, Boonie.

Originally Posted by Little Chuchok

Originally Posted by BobbyTits

Originally Posted by Little CockLoad

It's seppos like this that really do the rest of the yankie crowd no favours.

god-damn were the best country in the world...
god damn we are the most powerful country in the world....
god-damn we are just great...

What a goddanm cock.

It is a fact that most folks like Little Cockload just can't stand the stature that America held for some many years.

Hmm stature....you mean pointing out that people like you have the stature of a small furry animal in most peoples eyes?.All I was doing was pointing out the blatantly obvious.The sad, sad thing about all your drivel,is that you actually believe it.Outstanding.

Exactly like I said, you spent your whole life peeking over the fence and then running home fuming about your shortcomings.

I can't blame you.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by britmaveric

From what I gather Obama has little to say, and I don't think yanks have to worry because he wont be president.

Got that right brit.

Any y'all recall Millie Vanilli?

That's Obama all over again. He's simply lip-syncing the same old tired limousine liberal standards thru this campaign.

An empty suit...

Do not underestimate the stupidity of the american voter. If Obamama gets the nomination he'll very likely win.

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

Do not underestimate the stupidity of the american voter

After Bush for two terms I think it's taken as read by now.

I will never vote for him after reading his voting record-- and the below vote was the iceing on the cake !! lets open the doors for the criminals---fukin tosser


National

Key Vote

Denying Legal Status for Immigrants Convicted of Certain Crimes



Bill Number: S Amdt 1184
Issues: Business and Consumers, Crime Issues, Immigration, Labor, Legal Issues
Date: 06/06/2007
Sponsor: Sen. Cornyn, John (R-TX)



Record Vote Number 187
Amendment Rejected (Senate)
How members voted
(46 - 51)


Senator Barack Obama voted NO
Read statements Senator Obama made in this general time period.


Project Vote Smart's Synopsis:

Vote to pass an amendment that would prohibit undocumented immigrants convicted of aggravated felonies, domestic violence, stalking, violation of protection orders, crimes against children, or crimes relating to the illegal purchase or sale of firearms, from gaining legal status.

NOTE: THIS IS AN AMENDMENT TO A SUBSTITUTE AMENDMENT. A SUBSTITUTE AMENDMENT REPLACES LANGUAGE WITH ITS OWN.


Official Title of Legislation:

S Amdt 1184 to S Amdt 1150 to S 1348: To establish a permanent bar for gang members, terrorists, and other criminals.

Highlights:

-Bars legal status to immigrants who have engaged in certain forms of identification fraud (Sec. 204A (b))

Link to Legislation: Search Results - THOMAS (Library of Congress)

Senate Amendment Vote: 06/06/2007 : Amendment Rejected 46 - 51 (Record Vote Number 187)


Cosponsors:
Sen. DeMint, Jim (R-SC)
Sen. Nelson, E. Benjamin (D-NE)

Ranked the most liberal senator in Congress.

Say no more...

A moderate liberal Muslim in the Senate offering to control the most powerful nation on the planet for the next 4 years...whatever next? American voters would need to be as scatty as some posters profess, for this man to reach the WH.

My guess is that many will awake with a shudder before it's too late, though not his unfaltering 85-90% black and 70-80% Muslim support due to a coincidence of birth, and I wouldn't for a moment inject an inference of racism because anyone who knows anything knows only white Xtians are racist.


As a side issue, though the mere mention of it might well have the lib/left/loonies up in arms, this leads to another issue certainly of concern to some, as it demonstrates not the weakness in a single American election but the Achilles Heel of democracy, which has no defence against a race or religion or group of people devoted to its downfall or more likely control, using its own core principles to breed it into chaos and ultimately dysfunction.

Oops, is that RACIST? - gawn yer terminal nutters, have fun.

Originally Posted by keda

Oops, is that RACIST?

Dunno about that, it is an ill-informed rant though. Firstly Obama isn't Muslim, secondly your concern at religious groups 'hijacking' the White House is laughable given that this has been going on for the previous two terms and it apparently only bothers you now that there's a chance a non-White man could possibly be President even though, as already stated, he isn't a Muslim anyways.

So yeah, more of the same dribble. Plus ca change...

I know a guy called Hillary, but no infidels with a name like Osama or Obama or Hussein.

Still, are you saying, and do correct me if I am wrong, or for that matter if I am right, that the last 2 terms were religious (let's say Xtian) hijackings of the WH?

Originally Posted by keda

I know a guy called Hillary, but no infidels with a name like Osama or Obama or Hussein.

As far as dodges go, that's pretty weak.

Originally Posted by keda

Still, are you saying, and do correct me if I am wrong, or for that matter if I am right, that the last 2 terms were religious (let's say Xtian) hijackings of the WH?

I said what I said, it's right there in the post above. But lets not twist and squirm, this is about the nonsense you dribbled. Please elucidate to me further the how's and why's of a Muslim hijacking the White House.

Originally Posted by keda

Muslim in the Senate

"I am in this race to tell the Corporate Lobbyists that their days of setting the agenda in Washington are over."

Barack Obama, Dec. 10 2007

Sounds good to me.

He also promises to end no bid contracts, and end the 'revolving door' between the Executive Baranch and Lobbying groups 'Obama appointee's will serve America, not their own financial interests'.

He describes government spending as out of control, and outrightly charges that the currrent administration has used their political influence to award lucrative contracts for the benefit of themselves and business associates (which we all know to be true). He is selling a more transparent, ethical Washington.

I'd like him to be more specific, but he sounds the only Presidential nominee advocating any real positive change for Washington and the White House.

The modern Republican party is hopelessly subservient to Corporate interests.

He can pledge to change the way things work, but all that does is leave him blaming the corporate government for being successful against his wishes. Governments and Presidents come and go, but the civil service is a constant, he can have them pretend to dance and make the right noises if that's what makes him feel good, but he knows and they know he'll be gone long before doing any long term damage.

Also, as you say he describes spending as out of control, naturally charging the current gov with impropriety which is fair enough and part of his job in opposition...but should (or the hildebeast) capture the WH, do you or anyone else sincerely believe spending will be cut, or capped, or will it continue on its de facto roll but perhaps with a greater share directed towards the lower levels of society?

And I too would like him to be more specific, as to what he intends to do in Iraq, if withdrawal then how, before drawing him out on health, immigration, national security and other issues that have not yet been and will not be aggressively debated until we know who is leading the Dems.

For now he can gripe about the current gov for all he's worth, and it certainly looks like a major part of his campaign has him as the good guy saving the US from 8 years of Bush...unfortunately that doesn't pan out in politics, and he will need more than talk to swindle his way past the fickle, but not brain dead, American voter.

Astounding. You post a load of unmitigated cobblers about the guy, get called on it, and don't even skip a beat in glossing over it and moving on to posting more - albeit more tenable - criticisms and pretending like nothing ever happened.

If the slander and lies don't work then downscale to save face eh. Start from the wholly untenable and work your way back if that's not swallowed.

Originally Posted by keda

And I too would like him to be more specific, as to what he intends to do in Iraq, if withdrawal then how, before drawing him out on health, immigration, national security and other issues that have not yet been and will not be aggressively debated until we know who is leading the Dems.

have you read the detailed positions he has already laid out on these issues? they're readily available on his website.
do you even care that they are available?

or would you just like to lie about him being a muslim who is trying to "swindle" the american public?

Barack Obama | Change We Can Believe In | Issues

Originally Posted by raycarey

have you read the detailed positions he has already laid out on these issues? they're readily available on his website.

Fokkin dangerous he is. He has plans.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Astounding. You post a load of unmitigated cobblers about the guy, get called on it, and don't even skip a beat in glossing over it and moving on to posting more - albeit more tenable - criticisms and pretending like nothing ever happened.

If the slander and lies don't work then downscale to save face eh. Start from the wholly untenable and work your way back if that's not swallowed.

What slander & lies, eh?

The guy is ranked the most Liberal in Congress - nothing to dispute there...

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

nothing to dispute there...

Then why are you trolling the point?

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

nothing to dispute there...

Then why are you trolling the point?

No trolling here..move along.

Main point of the thread is whether Obama would make a 'good' president.
In my view and hopefully at lot of others as well, the answer is a resounding 'no' for the aforementioned reason alone...