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    yet another AQ #3, eh?

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    see there Booners,, Ray Baby said he fired that missle, ain't he a brave boy, don't ya wish he was your son?

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    putting aside for a moment that you claim to have me on 'ignore' ....

    what does this quote even mean?

    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang
    see there Booners,, Ray Baby said he fired that missle, ain't he a brave boy, don't ya wish he was your son?
    whatever, it really doesn't matter....carry on.

    although i'd like to recommend that you put down the twist top wine--it's only 2:30 in the afternoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    yet another AQ #3, eh?
    Whittling them down one by one...

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    Booners, is that called incest when Ray puts his face in your open fly??


    Whats new in Afghanistan?03-02-2008 09:53 PMBoon MeeIf I knew I'd have a son that turned out like him, I'd a gone out in the woods and jacked off on a stump and let the ants eat him...

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    Quote Originally Posted by keda View Post
    Parallels with Iraq no doubt.
    US Military strategy I don't think has changed since the Civil War. The new modern warfare is not a question of how many tanks or buildings you can destroy, it is about how many locals you can change. It is about shifting ideologies and there they have not really excelled.

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    A prim and proper Western democratic mindset scores no points in dealing with savages.

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    The only American (so far) who has been indited for Treason since 9/11 may be dead. No tears for him here...

    The Jawa Report: American al Qaeda, Adam Gadahn, Dead?

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    Whats new in Afghanistan?
    well, what's relatively new is that the US govt. is trying to blame its failure there on NATO, when it should be looking inward for the root cause of the failure---particularly at the vice president's office.

    by diverting resources to iraq, they now have two failures on their hands....and no end in sight.

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    Whats new in Afghanistan?
    new?

    well, 80 people got blown to smithereens yesterday.

    Afghan suicide blast kills 80 - Afghanistan - MSNBC.com

    imagine if the GWB wasn't duped by rummy and cheney into sending 160,000 american troops in to iraq....those 80 people would quite likely be alive right now, and the karzai govt. wouldn't be hanging by a thread.

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    what's funny?

    or are you just drunk again?

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    The situation is at its worst in Afghanistan and Irak, a total fiasco. The same fiasco in the US economy and the worst is to come. I think USA should forget about Iran as they are not even able to win a war against peasant.

    But I'm sure some 'merkans suntanning in Thailand will argue that I don't know what I'm talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    Whats new in Afghanistan?
    new?

    well, 80 people got blown to smithereens yesterday.

    Afghan suicide blast kills 80 - Afghanistan - MSNBC.com

    imagine if the GWB wasn't duped by rummy and cheney into sending 160,000 american troops in to iraq....those 80 people would quite likely be alive right now, and the karzai govt. wouldn't be hanging by a thread.
    OK...how many folks died in traffic accidents on the roads yesterday?
    Goddamn! We gotta ban motor vehicles!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    OK...how many folks died in traffic accidents on the roads yesterday?
    in afghanistan? i have no idea. do you think it was more than 80? your post seems to indicate that you do. please provide a link.

    btw, another 36 blown to bits yesterday

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/19/wo....html?ref=asia

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    ^ Yeh, the situation is deteriorating in Afghanistan.

    What has changed with these last two atrocities is that now civilian populations are being deliberately targeted by the Taliban, rather than NATO troops and government forces.

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    it really is a fcuking tragedy that shows absolutely no sign of getting better. in fact, all evidence points to the contrary.

    and it could easily be argued that this most recent wave of brutal violence (and more of the same that is likely to follow) could have been avoided if the US had not decided to preemptively invade a country that had absolutely nothing to do with 9/11.

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    Heh...and your tax dollars are supporting it too, eh?

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    Taliban called growing threat in Afghanistan

    Insurgency seen potentially as worse problem than Iraq

    February 28, 2008

    WASHINGTON - New U.S. intelligence assessments cast doubt on President Bush's recent contention that Taliban and al-Qaida forces in Afghanistan are "on the run."

    In fact, American and NATO troops have been unable to contain an expansion of Taliban insurgents in southern and western Afghanistan, two top U.S. intelligence officers said yesterday. They said the insurgents increasingly are funded, armed, trained and directed by al-Qaida from its sanctuary in neighboring Pakistan.

    The director of national intelligence, Mike McConnell, described the situation in Afghanistan as "deteriorating," even though U.S. and allied forces have been roughly doubled since 2004, from about 26,000 to nearly 50,000 today.

    These troops will be reinforced with about 2,200 Marines, who will arrive soon on an urgent combat deployment into southern Afghanistan to check the Taliban advance and liberate areas under Taliban control.

    Diverted from their normal assignments, the Marines were tapped for a seven-month stint of what is expected to be hard fighting, according to the Marine commandant, Gen. James T. Conway.

    McConnell told the Senate Armed Services Committee yesterday that the "security situation has deteriorated in some areas in the south, and Taliban forces have expanded their operations into previously peaceful areas of the west and around Kabul."

    McConnell said the Taliban is in control of about 10 percent of Afghanistan, with the central government able to control about 30 percent.

    The death or capture of three top Taliban leaders last year "does not yet appear to have significantly disrupted insurgent operations," McConnell said.

    Despite U.S. efforts to train and equip the Afghan army and national police, McConnell said, the Afghan forces are hampered by insufficient training and equipment, and by corruption and absenteeism. The intelligence chief said the Afghan government of President Hamid Karzai has a "chronic shortage of resources and qualified and motivated government officials," and has difficulty delivering services outside the capital.

    Army Lt. Gen Michael D. Maples, head of military intelligence, told the committee that al-Qaida, based in its sanctuary in Pakistan, "has expanded its support to the Afghan insurgency."

    Also, Army Maj. Gen. David M. Rodriguez, who commands American forces in Afghanistan, said he is seeing "an increase in cooperation between the insurgents as well as the terrorists led by al-Qaida" in Afghanistan. He said insurgent groups are starting to coordinate their operations rather than acting separately, suggesting a more difficult tactical problem for U.S. forces.

    These new intelligence assessments echo a series of more damning nongovernmental analyses, including one by former NATO commander and Marine commandant, retired Gen. James Jones. That report, released last month by the Atlantic Council, concluded that "urgent changes are required now to prevent Afghanistan from becoming a failing or failed state."

    Jones reported that the military conflict was at best a stalemate, that the Karzai government is ineffective, and that U.S. and NATO efforts to help strengthen Karzai's ability to extend government services were an uncoordinated mess.

    Since the United States claimed victory in late 2001 in chasing the Taliban and al-Qaida from Afghanistan, the Islamic extremists have regrouped in Pakistan's frontier regions as the United States shifted its attention to Iraq.

    The Pentagon has characterized Afghanistan as an "economy of force" operation, meaning that it gets troops, equipment and strategic attention that are not needed in Iraq, which has been viewed as the more important conflict.

    But that view is increasingly in question, by outside critics as well as by Pentagon officials who see the growing and increasingly violent Islamist insurgency in Afghanistan and Pakistan as potentially more damaging to U.S. interests and regional stability than continued unrest in Iraq.

    Even Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates has called for a new approach in Afghanistan.

    "We need a strategy in Afghanistan that addresses both the security situation and governance and development," he said at a Pentagon news conference last month.

    In an interview yesterday, a senior White House official said that no major new strategy is imminent, but that Afghanistan operations are constantly being reviewed.

    "We are trying to make this work within the context of NATO and the international community," the official said, describing that as "a unique set of challenges" that do not constrain U.S. policy in Iraq, for example.

    The official said he hopes NATO can move forward in the next two months on two critical issues: devising an effective counter-narcotics strategy and naming a special U.N. envoy to help coordinate the work of governmental and private relief and reconstruction efforts.

    The United Nations reported this month that the south and southwest regions of Afghanistan "continue to grow opium at an alarming rate," with a second record crop expected this year. The U.N. report noted that insurgents typically take 10 percent of the crop under their control, their major source of funding.

    The Marines being sent to southern Afghanistan are the 24th Marine Expeditionary Unit, an air-ground task force with a reinforced infantry battalion and an air squadron with Harrier strike fighters and attack and transport helicopters.

    "In Afghanistan, from what I understand, they will come out to fight and try to keep us engaged, try to kill us," said Capt. David Lee, who commands a reconnaissance and surveillance platoon in the 24th MEU.

    He said that was in sharp contrast with the fighting in Iraq, where his experience was that insurgents would not attack Marines directly.

    As for Afghanistan, "We're ready," he said.

    Taliban called growing threat in Afghanistan -- baltimoresun.com
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    Afghanistan mission close to failing - US

    Injection of troops and aid has not brought stability says intelligence chief

    After six years of US-led military support and billions of pounds in aid, security in Afghanistan is "deteriorating" and President Hamid Karzai's government controls less than a third of the country, America's top intelligence official has admitted.

    Mike McConnell testified in Washington that Karzai controls about 30% of Afghanistan and the Taliban 10%, and the remainder is under tribal control.

    The Afghan government angrily denied the US director of national intelligence's assessment yesterday, insisting it controlled "over 360" of the country's 365 districts. "This is far from the facts and we completely deny it," said the defence ministry.....

    The key to the Taliban's success, McConnell said, "is the opportunity for safe haven in Pakistan". Meanwhile the surge in violence has placed a big strain on Nato.

    Afghanistan mission close to failing - US | World news | The Guardian

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    Now that the bad news is coming from the Pentagon it's not surprising the hawks on this board have no answer to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hootad Binky View Post
    Now that the bad news is coming from the Pentagon it's not surprising the hawks on this board have no answer to it.
    Booners will issue a statement on it shortly.

    Once the blogosphere is updated and he then knows what his opinion is.

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    Heh... my opinion has not wavered one iota on the GWOT since it commenced.

    LONDON, England (AP) -- "French President Nicolas Sarkozy plans to announce that France will send 1,000 additional troops to Afghanistan, a British newspaper reported Saturday."

    That Sarkozy is a stand-up fellow! Send even more!

    Report: France to boost Afghan commitment - CNN.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    Heh... my opinion has not wavered one iota on the GWOT since it commenced.
    and i'm sure the people of afghanistan appreciate your stalwart support on the pages of internet message board for people living in thailand.

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