Thread: Playing With Guns Is Good For Boys

An outbreak of sanity from across the Pond!:

"BANNING boys from playing with toy guns is futile and may even damage their development, a leading child psychologist has warned"

Read the rest...Playing with guns is 'good for boys' - Scotsman.com

I grew up on a farm with the real thing. I had an assortment of air rifles and pistols in my teens and ultimatley became familiar with a twelve-bore. I learnt to handle weapons responsibly, nobody ever got hurt and I feel no particular urge to kill.

I see no need for ordinary civilians to own guns unless they belong to properly controlled clubs where the guns are kept. We used them for pest control although occasionally we would bring a good dinner home too.

Originally Posted by Thormaturge

I see no need for ordinary civilians to own guns

Unless you have Second Ammendment beliefs...

Or you are paranoid that your government or the reds or the muslims are coming to get you!

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Any of the above.
Recall a "well-armed militia?"

Don't leave the girls out.
Everybody had a .22 and a shotgun on the farm. And everybody was taught how to use them, cept the shotgun near tore my arm off so I stuck to the .22. At Gram's, we did gophers mostly (else you had to put a horse down if it stumbled in the g holes), but after just target practise with tin cans. And I'm pretty sane and a total pacivist. Reckon I could still load and shoot tho.

Guns are fun....
Large caliber automatic weapons rock baby!

Originally Posted by Thormaturge

I see no need for ordinary civilians to own guns unless they belong to properly controlled clubs where the guns are kept.

It's really not a question of "need". It's a matter of personal liberty.
If people were held more accountable to current gun laws I suspect we'd be seeing fewer guns realated crimes.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Playing With Guns Is Good For Boys

Of course it is. The same as girls playing with dolls. If you take guns off of boys they just then change to swords or likewise toys. It's a built in character of ones sex. As long as the child's taught the difference between playing and reality.

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

It's really not a question of "need". It's a matter of personal liberty.
If people were held more accountable to current gun laws I suspect we'd be seeing fewer guns realated crimes.

Does the right to bear arms extend to nuclear weapons? If so would you agree to Dick Cheyney having a warhead and missile in his back yard? If not then where do you draw the line?

Originally Posted by Thormaturge

Does the right to bear arms extend to nuclear weapons? If so would you agree to Dick Cheyney having a warhead and missile in his back yard? If not then where do you draw the line?

Does Dick Cheney want a nuclear missile in his back yard? That's news to me.
How did you come by that info?
Did you pull it out of your ass?

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Unless you have Second Ammendment beliefs...

The Second Amendment as it pertains to gun ownership/possession has become a twisted perversion of itself.

How an ambiguous bit of text from the 1700's relates to the modern world is beyond me.

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My guess is that when some weirdo Wako-style cult nukes Washington we may see that amendment toned down a tad.

^That may be so, the the right to bear arms is so deeply ingrained in the American psyche I don't see how it could ever really be curtailed more than enforcement of gun ownership laws, background checks etc., which are already being done.

I owned guns and rifles since I was a kid, and we were taught how to responsibly treat them with respect and utmost safety. Owning, learning how to care for guns and shooting them is one of life's great pleasures, and it has nothing to do with shooting people or animals in fact.

Originally Posted by chinthee

the the right to bear arms is so deeply ingrained in the American psyche I don't see how it could ever really be curtailed more than enforcement of gun ownership laws, background checks etc., which are already being done

Ok this is what I don't get, accepting what you say why is it that most Americans are apparently quite prepared to have their rights and liberties eroded in the pursuit of a 'War on Terror' against an ill-defined and clarified enemy yet the moment "gun control" is even mentioned go into states of near apoplexy and start crying about their rights!?

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The difficulty with guns is that it is so easy to take a life with them. It isn't the same as stamp collecting or carving duck decoys. Someone can own a gun for decades without any trouble, but then , in the heat of the moment, can kill with ease. If Americans are prepared to live with that risk then fine. Frankly I'm not, although I have no objection to people shooting whatever weapon they choose for sport. I just don't agree with people keeping such lethal weapons in their homes.

Milkman's point is so good it's worth repeating:

The only people that would stop owning/carrying them IMO, would be law-abiding citizens, giving the criminals a lot more power.

Making it an offence for anyone other than law enforcement to carry a gun outside a recognised firing range, with say a ten year term, would enable the cops to clear a lot of unwanted people off the streets PDQ.

^But did you know that only about 1% of people carrying illegal firearms are ever caught.

Originally Posted by Thormaturge

I see no need for ordinary civilians to own guns unless they belong to properly controlled clubs where the guns are kept.

You sound like a real control freak, up to you what I can have in my home

Originally Posted by Thormaturge

Does the right to bear arms extend to nuclear weapons?

Now you sound like an idiot..

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

How an ambiguous bit of text from the 1700's relates to the modern world is beyond me.

But since it is in the US constitution it is none of your business anyway and there is no need for you to go there either.

Originally Posted by Thormaturge

If Americans are prepared to live with that risk then fine. Frankly I'm not, although I have no objection to people shooting whatever weapon they choose for sport. I just don't agree with people keeping such lethal weapons in their homes.

If you do not like to live in a free country where you are free to have in your home what you wish to have then go to countrys where you have few personal freedoms and you feel safer, kinda like Thailand where it is the cops who decide who has a gun in his house and who don't, do you feel safer now??

Originally Posted by chinthee

Milkman's point is so good it's worth repeating: Quote: The only people that would stop owning/carrying them IMO, would be law-abiding citizens, giving the criminals a lot more power.

As long as guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns. Just like in mexico where cars are stopped on the roads at night and the people shot and robbed because the bad guys know who got guns and who don't.

Originally Posted by Thormaturge

Making it an offence for anyone other than law enforcement to carry a gun outside a recognised firing range, with say a ten year term, would enable the cops to clear a lot of unwanted people off the streets PDQ.

Boy that would sure stop the terrorist shit wouldn't it,, coarse most of the terror is done not with sporting weapons but with 50 KG powder packs and rockets.. But you keep making noises likle that and someone will cover you up.

Fek, you guys just made me want to go back to the farm to load up and shoot. Dam right I have a right to own a gun and shoot it, too. Somebody comes on the folks' farm property, takes the RCMP a couple hours to respond. Shoot the marauders if they come busting into your home. End of fekin story. Read "In Cold Blood".

I can see how that would be the case where you have to distinguish between legal andf illegal, but where there are no legal arms even the LAPD should be able to figure out that the people carrying arms must be carrying them illegally. Either that or the cops could just round up all the black people on a regular basis and search them. I mean, they aren't going to round up white people....

Originally Posted by Thormaturge

Making it an offence for anyone other than law enforcement to carry a gun outside a recognised firing range, with say a ten year term, would enable the cops to clear a lot of unwanted people off the streets PDQ.

While you are thinking along those lines,, why not just arrest everyone that has a gun and is not licensed to have one??
maybe if the laws were supported that there are on the books, there would be no illegal gun owners or users.