Thread: Who's killing who?

The Book of Joshua, Holy Bible, entire first chapter contains more on the subject of the land being given to Israel.

Originally Posted by Milkman

...You're a Christian, and that's about as bad, in my book.

Fine remark, about as bad though not quite, eh?

Originally Posted by machangezi

Originally Posted by ceburat

the land belongs to Israel. Given to them by God so no rag head is going to take it away from them regardless of how long they fight.

Would you mind showing us the contract signed by the holiest amongst us and God almighty himself??

Did they also get the license to kill and destroy all the population living there before them??

There is no contract - none needed. What God orders is it. (period) His every wish should be your command.

God gave the land to Israel and had the population killed off that where already living there because of their sinfullness. The worshiping of strange god's.

If the population of this world followed the one true living God, The Lord Jesus Christ, there would be no wars, terrorist, etc.

Thats correct,, God told the Jews to go there," Kill all the men, take the women, children and the crops for your own."
Thats exactly what he said,, well I was told thats what he said anyway.

Originally Posted by keda

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by keda

You are in essence saying, and do correct me if I am wrong, that it is because it can be said to have been, according to whoever wishes to interpret your argument in whichever way it seems most prudent to however they'd like to dishonestly sway their audience, right? Well done.

Well sorry but I'm going to have to correct you then. That's merely semantics - and it's telling that you don't debate the point merely the way I stated the point. None of which changes a jot. All it does it obfuscate the point.

I think certain rabid allahwallahs on this very board would you believe, refer to such tactical use of the English language as the basis for a strawman argument, though of course that cannot possibly be the case, right?

Ironically enough choosing to take issue with six words in that entire post constitutes a strawman argument.

It happens to be the very six words upon which you based a fallacious argument. Still, you either cannot or will not see that, so go on, your turn...

Classic! You cherry-pick 6 words from my post, tell me I'm wrong, and yet still haven't actually addressed the argument. Why don't you address the actual points raised, keda?

Did you use "straw man" because you know what it means, or just becaues you thought it sounded good?

Originally Posted by ceburat

but, the land belongs to Israel.

not for long.

it will be wiped of the map sooner rather than later....and there's no reason to kill all the israelis...just the fundamentalist psychotics that won't leave.

Originally Posted by ceburat

Want a link? The Holy Bible

save the biblical mumbo jumbo for the tourists.

Originally Posted by ceburat

Originally Posted by machangezi

Originally Posted by ceburat

the land belongs to Israel. Given to them by God so no rag head is going to take it away from them regardless of how long they fight.

Would you mind showing us the contract signed by the holiest amongst us and God almighty himself??

Did they also get the license to kill and destroy all the population living there before them??

There is no contract - none needed. What God orders is it. (period) His every wish should be your command.

God gave the land to Israel and had the population killed off that where already living there because of their sinfullness. The worshiping of strange god's.

If the population of this world followed the one true living God, The Lord Jesus Christ, there would be no wars, terrorist, etc.

You are exactly right.

Originally Posted by lotus

Originally Posted by ceburat

Originally Posted by machangezi

Originally Posted by ceburat

the land belongs to Israel. Given to them by God so no rag head is going to take it away from them regardless of how long they fight.

Would you mind showing us the contract signed by the holiest amongst us and God almighty himself??

Did they also get the license to kill and destroy all the population living there before them??

There is no contract - none needed. What God orders is it. (period) His every wish should be your command.

God gave the land to Israel and had the population killed off that where already living there because of their sinfullness. The worshiping of strange god's.

If the population of this world followed the one true living God, The Lord Jesus Christ, there would be no wars, terrorist, etc.

You are exactly right.

Only if you happen to believe in god and that everyone else should also.

And that's exactly the sort of beliefs that lead to wars.

the nation of israel was and is a mistake. why keep throwing good money after bad?

let's not forget that it's only 60 years old. and speaking of mistakes, booner and blackgang are older than israel.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by lotus

Originally Posted by ceburat

Originally Posted by machangezi

Originally Posted by ceburat

the land belongs to Israel. Given to them by God so no rag head is going to take it away from them regardless of how long they fight.

Would you mind showing us the contract signed by the holiest amongst us and God almighty himself??

Did they also get the license to kill and destroy all the population living there before them??

There is no contract - none needed. What God orders is it. (period) His every wish should be your command.

God gave the land to Israel and had the population killed off that where already living there because of their sinfullness. The worshiping of strange god's.

If the population of this world followed the one true living God, The Lord Jesus Christ, there would be no wars, terrorist, etc.

You are exactly right.

Only if you happen to believe in god and that everyone else should also.

And that's exactly the sort of beliefs that lead to wars.

God create everything perfect for
start with but man make it different.

Originally Posted by lotus

God create everything perfect for start with but man make it different.

That's all good and well, but again you seem to have missed the point. That only holds true if you happen to believe in god and clearly not everyone does.

Originally Posted by raycarey

the nation of israel was and is a mistake. why keep throwing good money after bad?

let's not forget that it's only 60 years old. and speaking of mistakes, booner and blackgang are older than israel.

God does not make mistakes, therefore, the Nation of Israel was not a mistake. God created Israel, not the UK or UN. They just tried to repair things May 14th, 1948.

60 is young. I passed that long ago.

Originally Posted by ceburat

Originally Posted by raycarey

the nation of israel was and is a mistake. why keep throwing good money after bad?

let's not forget that it's only 60 years old. and speaking of mistakes, booner and blackgang are older than israel.

God does not make mistakes, therefore, the Nation of Israel was not a mistake. God created Israel, not the UK or UN. They just tried to repair things May 14th, 1948.

60 is young. I passed that long ago.

Nobody older to know true God.

God create everything perfect for
start with but man make it different.

God does not make mistakes, therefore, the Nation of Israel was not a mistake. God created Israel, not the UK or UN. They just tried to repair things May 14th, 1948.

Hey! Boon Mee! This is where I now refer to myself as a member of the reality based community and say that Israel is a racist, settler state, that the Palestinians have been sold-out by the international community and that people who think it's all God's will are probably psychotic. You see, that's how you use the expression.

Originally Posted by ceburat

God does not make mistakes, therefore, the Nation of Israel was not a mistake. God created Israel, not the UK or UN

Excellent! So we can blame god for all the misery and death that has been caused! I just knew someone, somewhere was to blame!!

Not believing in God. Not believing in religion, etc does not make a person bad. It just shows the lack of true direction/information in their lives. How can you believe in the Bible or God if you have never been introduced to either by a REAL CHRISTIAN. There is too much trash out there about God and the Bible. I read it on here everyday. I have a friend who lives in Bangkok. He is in US now and will return next month. I am trying to convience him to get on here and answer questions and comments for teakdoor members. He is somewhat of an expert on the Bible. He does not argue and fight. Simply provides the truth for those interested.

Originally Posted by ceburat

Not believing in God. Not believing in religion, etc does not make a person bad. It just shows the lack of true direction/information in their lives.

What a crock. You might could just as easily say that believing in religion doesn't make you a bad person but it shows a lack of intellectual capacity and a fear in their lives.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by ceburat

God does not make mistakes, therefore, the Nation of Israel was not a mistake. God created Israel, not the UK or UN

Excellent! So we can blame god for all the misery and death that has been caused! I just knew someone, somewhere was to blame!!

The wages of sin is death - so says God.

If we as a people don't want to suffer, die, etc. then we should obey God.

All of this misery and death is caused by man's sin.

I'm sure he (or is that He?) will be well received on the next Sunday school question-and-answer session but - and I'm being pretty generous here - biblical exegesis is not entirely relevant to a sane discussion of the occupation of Palestine, is it.

Originally Posted by ceburat

If we as a people don't want to suffer, die, etc. then we should obey God.

This would be the same god that has variously wiped out entire cities, told someone to sacrifice his son, and generally been an absentee landlord then? Excellent.

Are you taking the piss?

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by ceburat

Not believing in God. Not believing in religion, etc does not make a person bad. It just shows the lack of true direction/information in their lives.

What a crock. You might could just as easily say that believing in religion doesn't make you a bad person but it shows a lack of intellectual capacity and a fear in their lives.

What you said and what I said are two different things. I am sure you have the intelectual capacity to learn the truth. You have just never been taught the truth so how are you to know it.

Originally Posted by Gerontion

I'm sure he (or is that He?) will be well received on the next Sunday school question-and-answer session but - and I'm being pretty generous here - biblical exegesis is not entirely relevant to a sane discussion of the occupation of Palestine, is it.

It is is you are to ever come to understand that there is no occupation of Palestine--Israel already owns the place.

Originally Posted by ceburat

What you said and what I said are two different things. I am sure you have the intelectual capacity to learn the truth. You have just never been taught the truth so how are you to know it.

Gerontion is right, your evangelical preaching doesn't belong in this thread/topic. If you want to tell everyone that they are stupid and don't know the truth why don't you go and start your own thread.


All that notwithstanding I know the truth. The universe was created by a Flying Spaghetti Monster. It was He who created all that we see and all that we feel. We feel strongly that the overwhelming scientific evidence pointing towards evolutionary processes is nothing but a coincidence, put in place by Him.

We have evidence that a Flying Spaghetti Monster created the universe. None of us, of course, were around to see it, but we have written accounts of it. We have several lengthy volumes explaining all details of His power.


P.S. I have included an artistic drawing of Him creating a mountain, trees, and a midget. Remember, we are all His creatures.

^^ I'm sure you knit lovely sweaters or make delicious jam or take in stray kittens, or... well, I'm sure you have nice qualities but that statement's just fucking mental.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by ceburat

If we as a people don't want to suffer, die, etc. then we should obey God.

This would be the same god that has variously wiped out entire cities, told someone to sacrifice his son, and generally been an absentee landlord then? Excellent.

Are you taking the piss?

God told Abraham to sacrifice his own son. However, he, God, did not allow him to do it. God was only testing Abraham's faith.

As to cities being wiped out - true. Stop sin as a nation and the destruction will stop.

I don't understand the expression"Are you taking the piss?" I speak American English.