Thread: Selling TEFL courses

Originally Posted by Lily

Originally Posted by Smeg

But kk will lie to your face, all in the name of making a living the only way he knows. There is a difference.

Whereas you only tell blantant lies to bolster your own ego on a forum.

You'll have to run this usual tactic of moving the spotlight off your sly buddy and onto me in more detail lillybean.

Are you trying to tell me that my actions of creating the occasional username to raise the type of topics than bangkok shill prefers to sweep under the carpet and hardcore TEFLers don't like to think about, hence which get branded as "trolling", is a major crime (or somehow related to boosting my ego), and yet kenkannif concealing the fact that he is a TEFL course salesman for Text and Talk whilst lurking on ajarnform day in day out to latch onto newbies by first handing them some "friendly advice" followed by then trying to financially exploit their lack of knowledge on TEFL in Thailand due to the mass of uncertainty that exists is perfectly honourable behaviour?

I hear that you are heading back to Oz soon. Good idea, as Thailand has obviously depleted you of any sanity.

^ Oh shi.t... there goes the Aussie IQ - down the drain.

Originally Posted by NokTang

Originally Posted by FatBoyEric

Can you show us some evidence please as I for one would love to see some.

I was the one who offered to wager, so that is first hand information.

However, you can make the first move if so inclined. Simply ask him if he has ever said it or not. If he says "not" then I'll track it down assuming the forum keeps old postings. Since my handle was banned I don't know if the posts have been deleted. In any and all events, the bottom line is how these courses are marketed. It is with excitement and deception, not with educational purposes. You need look no further than the practice of luring in prospects using the help wanted sections of the newspaper and site itself. If it were an educational offering why decieve in the help wanted section?

I don't have much time this week but will contribute more next week if the matter remains of interest to you.

Nok the Kook

Right then, I've had a response from kk. I think it may all be a mis-understanding.

This is NOT a quote from kk, just my abridged interpretation.

Apparantly some places do require a TEFL (private language schools like ECC often will tell you, you need one... but it will depend on the person at the MoE). It depends on where, who and what you're teaching. Also if you don't have a degree you'll most likely need one most of the time, again can depend on who, what and where you're teaching.

PS. I did see a job at the Ajarn last week which stated, 'Teacher applicants must have a college degree and teacher certification to obtain a Thai teachers license and work permit'. And I'm not lying.

Originally Posted by dirtydog

You a builder patrick?

just stating the facts richard

Originally Posted by Smeg

the occasional username

class!!

Originally Posted by Smeg

he is a TEFL course salesman for Text and Talk

ya he is..and why does it need to be repeated ad finitum on a builder's site smeg? ? ? ? ?

Originally Posted by FatBoyEric

the Ajarn

is that the forum that's mentioned more often here than sexy knickers and bras??

Originally Posted by Smeg

lurking on ajarnform day in day out to latch onto newbies

by first handing them some "friendly advice"

followed by then trying to financially exploit their lack of knowledge on TEFL in Thailand

is perfectly honourable behaviour?

You got stone cold proof of this ?

Originally Posted by DJ Pat

proof

what's that?

You got stone cold proof of this ?

If you are so fascinated by this stuff lillybean, start a thread on it and leave this thread on topic. I know you aren't very good at doing that, and have very little intelligence and insight to offer on forums, but please try. Alternatively, just post "what rot!" a few more hundred times under posts in which the opinion disgusts your small bigoted brain.

I'll guess you don't have a bachelor's degree as you don't even know how to spell it.

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Re: Teaching Qualifications - What are required?
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Originally Posted by Well
stand by what i wrote. in five years teaching english in thailand, the majority of my colleagues were either qulaified or very experienced.


Do you mean that the majority had a Batchelor's of Education or a degree and a Dip Ed (or whatever you call it in the UK)?

I have only worked with one native speaker who had a Batchelor of Education.

And lillybean, if you do start a thread about what you say above, some evidence of what you are saying would be appreciated. Don't try to use any old username that you and the ajarn cronies have banned for being suspected of being me, because more than half of those accused (and no doubt banned) are nothing to do with me.

Originally Posted by DJ Pat

Originally Posted by Smeg

But kk will lie to your face, all in the name of making a living the only way he knows. There is a difference.

This is a new one Smeg.

Did he lie to your face?

Yes, on a number of issues. I can't prove that, but I don't need to. Take a simple look at the Text and Talk banner on ajarn. It says "worldwide accreditation". Then do a few minutes of google research on that means and learn what an absolute crock of shit/con it is. He writes the ads and website (which is also full of numerous bullshit claims) and is full of it.

Originally Posted by Smeg

Yes, on a number of issues.
I can't prove that, but I don't need to.

Take a simple look at the Text and Talk banner on ajarn. It says "worldwide accreditation". Then do a few minutes of google research on that means and learn what an absolute crock of shit/con it is.

He writes the ads and website (which is also full of numerous bullshit claims) and is full of it.

Seems that they have made a lot of cash from their claims, seeing as they (Text and Talk) are a crock of shit.

Is this a jealousy issue?

Losing it now Smeggles!

Originally Posted by FatBoyEric

Apparantly some places do require a TEFL (private language schools like ECC often will tell you, you need one... but it will depend on the person at the MoE). It depends on where, who and what you're teaching. Also if you don't have a degree you'll most likely need one most of the time, again can depend on who, what and where you're teaching.

PS. I did see a job at the Ajarn last week which stated, 'Teacher applicants must have a college degree and teacher certification to obtain a Thai teachers license and work permit'. And I'm not lying.

Okay, fine and dandy. There was no misunderstanding at the time his bluff was called. However, suffice to say the MoE doesn't get involved unless a TL being issued. Even then, well never mind. It would as you indicate depend which WP office and the mood of the day etc.. I previously said SOME Thai's consider the Thai issued TEFL certificate was or is equalivant to a legitimate college degree. They may know better but I doubt it in some cases. If the motive is to make money always "beware". Cheers. Nok the Kook

Originally Posted by Lily

Losing it now Smeggles!

You are quite right. I don't know what has come over me and caused me to waste my time communicating with an ignorant bigoted bitchy biased non-degreed arrogrant ajarnforum janitor. It won't happen again.

And? What's next then?

next will be a more unfunny reactive shit from either you or lillith.

Pat, do you think this outburst that got the thread closed was about kk or someone else who works for a TEFL school?

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I've analysed this thread and here are my conclusions without naming names:

1. The original post contained the word 'perse'. There's only one poster here who regulary uses this incorrect spelling of a very rarely used piece of the English language.

2. The OP received a response within 3 minutes. It would take me a lot longer than this to read the and digest the OP and then write a response. And then I would have to notice there's a new thread first - incredible! There are further examples of the OP's (Dalacin) posts being responded to within a very short time.

3. Who would gain from TEFL Int. being damaged? Well, other TEFL providers obviously

4. Does the usual suspect work for a TEFL provider? YES!

There's more, but you can pm for it if you're interested.

What will happen now? The usual suspect will silently complain to friendly moderators and have this thread binned. The usual suspect will have his colleagues at his TEFL course respond to my post by trying to belittle it.

Originally Posted by Smeg

Pat, do you think this outburst that got the thread closed was about kk or someone else who works for a TEFL school?

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^^^Some masturbation material for ya later Smeg.

You can just use my av mate

Originally Posted by Smeg

You can just use my av mate

But the most attractive person in your av is the bearded man and I'm not gay, so I'm in for a long, floppy night.

This thread is NOT a great advertisement for the TD teachers forum. But then perhaps I missing the point of the forum.

Originally Posted by Smeg

a backstreet school in Bangkok which can no longer afford its prominent Bangkok Post banner.


He hates the fact that he can't just get on with manipulating newbies because people like me constantly let on and rock his little boat, and for that he has masses of venom towards me. He has managed to build a little group of friends around him to protect him, via clowing and entertaining, handing out visa letters, doing favours etc (i.e. the Thai way of making friends rather than the British way in my opinion), because he knows he needs them to back him up to keep his little schemes going.

I noticed the ad had diminished in size and placement. FYI, the "other" TEFL provider which advertises alot on the other site has some sort of "agency" deal going, lists jobs then says you have to pay them to get the certificate etc., same ol bullshit. I find this deceptive as well. Do you? I mean, these ads in the help wanted sections just have always seemed out of place to me big time. That is where people LOOKING FOR WORK read, not where people looking for an educational enrichment deal look. It seems very unprofessional to me, but maybe I'm alone in that sentiment?

Yes, like you, anytime I posted the truth I got banned or worse, called names like "idiot" etc..

cheers. Nok