Thread: You can't make this up or can you?

What's that got to do with the cartoons?

Also, as one of the less mentally imbibed posters, you seem to have missed my crossreference to attaboy's comment in the other thread.
Never mind, I am sure he understands it...

I can remember singing "Onward Christian Soliders" at primary school. The chapel had shrine to the martyrs who died in WW1 and 2 ( I went to a posh school)

Yes, plausible, some may well think like this, but is this guy representative? How reliable is the word of a defector?

The 'official' justification for 7/7 has no ambiguity, it was revenge for Britain's involvement in the Iraq invasion.

There would still be Islamic inspired violent extremism in the UK without the Iraq war, but these particular acts would not have happened, IMO.

I mean, we got similar extremist networks all over Europe, but why has there been a string of bombings in the UK, and not Germany, for example?

I don't know knun stroller. During the 70s the war was carried out on continental Europe. The UK seemed to have an unwritten agreement not to fk with Palestinians living on the island as long as they did not bring their work home with them.

Another news blurb. This one goes under "stop imagining things".

Iran rejects Stone film request
02/07/2007 14:38 - (SA)


Tehran - Iran has rejected a request by United States filmmaker Oliver Stone to make a film about President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the website of the news network Press TV reported on Sunday.

Ahmadinejad's media advisor, Mehdi Kalhor, said that Stone had requested to make a film about Ahmadinejad which was however rejected by the president.

"We have already seen his documentaries - even though Stone is considered a member of the opposition group in the US, it is still part of the Great Satan," he said.

'Imperialistic policies'

Since the 1979 Islamic revolution, Iran has branded the US as the "Great Satan" for what Iran calls imperialistic policies worldwide.
"We believe American cinema is void of real art and culture and largely used as a mouthpiece," he added.

Despite the remarks by Kalhor, Stone is regarded within cinema circles in Islamic Iran as a distinguished filmmaker. - dpa




Did you get the message Ollie? You haven't distinguished yourself. You're just another part of the Great Satan bitter melon pie. In western terms: You're part of their problem. Stop projecting your western reasoning onto the governing force of Iran and honestly listen to what they say.

From The Times
July 10, 2007


Muslim juror ‘listened to iPod under hijab’

A woman juror has been arrested after she was allegedly caught listening to an MP3 player hidden beneath her hijab during a murder trial.

The Muslim woman, who cannot be named for legal reasons, is accused of concealing the device beneath her headscarf so that she could listen to music during the testimony of a man who bludgeoned his disabled wife to death.

Judge Roger Chapple, presiding, said that he thought he could hear “tinny music” in the courtroom at Blackfriars Crown Court in Central London, but dismissed it as a figment of his imagination until another juror sent him a note.



The woman was arrested for contempt of court on the direction of the judge on June 27 and is bailed to appear at the court before Judge Aidan Marron on July 23. The arrest can only be reported now after Alan Wicks, 72, the defendant at the trial, was convicted yesterday.

The juror, who is in her early twenties, was discharged by Judge Chapple and given warning that her behaviour, if proved, would amount to contempt of court. Outside the court she was searched by a police officer and an MP3 player was confiscated.

It is thought to be the first time that a juror has been accused of listening to music during a trial. John Cooper, a criminal barrister, said that people found guilty of contempt received an average of three years in prison. “It follows a long pedigree of contempt cases including jurors falling asleep and, in one case, jurors who used a Ouija board before they found a defendant guilty,” he said.

The woman had allegedly tried repeatedly to avoid jury service. She managed to postpone serving when she received her first summons and successfully avoided serving a second time by claiming to have toothache. On the third occasion she asked to be excused so that she could attend a nursing course but was obliged to serve when she failed to provide details.

She took an oath to try Wicks, a pensioner who was sentenced to a minimum of 11 years yesterday for murdering his wife of 50 years, but drew criticism from Judge Chapple after she arrived late at court repeatedly.

Peter Clarke, QC, for the prosecution, requested on Thursday that the juror be discharged, but his application was refused by the judge because discharges should follow only for “very, very serious . . . improper behaviour”. The next day a member of the defence team thought that she saw a wire under the woman’s head covering. Another juror passed the judge a note during a break for lunch alleging that her colleague had been listening to music during the defendant’s testimony.

The judge called the Muslim juror into court on her own and told her of the allegation. He said: “You are going to be discharged from this jury. You will play no further role.”

The remaining 11 members of the jury found Wicks guilty of murder. Judge Chapple told the defendant: “This was a ferocious and dreadful attack. Murders are often described as brutal, but it seems to me that description is entirely justified in this case.

“The force used was substantial - a minimum of 11 heavy blows to the skull. You then sought to spin a web of lies and deceit to cover your tracks and seek to avoid detection, but as this jury has found that was as false as it was elaborate.”

He told Wicks, who has suffered a series of minor strokes and now faces the prospect of dying in prison, that he would have to serve at least 11 years before being considered for parole.

Originally Posted by attaboy

I don't know knun stroller. During the 70s the war was carried out on continental Europe. The UK seemed to have an unwritten agreement not to fk with Palestinians living on the island as long as they did not bring their work home with them.

"War", what war?
Also: PLO in the 70s and recent Al Qaeda inspired Pakistani extremists - two different kettle of fish.

^But one combined mission- give us back the rump of our country, Israel.

^^The ongoing war with Isreal. The palestinians dragged Europe into it to gain attention.

From The Times
July 11, 2007

Briton marries bin Laden’s son



A British woman has married a son of Osama bin Laden after a holiday romance and is to apply for a visa so that he can visit Britain, The Times has learnt.

Jane Felix-Browne, a 51-year-old grandmother and parish councillor from Cheshire, has until now kept her marriage to Omar Ossama bin Laden, 27, secret from everyone apart from her immediate family and close friends. But she has now agreed to speak about her relationship with bin Laden’s fourth eldest son.

“It would be nice if, like any other married woman, I could stand up and say this is my husband and this is his name, but I have to be realistic about things,” she told The Times. “I hope people don’t judge me too harshly. I married the son, not the father.”


Mrs Felix-Browne says she is aware that some people will be hostile to her marriage. Among the numerous terrorist plots linked to her new father-in-law are the London suicide bombings on July 7, 2005, the July 21 plot, and the recent attempted attacks in London and Glasgow. “I just married the man I met and fell in love with – to me he is just Omar,” she said. “I hope that people will take a step back and think what it was like when they fell in love. He is the most beautiful person I have ever met. His heart is pure, he is pious, quiet, a true gentleman, and he is my best friend.”

Mrs Felix-Browne, who has been married five times previously, met Mr bin Laden in Egypt in September while undergoing treatment for multiple sclerosis. She says that their fairytale romance began when her future husband saw her riding a horse near the Great Pyramid. They were married in Islamic ceremonies in Egypt and Saudi Arabia and are awaiting permission from the authorities in Riyadh to make their marriage official.

Mrs Felix-Browne is still coming to terms with the practical difficulties of being the daughter-in-law of a man with a $25 million (£12.5 million) bounty on his head. “Omar is wary of everyone. He is constantly watching people who he feels might be following him. Not without reason he is fearful of cameras. He is the son of Osama,” she said. “But when we are together he forgets his life.”

Mrs Felix-Browne already knew some members of the bin Laden family through her Islamic marriage to a Saudi man in London when she was 16. She believes that she actually met Osama bin Laden at a party in London in the 1970s.

Omar bin Laden left Saudi Arabia as a child when his father was expelled for his extremist beliefs, his wife said. Living in exile in Sudan and then Afghanistan, he saw at first hand the creation of al-Qaeda and its techniques. Mrs Felix-Browne said: “I never had any problem with his past. Omar did not do anything wrong. He was a child when he was in Afghanistan.”

She said that her husband left Afghanistan before the attacks on the US on September 11, 2001. However, some reports claim that he split from his father only after the attack on New York and an argument about tactics.

Mrs Felix-Browne insisted: “He last saw his father in 2000 when they were both in Afghanistan. He left his father because he did not feel it was right to fight or to be in an army. Omar was training to be a soldier and he was only 19.

“He told me he has had no contact with his father since the day he left him. He misses his father. Omar doesn’t know if it was his father who was responsible for the 9/11 attacks. I don’t think we will ever know.”

Apart from their religion the couple appear to have little in common. She has three sons and five grandchildren and is a respected parish councillor in the village of Moulton. She has had various jobs, including restoring houses and aircraft, and is a keen rider and scuba diver.

He works as a scrap metal dealer in Jedda and is one of at least 17 children fathered by bin Laden. His father’s reputation means that he has been ostracised by the wealthy and powerful bin Laden family and is under surveillance by the security services in Saudi Arabia.

Mrs Felix-Browne, who now uses the Islamic name Zaina Mohamad, says that she speaks to her husband for several hours every day over the internet or by telephone. During their conversations she refers to him repeatedly as “Habibi”, the Arabic for “my love”. She said: “I find it very difficult to live without him and I know he does too. But really we have the most normal life possible.”

She was aware before her marriage that her husband already had another wife and a two-year-old child. “I haven’t seen her but I have spoken to her for about an hour on the telephone,” she said. “She is fine about it.”

Mrs Felix-Browne was initially reluctant to discuss her new husband but news of their relationship inevitably began to leak out in Britain and the Middle East. “I don’t want any of my family distressed or upset by my actions,” she said. “I know that for everybody who likes me there will probably be a million enemies.”

Now she hopes that Mr bin Laden will come to Britain. “He would like to spend quite a bit of time here,” she said. “There is no reason why he should not come to live, but I don’t think he would like the weather.”

Mrs Felix-Browne said that the couple hoped to use their position to help to heal the wounds caused by her father-in-law. “All we want is peace in this world and I will do all I can to promote it.”

Some new 'diplomatic' possibilities open up there.

Will Bin Laden get a settlement visa for the UK?

If it's Daddy Bin Laden I'd say there would be a parade for him much like the one the peruvian govenment had for Guzman.

Squirrel Spy Ring? Thats Nuts!

Updated: 16:32, Thursday July 12, 2007
Police in Iran are reported to have taken 14 squirrels into custody - because they are suspected of spying.

Britain's latest secret weapon?

The rodents were found near the Iranian border allegedly equipped with eavesdropping devices.
The reports have come from the official Islamic Republic News Agency (IRNA).
When asked about the confiscation of the spy squirrels, the national police chief said: "I have heard about it, but I do not have precise information."
The IRNA said that the squirrels were kitted out by foreign intelligence services - but they were captured two weeks ago by police officers.

A Foreign Office source told Sky News: "The story is nuts."
But if true, this would not be the first time animals have been used to spy.
During World War II the Allied Forces used pigeons to fly vital intelligence out of occupied France.
More recently, US marines stationed in Kuwait have used chickens as a low-tech chemical detection system.
And it is well documented that dolphins have been used to seek out underwater mines.
It is even claimed that M15 once planned to recruit a team of specially-trained gerbils as a secret weapon to sniff out spies.

Originally Posted by attaboy

^^The ongoing war with Isreal. The palestinians dragged Europe into it to gain attention.

Europe is largely responsible for the problem, if we go back to 1917 and up until now.

The U.S. is also a very BIG part of this problem.

Originally Posted by keda

Pity, and just as the West are warming up to Azerbaijan (and its oil).

Wonder if some academic is about to discover a corelation between oil and political/religious/judicial/social lunacy/extremism.

hasn't bush already disovered that??

Mrs Felix-Browne, who now uses the Islamic name Zaina Mohamad, says that she speaks to her husband for several hours every day over the internet or by telephone. During their conversations she refers to him repeatedly as “Habibi”, the Arabic for “my love”. She said: “I find it very difficult to live without him and I know he does too. But really we have the most normal life possible.”

i can imagine.


come to the uk and deffo be under 24hr surviellance, i think you could spoil you most normal life by settling here

Go on then, join the bandwagon for the mindless, but do please explain why it is that the UK is such an awful place that so many people cross suitable countries throughout Europe and then risk their lives just to try and get into its borders.

Cackle sentiments such as yours (often coming from immigrants!) reminds me that some people are so thoroughly spoilt they'll curse the land that gives them what they cannot get elsewhere if only because it doesn't actually give them everything they could possibly desire.

Best response is to fcuk off back home then, and if home is England then fcuk off to where your parents ran away from.

Originally Posted by attaboy

While reading an article which began with Farfur the Mouse (he hosted the children's game show Tomorrow's Pioneers, broadcast on Hamas's Al-Aksa TV for palestinian television) at the bottom of page one I read this paragraph:

"Speaking to an Arab affairs expert on the reports that Islamic Jihad is threatening to send scores of women suicide bombers to blow themselves up near IDF troops if Israel starts an operation on the ground in Gaza, she enquired what awaited such women in heaven, the equivalent of the notorious 72 virgins ready to serve the male shahids. The answer: dwarves who will serve them. Even in jihadi heaven the women are discriminated against, it seems."


There you have it. Now we know.

Analysis: Hamas' Mickey Mouse 'Farfur' is not funny | Jerusalem Post

The nutters know who they are so there's no need to further embarass by naming them, but isn't it odd that on the one hand they'll demand links and proof for comments made against Islam or Muslims or in favour of civilisation, and then scrutinise and contest and if necessary simply reject whatever is inconvenient to their cause, and yet wholeheartedly believe in absurdities such as the 72 virgins whose pulchritude will be replenished at will?

I suppose I should now expect further degenerate filth in my email box from Macha and other cocksuckers of all...uh, you know who...is it only them, or do all muslims of their intellectual stature concede loss of credibility by taking refuge in the depraved?

How do the 72 virgins get up there?
They blew them self up..

What in the world is ray doing in Amsterdam?

Disturbed anti-war protester can't find soldier, kills civilian with axe instead