Thread: Exposing the Real Che Guevara and the Useful Idiots Who Idolize Him

Mao himself wasn't entirely bad either

And Stalin was a fun guy to be around if you liked to watch movies with him

Your point again ?

Sod it man, he looks good with a cigar in his mouth, what more do you fucking want?

If people had any sense they would wear Boon Me tee shirts!

Your link doesn't work boonie- it opens, but no Che article.
Anyway, to put things in perspective, I think Che is more of a pop art symbol of defiance than an actual figure of personal veneration. A radical chic icon if you like, but usually given the Warhol treatment.
He was a babe magnet though.

I watched the whole of that film, The Motorcycle diaries and thought - hey this guy has got the same nickname as that guy on all the posters.

it didn't click until the writing at the end.

Originally Posted by sabang

Your link doesn't work boonie- it opens, but no Che article.
Anyway, to put things in perspective, I think Che is more of a pop art symbol of defiance than an actual figure of personal veneration. A radical chic icon if you like, but usually given the Warhol treatment.
He was a babe magnet though.

Let's try it again

^ Got it.

Idealizing this scum bag is on a intellectual par to putting a Serpico mud flap on your truck.

I also found that film "Motorcycle Diaries" disingenuous propaganda by disguising who he really was.

Oy! Boonie! This thread has been done before, and if I remember rightly, you started that one too.
Regurgitating political threads. Shame on you!

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

I also found that film "Motorcycle Diaries" disingenuous propaganda by disguising who he really was.

who he 'really' was, huh?

and this is based on your personal experiences with che back in havana, right?

Originally Posted by Sir Burr

Oy! Boonie! This thread has been done before, and if I remember rightly, you started that one too.
Regurgitating political threads. Shame on you!

Where?
On TD or in the old TV at Bedlam?

I've not cited this current source before tho...

Here on TD, though I can't find the thread.

I wonder if he ever won beard of the year.

I think Mike Gatting did once.

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

Idealizing this scum bag is on a intellectual par to putting a Serpico mud flap on your truck.

I also found that film "Motorcycle Diaries" disingenuous propaganda by disguising who he really was.

If anything, by pointing out that he was a Doctor from a middle class Argentinian family who actually had little in common with the 'oppressed masses' I would have thought the opposite was the case. Neither do I recall a single political innuendo or statement in the film. Nor do I recall any reference at all to this Che' being Che Guevara until a footnote at the end.
Beautifully photographed film though- I enjoyed it.

In fact, I wouldn't be suprised if he won both Beard of the Year and Cigar Smoker of the year in the same year.

The onyl other man to have achieved this historic double being Rolf Harris

Originally Posted by Sir Burr

Here on TD, though I can't find the thread.

I thought Mhz started one about Che once?

Che?


Or Che'?

Look, a nice hat...



...a tattoo



...and some lovely baby clothes...



Now, just think what it would be like if they put Freddy mercury instead!

i rest my case

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Originally Posted by Sir Burr

Here on TD, though I can't find the thread.

I thought Mhz started one about Che once?

You're right. It was Mhz. My apologies Boon Mee (though he was a likely suspect).

Originally Posted by sabang

If anything, by pointing out that he was a Doctor from a middle class Argentinian family who actually had little in common with the 'oppressed masses' I would have thought the opposite was the case. Neither do I recall a single political innuendo or statement in the film. Nor do I recall any reference at all to this Che' being Che Guevara until a footnote at the end. Beautifully photographed film though- I enjoyed it.

did you even watch the movie earl?

Originally Posted by Sir Burr

Che just rode on Castro's coat-tails. He appeals to the romantics "Doctor from wealthy family gives it all up to help the down-trodden of the world". He was a lousy revolutionary when it came to military operations, totally inept. But, he was a doctor, not a soldier. He'll be remembered for the iconic image you see on so many T-shirts, not his accomplishments.

perhaps he wasn't the greatest military tactician, but he was integral force in ousting the batista regime.

btw, he is not responsible for his becoming an icon.

Originally Posted by Sir Burr

He'll be remembered for the iconic image you see on so many T-shirts, not his accomplishments.

"If people had any sense they would wear Boon Me tee shirts!" -- Flash

K. Flash has it right!

Originally Posted by sabang

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

Idealizing this scum bag is on a intellectual par to putting a Serpico mud flap on your truck.

I also found that film "Motorcycle Diaries" disingenuous propaganda by disguising who he really was.

If anything, by pointing out that he was a Doctor from a middle class Argentinian family who actually had little in common with the 'oppressed masses' I would have thought the opposite was the case. Neither do I recall a single political innuendo or statement in the film. Nor do I recall any reference at all to this Che' being Che Guevara until a footnote at the end.
Beautifully photographed film though- I enjoyed it.

That's the problem, I liked the film too. It's a an excellent film.
It simply surreptitiously idealizes a murderous scum-bag.
And this is just fine if you're from Hollywood.

Now this is devotion to Che!