^ I like that:
"We support our troops when they shoot officers."
I agree.![]()
^ I like that:
"We support our troops when they shoot officers."
I agree.![]()
...but it gives you something to respond to, doesn't it?Originally Posted by Boon Mee
Iraqis: life is getting better
Most Iraquis believe life is better for tham than it was under Saddam according to a British opinion poll published yesterday.
Yep...British poll - how 'bout them apples boys?![]()
Do you mean this opinion poll Boonie? :-
Pessimism 'growing among Iraqis'
69% of those polled said medical care provision was still poor
Iraqis are becoming increasingly pessimistic about the future of their country and unhappy about their lives, a survey suggests.
Less than 40% of those polled said things were good in their lives, compared to 71% two years ago.
However, a majority of those questioned said that, despite daily violence, they did not believe Iraq was in a state of civil war.
More than 2,000 people took part in the BBC/ABC News poll.
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Iraq poll in graphics
Poll analysis: Lessons for US
The poll paints a picture of an increasingly polarised Iraq, with acutely diverging views between Sunni Arabs and Shias - Sunnis appearing more pessimistic.
There are also regional differences, with pessimism most keenly felt across central Iraq, including Baghdad, where Sunni Arabs are most numerous.
But despite their differences, 58% overall said they wanted Iraq to remain a unified country. Almost all said they did not want Iraqi to be broken up along sectarian lines.
The poll produced conflicting views on the role of the US and its allies.
Only 18% said they had confidence in US and coalition troops, and 51% said they thought attacks on coalition forces were justified.
However, only 35% said foreign troops should leave Iraq now. A further 63% said they should go only after security has improved.
'Deteriorating lives'
The poll was commissioned by the BBC, ABC News, ARD German TV and USA Today. It was conducted by D3 Systems.
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People were questioned in more than 450 neighbourhoods and villages across all 18 provinces between 25 February and 5 March.
The findings contrast sharply with those of a similar poll in 2005, a year when elections were taking place.
Asked now whether they thought reconstruction efforts in Iraq had been effective, some 67% said they felt they had not.
And just 38% said the situation in the country was better than before the 2003 war, while 50% said it was worse.
Many said the quality of their lives was deteriorating, with a particularly high proportion (88%) saying electricity and fuel supplies were poor.
READ THE FINDINGS
Iraq Poll 2007 [468KB]
Security remains a serious concern, with only 26% saying they felt safe in their own neighbourhoods.
More than half of those polled said that they have not gone to markets or crowded areas and often stayed at home in order to avoid trouble.
Many said they often stopped their children from going to school.
Ethnic divide
Ethnic differences were particularly evident in attitudes towards the execution of Saddam Hussein, who was a Sunni leader in a predominantly Shia state.
WAS US RIGHT TO INVADE IRAQ?
Absolutely right:
2007: 22%
2005: 19%
2004: 20%
Somewhat right:
2007: 25%
2005: 28%
2004: 29%
Somewhat wrong:
2007: 19%
2005: 17%
2004: 13%
Absolutely wrong:
2007: 34%
2005: 33%
2004: 26%
Refused/don't know:
2007: 0%
2005: 4%
2004: 13%
Of Sunni Arabs questioned, more than 95% said they regarded the manner of his death as inappropriate and unlikely to help the cause of reconciliation.
Shias predominantly took the opposite view - 82% said the manner of death was appropriate.
But considerably fewer - 62% - thought his execution would lead to reconciliation.
A large number of Sunnis, 48%, said they thought Iraq should have a strong leader in five years' time, compared to 46% who said they wanted a democracy.
Only 11% of Shias sought a strong leader, with 52% calling for democracy and 37% for an Islamic state.
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Last edited by sabang; 20-03-2007 at 09:28 AM.
Ok, enough links there Sabang. Good idea to edit those out.
Interestingly John Simpson when to Mahdi city yesterday. He had to AVOID the US military as apparently they don't control this area. He said the local militia were in charge and just waiting for the troops to leave. It seemed pretty calm and there weren't any guns in sight, though there has been appalling violence here in recent times. Let's face it, the US and UK have done a right royal job of screwing Iraq for years to come.
The truth is out there, but then I'm stuck in here.
Links edited Wallace.
Article reproduced in full, as it appears to be the same survey Boonie referred to yet paints a very different picture.
The Mujahdeen got 9 of the Jews proxies in one strike! Good on 'em
Here's some interesting items you don't see posted 'round here, eh boys?
According to a recent USA Today/Gallup poll, 61% of Americans oppose “denying the funding needed to send any additional U.S. troops to Iraq,” and opposition is up from 58% in February. (3/23-25, 2007).
- A Bloomberg poll reveals 61% of Americans believe withholding funding for the war is a bad idea, while only 28% believe it is a good idea (3/3-11, 2007).
- A recent Public Opinion Strategies (POS) poll found that 56% of registered voters favor fully funding the war in Iraq, with more voters strongly favoring funding (40%) than totally opposing it (38%); (3/25-27, 2007).
- POS found also that a majority of voters (54%) oppose the Democrats imposing a reduction in troops below the level military commanders requested (3/25-27, 2007).
- A separate POS poll finds 57% of voters support staying in Iraq until the job is finished and “the Iraqi government can maintain control and provide security for its people.” And 59% of voters say pulling out of Iraq immediately would do more to harm America’s reputation in the world than staying until order is restored (35%); (2/5-7, 2007).
- A Fox News/Opinion Dynamics poll show 69% of American voters trust military commanders more than members of Congress (18%) to decide when United States troops should leave Iraq. This includes 52% of Democrats, 69% of Independents and 88% of Republicans (3/27-28, 2007).
- According to a recent Pew Research survey, only 17% of Americans want an immediate withdrawal of troops (4/18-22, 2007). That same poll found a plurality of adults (45%) believe a terrorist attack against the United States is more likely if we withdraw our troops from Iraq while the “country remains unstable”
An LA Times/Bloomberg polls reveals that 50% of Americans say setting a timetable for withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq “hurts” the troops, while only 27% believe it “helps” the troops (4/5-9, 2007)
- Should a date for withdrawal be set, 70% of American believe it is likely that “insurgents will increase their attacks in Iraq” starting on that day. This is supported by 85% of Republicans, 71% of Independents and 60% of Democrats. (FOX News/Opinion Dynamics, 4/17-18, 2007).
More here: Breaking the Ice at the Iraq Conference: Rice Approaches Syria and Iran - International - SPIEGEL ONLINE - NewsRice Approaches Syria and Iran
Thursday brought the first high-level contact between the United States and Syria in two years. Condoleezza Rice and her Syrian counterpart discussed the Iraq crisis and exchanged frank words as Baghdad discussed debt relief, ties with neighboring states and solutions to its imploding security situation.
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Although Washington's relations with Syria and Iran are frozen, the bipartisan Baker Commission recently urged US President George W. Bush to pull the two countries into the international community's talks to bring peace and stability to Iraq.
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Yeah, but the 'envoy' dissed her at dinner 'cause his sensitivities were offended by a 'scantilly clad' musician.
Welcome back to the Dark Ages...![]()
Why would they send such an intolerant diplomat? "Intolerant diplomat" is a bit of a contradiction.

MAY THE 4TH BE WITH YOU.Originally Posted by Boon Mee
And the text which follows is copied from "free republic", or where did you get it from?Originally Posted by Boon Mee
Indicate when you quote and from where or have the posts deleted in future.

From here:
The Corner on National Review Online
^^
the majority of the polling data in boner's post comes from the highly suspect POS--it is frequently cited by drudge, and then taken down because it's numbers don't add up).
"POS"....no, not piece of shit, but 'public opinion strategies...
Public Opinion Strategies (POS) describes itself as a "Republican polling firm". [1]Public Opinion Strategies - SourceWatchIn 2001, it was charged with violating Virginia's polling disclosure laws, and it has also been accused of using push polls to influence elections." [2]
Watch this video. It shows the 9/11 plot with testimonies of experts and pictures of the terrorists. How they looked like Westerners (watch their original clothes) and worked with Iraq to do 9/11. Check out how they were trained in Salman Pak, Iraq...
So much for the lies/spin etc that Saddam was not involved with Al Quaeda before 9/11...
boonie, boonie, boonie......there was no evidence of any operational contact between saddam and AQ. none. zero. zip.Originally Posted by Boon Mee
in fact, it defies logic that saddam would have anything to with AQ.....but then why should that suddenly get in the way?
fell free to provide any info you have to the contrary.....but spare us the same tired littlegreenfootballs blogs.
more interesting news from Baghdad
Originally Posted by WSJ
and you can spare us the constant questions of what are we are doing to support the troops. Show us what you are doing to support your beloved radical muslims that are not only killing Americans but the sunni and all the other muslims in this country of Irag. Are you enlisting yourself or your friends or family to fight against the ugly Americans, English or any others there? GO do your marathons or whatever crap you do and do us all a favor and shut the fuck up. All you ever preach is that the more Americans that die is that will make the war shorter.Originally Posted by raycarey
Is this going to be deleted also?
Eliminator
1986 Kawasaki 900
Even more interesting .
"Iran caught red-handed shipping arms to Taliban." By NATO officials.
This will make it a bit harder for the Lefties to ignore.![]()
What makes you think "Lefties" would want to ignore crucial information which isn't fabricated by right-wing blogs like the speculations you previously tried to pass as 'fact'.![]()
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