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    there you go.


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    Quote Originally Posted by surasak
    (PC2300 is not a standard memory type)
    It is

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom
    You've got a slow and dumb ramstick (no error cortection, not buffered, not registered).
    You can either buy another one of those, keywords Apacer PC2300 256MBytes for a total of 512.
    I would scrap it and buy 2 * 512MBytes of a better type..
    what type is that??

    could the crap stuff you are talking about have any connection to 3 lost hard drives in about 3 years??

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by lom
    You've got a slow and dumb ramstick (no error cortection, not buffered, not registered).
    You can either buy another one of those, keywords Apacer PC2300 256MBytes for a total of 512.
    I would scrap it and buy 2 * 512MBytes of a better type..
    what type is that??

    could the crap stuff you are talking about have any connection to 3 lost hard drives in about 3 years??
    i blame that on user incompetence

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by surasak
    (PC2300 is not a standard memory type)
    It is
    On what planet?




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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon
    what type is that??
    It all depends on what your mainboard can work with, don't you have a manual ?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon
    could the crap stuff you are talking about have any connection to 3 lost hard drives in about 3 years??
    Unlikely, even if the hard drive has been working a lot by swapping RAM data in and out when you reached your RAM limit.
    Heat is what usually takes them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by lom
    You've got a slow and dumb ramstick (no error cortection, not buffered, not registered).
    You can either buy another one of those, keywords Apacer PC2300 256MBytes for a total of 512.
    I would scrap it and buy 2 * 512MBytes of a better type..
    what type is that??

    could the crap stuff you are talking about have any connection to 3 lost hard drives in about 3 years??
    You need to buy either PC2100, PC2700, or PC3200. A Celeron won't particularly care about or use the higher speed stuff.

    Hell, christ, wait about a month and I'll personally deliver some that I have sitting around that I don't use. It'll cost you a beer or two

    Post your motherboard tab too please

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom
    It all depends on what your mainboard can work with, don't you have a manual ?
    I do.. yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by surasak
    On what planet?
    Why don't you google PC2300 if you don't believe me ?
    There are other mfgr than Kingston..

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    Quote Originally Posted by surasak
    Hell, christ, wait about a month and I'll personally deliver some that I have sitting around that I don't use. It'll cost you a beer or two
    that's a very generous offer, but I'm doing so much downloading and burning of stuff recently, i'm not sure I can wait.

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    I can't find PC2300 for sale by any reputable memory manufacturer. Crucial doesn't sell it. Supertalent doesn't sell it. Kingston doesn't. It isn't for sale on Newegg.com, ZipZoomFly.com, Memorystock.com, Memory-Configurator.com, etc.

    Maybe you are confusing it with PC3200?

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    Quote Originally Posted by surasak
    You need to buy either PC2100, PC2700, or PC3200
    ok.
    and they come in differnt speeds right?
    and I need 512 rams.

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    Get 1GB. Trust me, it will be better than 512. I'm using 512 right now in the computer I rebuilt and it's rather miserable IMHO.

    PC2100, PC2700, PC3200 are the relative speeds (the number actually refers to the theoretical bandwidth of the memory...the amount of data that can pass through the memory).

    PC2100 = 2x133MHz RAM, PC2700 = 2x166MHz RAM, PC3200 = 2x200MHz RAM (the 2x is where the term DDR - double data rate - originates). These numbers tend to be interchangeable at your PC retailer. PC2100 might be sold as DDR266, PC2700 might be sold as DDR333, and PC3200 might be sold as DDR400. Confused yet?

    Your Celeron's bus speed is 100MHz (technically it's 400MHz but we won't get into that- as far as the motherboard is concerned it's 100MHz), thus, the PC2100 will be fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by surasak
    Maybe you are confusing it with PC3200?
    No.

    Corsair and Viking are two manufacturers.
    Viking was one of the first companies to sell memory upgrade kits for just about every computer from a PC to a mainframe, long before Kingston started.

    You can read about them memsticks if you google instead of looking at online computer shop url's.

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    I always enjoy Surasak and Lom's erm.. discussions.

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    I did. Nothing comes up for Corsair and PC2300 other than some posts on some forums and a random listing on ebay where the numbers are obviously switched (DDR400 as shown must be PC3200 and not PC2300 as the auction claims)

    Viking? Same thing. Nothing listed on their site (and they still have PC2100/2700/3200 listed).

    I stand by my contention as posted that PC2300 is not a standard memory type unless you can prove otherwise.
    Last edited by man with no head; 06-04-2007 at 11:59 PM.

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    Search for yourself: the JEDEC specifications for DDR memory (hint: there is no standard for anything remotely called PC2300/142):

    http://download.micron.com/pdf/misc/JEDEC79R2.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by surasak
    You need to buy either PC2100, PC2700, or PC3200
    ok.
    and they come in differnt speeds right?
    and I need 512 rams.
    Yes, 512 of these:



    But you'd better make sure what the max size you can put in each slot is. My old lap top can only take 2 sticks of 128 MB each stick, which is why it runs so slowly.

    So don't buy a 1 GB or 512 MB stick if your PC can't use it.

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    He's got a Celeron socket 478; he's fine with 1GB in any slot (the motherboard likely supports 2GB-4GB).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon View Post

    could the crap stuff you are talking about have any connection to 3 lost hard drives in about 3 years??
    You mean hard drive failures or simply losing data?

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    Quote Originally Posted by surasak View Post
    He's got a Celeron socket 478; he's fine with 1GB in any slot (the motherboard likely supports 2GB-4GB).
    I think you should start a thread like "The Best PC For Your Money" and tell us what you would put in it and why. I'm sure it would be a 100+ post thread!

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    if you don;t have the manual take the fuckin machine down to the shop tell 'em you want 512 RAM and let 'em install it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by friscofrankie
    if you don;t have the manual take the fuckin machine down to the shop tell 'em you want 512 RAM and let 'em install it.
    But copy any valuable files, pictures or movies to DVDs before you do. 'Cos if Somchai says he'll back stuff up for you before he does anything, he's lying.

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    Ram replacement takes, at most, four minutes you stand over him while he does it. it boots, the ram registers. go home

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    Quote Originally Posted by friscofrankie
    Ram replacement takes, at most, four minutes you stand over him while he does it. it boots, the ram registers. go home
    Well at MediaMagic in Computer Plaza it took them a week, they deleted all my files and programs and gave me back a computer full of shit I didn't want and completely empty of the things I did want...

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