Thread: Obama is Insane..

Originally Posted by Missismiggins

what I really cannot understand is the blind defending of something that is on a path to destroy you, when you don't even begin to examine the very very basic facts!

Hyperbole much? Who is defending anything, certainly not me. I'm merely giving my opinion on the objective evidence as it is.

But I do know that I've not once been threatened by a Jewish person and that I find intolerance, bigotry and ignorance to be much more pervasive and imminent dangers.

You seem to have no opinion other than what is stereotyped on you from your schooldays by cretins that were only able to get a job "Teaching"s they were unfit to do the actual job!

Well it clearly helps you to dismiss the opinions of others out-of-hand with no actual basis like that so it would be remiss of me to point out that the very same could be said of you and in relation to your views.

Please, just have a read of some of the articles, it paints a different picture...you can still disagree, but at least you disagree after reading the evidence, as opposed to blithley spouting on things that you won't even look at. Ant...just a read...4 score years and 10, surely you can spare a few hours to read? ...then, if you disagree, maybe a few more hours to check a few citations...why not?

Your plea is premised on the misconception that I (and others) are ignorant of the topic; the necessary corollary and inference being that you, and you alone, are somehow magically possessed of the 'truth'.

It's a fallacy, I'm very well informed on the topic thanks. And I don't need your constant directions to read this article or that link, particularly when you yourself have repeatedly demonstrated a reluctance to so much as even consider anything that's contrary to your opinion.

And all that notwithstanding this is the perfect example of what I referred to as your agenda in my first post - the discussion was obstensibly about a murder that you'd somehow linked to Zionism and that's the point I directly addressed. Yet here we are, no more than one post by you later, and you've somehow managed to twist it even further into an open-ended and broad attack on all things 'Jew'.

To be honest, that is besides the pint, better go and read that book I posted, it is a bit more interesting than looking at numbers of blacks that did what to whites and what whites did to blacks.

Originally Posted by Missismiggins

Take a look here... you can check this it is from US Government figures...does it sort of "equal" out or not...

Sex Race

Age Total Male Female Unknown White Black Other Unknown
Total 17,040 10,975 1,206 4,859 5,278 6,463 245 5,054
Percent 100.0 64.4 7.1 28.5 31.0 37.9 1.4 29.7
Under 18 1,063 981 80 2 372 663 21 7
Under 22 3,845 3,574 264 7 1,403 2,321 82 39
18 and over2 10,146 9,023 1,098 25 4,766 5,038 218 124
Infant (under 1)0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
1 to 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
5 to 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
9 to 12 10 8 2 0 4 5 1 0
13 to 16 542 493 47 2 187 344 7 4
17 to 19 1,966 1,843 122 1 699 1,202 48 17
20 to 24 2,772 2,516 250 6 1,104 1,578 59 31
25 to 29 1,891 1,679 201 11 803 1,019 35 34
30 to 34 1,109 982 126 1 550 525 18 16
35 to 39 811 697 114 0 444 341 19 7
40 to 44 680 553 126 1 405 250 19 6
45 to 49 540 453 86 1 328 185 18 9
50 to 54 371 323 46 2 234 125 9 3
55 to 59 231 204 26 1 158 71 0 2
60 to 64 130 112 17 1 98 27 3 2
65 to 69 75 68 7 0 60 13 2 0
70 to 74 26 24 2 0 23 3 0 0
75 and over 55 49 6 0 41 13 1 0
Unknown 5,831 971 28 4,832 140 762 6 4,923

* 1 Because of rounding, the percentages may not add to 100.0.
* 2 Does not include unknown ages.

Well that came out well eh!

What I am saying is, why do you constantly try to defend something where all the evidence points against it?

Why would you try to twist facts?

Why can you not just take a subject, and discuss it... why does everything you seem to end up saying, become bogged down with loads of comments about racists, when all I want to do is understand the truth!

And the truth is not coming from your camp.

You immediately defend what every statistic disproves, (in the name of Political Correctness") then you side with the bastards that will force us to believe all this and never question anything.

When the world turns into Orwells nightmare...you will be sitting there with a rat strapped to your face thinking..."What did I do?...I am WITH YOU!!!!!!"

... WTF!?!

What in blue-blazes are you rambling on about? Christ, can you not maintain a logical and coherent debate even once!?

...all I want to do is understand the truth!

And the truth is not coming from your camp...

That right there sums up just what a waste of time it is trying to discuss anything with you; you claim to want to know the truth and then in the very next breath immediately dismiss anything that doesn't fit into the box you want it to as being false. Can you not even see how ironic that is, how close-minded??

It's a waste of time even trying to discuss anything with you and I should've known better - you've no interest in discussion, just rambling on your own self-reinforcing delusions.

I know it gets said a lot on internet forums, to the point of being cliched, but in all sincerity and honesty I don't think you're a very well man - you come across as mentally disturbed and unstable.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by Missismiggins

what I really cannot understand is the blind defending of something that is on a path to destroy you, when you don't even begin to examine the very very basic facts!

Hyperbole much? Who is defending anything, certainly not me. I'm merely giving my opinion on the objective evidence as it is.

But I do know that I've not once been threatened by a Jewish person and that I find intolerance, bigotry and ignorance to be much more pervasive and imminent dangers.

You seem to have no opinion other than what is stereotyped on you from your schooldays by cretins that were only able to get a job "Teaching"s they were unfit to do the actual job!

Well it clearly helps you to dismiss the opinions of others out-of-hand with no actual basis like that so it would be remiss of me to point out that the very same could be said of you and in relation to your views.

Please, just have a read of some of the articles, it paints a different picture...you can still disagree, but at least you disagree after reading the evidence, as opposed to blithley spouting on things that you won't even look at. Ant...just a read...4 score years and 10, surely you can spare a few hours to read? ...then, if you disagree, maybe a few more hours to check a few citations...why not?

Your plea is premised on the misconception that I (and others) are ignorant of the topic; the necessary corollary and inference being that you, and you alone, are somehow magically possessed of the 'truth'.

It's a fallacy, I'm very well informed on the topic thanks. And I don't need your constant directions to read this article or that link, particularly when you yourself have repeatedly demonstrated a reluctance to so much as even consider anything that's contrary to your opinion.

And all that notwithstanding this is the perfect example of what I referred to as your agenda in my first post - the discussion was obstensibly about a murder that you'd somehow linked to Zionism and that's the point I directly addressed. Yet here we are, no more than one post by you later, and you've somehow managed to twist it even further into an open-ended and broad attack on all things 'Jew'.

Your command of clever words enthralls me, but, let's keep it in small syllables, and simplistic terms...I never went to Oxford or Cambridge, and neither did you judging by your replies!

Originally Posted by Missismiggins

...So, let us take your right to free speech, and get up on a box in Hyde Park, say Speakers Corner, and start calling JESUS A LYING DEVIL [at][at][at][at] FROM HELL!

What will happen to you ANT? maybe a rotten tomato, a few kicks and a punch or so, a bit of heckling? - come on you have just defamed the GOD you have just blasphemed against Christianity... 2000 years of TRUTH, and the worst you get is a kicking!

Now, pop on a quick Easyjet flight to the English Garden Park in Munich,(Austria, France an many other European countries Too) stand on your soap box and say "There were no gas chambers in Dachau" - You will be jailed Ant, despite the fact that EVERYONE, including the Jewish people now accept that there were no gas chambers in Dachau, but, because of the statutes layed out in the Nurenburg trials, you cannot even deny a lie!...

That's fatuous. Walk into a crowded theatre and yell "FIRE!", and then after people have been injured (or worse) in the ensuing panic try to rely on a defence that it was your fundamental right to 'free speech' to do so. See how far that gets you.

Your little analogy is also fundamentally flawed for the very simple reason that there was a Holocaust - this is undeniable and established fact.

The next point Ant, is that these Zionist Media Moguls are busy planning laws in the USA about HATE crimes, crimes on the internet, sort of "Thought Crimes" Ant, which you and me will be both guilty when they pass the laws, then it won't take long Ant, before we can be Extradited Ant, to the good old USA, a bit like Mr Nice, you know the grass man...and we both end up in some Fedreal Jail for 25 years for our THOUGHTS!.

None of that is even remotely close to reality. So far away from it as to be delusional.

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And this is good for FREEDOM!

and you're known as no one,
am I someone to you,
someone to turn to,
even when others turn away?
Even though others turn away?

When history blurs,
and every man, women, and child,
are left outside with no phones to be dialed,
you can't call me, I can't you.
You can't call me, I can't you.

In a world without mercy,
people dine outside your door.
In a world without mercy,
you don't have to lie anymore.
You don't have to cry anymore.

When laughter loses all its humor
and the joke is on you,
don't take it so personal,
all this world reversal.
The things they said don't matter anyway.
The things they said don't matter anyway.

In a world without mercy,
people dine outside your door.
In a world without mercy,
you don't have to lie anymore.
You don't have to cry anymore.

Oh, can it be so painful?
Can it be so blind?
Love is vicious angel,
fluttering wings, trapped inside your mind.

When your words have no meaning
and you're known as no one,
am I someone to you,
someone to turn to,
even when others turn away

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by Missismiggins

...So, let us take your right to free speech, and get up on a box in Hyde Park, say Speakers Corner, and start calling JESUS A LYING DEVIL [at][at][at][at] FROM HELL!

What will happen to you ANT? maybe a rotten tomato, a few kicks and a punch or so, a bit of heckling? - come on you have just defamed the GOD you have just blasphemed against Christianity... 2000 years of TRUTH, and the worst you get is a kicking!

Now, pop on a quick Easyjet flight to the English Garden Park in Munich,(Austria, France an many other European countries Too) stand on your soap box and say "There were no gas chambers in Dachau" - You will be jailed Ant, despite the fact that EVERYONE, including the Jewish people now accept that there were no gas chambers in Dachau, but, because of the statutes layed out in the Nurenburg trials, you cannot even deny a lie!...

That's fatuous. Walk into a crowded theatre and yell "FIRE!", and then after people have been injured (or worse) in the ensuing panic try to rely on a defence that it was your fundamental right to 'free speech' to do so. See how far that gets you.

Your little analogy is also fundamentally flawed for the very simple reason that there was a Holocaust - this is undeniable and established fact.

The next point Ant, is that these Zionist Media Moguls are busy planning laws in the USA about HATE crimes, crimes on the internet, sort of "Thought Crimes" Ant, which you and me will be both guilty when they pass the laws, then it won't take long Ant, before we can be Extradited Ant, to the good old USA, a bit like Mr Nice, you know the grass man...and we both end up in some Fedreal Jail for 25 years for our THOUGHTS!.

None of that is even remotely close to reality. So far away from it as to be delusional.

I'd bet a thousand Baht you still haven't opened the file by James Baque! -being so open minded as you are!

Fine. And then let's double or quits that you've not opened anything else besides.

Why consider all the evidence when it's so much easier just to digest that which confirms what you already believe, no matter how patently distorted, eh Miggins.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Look at me, look at me, look at me, look at me, look at me

I'm not reading six pages of this shite!