Thailand Cancels Oil And Gas Pact With Cambodia

**good2bhappy** · 07-11-2009, 06:33 PM

[QUOTE="English Noodles"]My Mrs' family [/QUOTEthought you said you were gay?

**English Noodles** · 07-11-2009, 08:59 PM

Originally Posted by good2bhappy

thought you said you were gay?

Only on Thursdays when it's queers drinks buy one get one free.

**BKKBoet** · 09-11-2009, 08:21 PM

Originally Posted by noelbino

Unfortunately no Thia media has pursued this situation to expose him as a man for himself and stuff everybody else.

I think if you look back you will see a lot of coverage about it, part of the reason he was kicked out of office!

**Rural Surin** · 09-11-2009, 09:17 PM

Originally Posted by noelbino

Unfortunately no Thia media has pursued this situation to expose him....

No mainstream Thai media {usually associated with the establishment convention}

**tsicar** · 09-11-2009, 09:31 PM

Originally Posted by noelbino

Obviously the only benefactor in this situation is old square face himself.
He is a coward in not facing up to the consequences of ripping off his fellow Thais.
It does not take 1 week to transact a 76 billion Baht deal to sell his AIS to Singapore. One week after cabinet approved the lifting to 49% of foreign ownership of a telecom company the Singaporean company bought AIS.
Unfortunately no Thia media has pursued this situation to expose him as a man for himself and stuff everybody else.

thaksin sold a company he OWNED, and built up himself.
he took advantage of a loophole to AVOID paying tax (legal); took advantage of changing circumstances, and profited, just the same as any astute businessman in any part of the world would do.
all they managed to nail him on in the end was the fact that his WIFE made the highest bid on a land auction, won the bid and profited hugely by doing so.
if YOUR wife commits a "crime", would you think it just if YOU were the one to have to take the fall?
he ripped nobody off by selling off AIS: it was his own property.

**Rural Surin** · 09-11-2009, 09:40 PM

Originally Posted by noelbino

He is a coward in not facing up to the consequences of ripping off his fellow Thais.

{not defending Thaksin} Such accusations should include the history of corrupt scoundrels and scallywags that continue today to rip-off 'fellow Thais'. He has a wealth of company.

**zubber** · 09-11-2009, 09:46 PM

his buddy Mr Al Fayed the owner of Harrods pays just a few 1000 in UK taxes per year despite his massive empire spanning the UK and the globe

**Butterfly** · 09-11-2009, 09:53 PM

^^^ are you completely delusional ? or have you turned completely Thai by living too long in some Issan shithole ?

**tsicar** · 09-11-2009, 10:16 PM

Originally Posted by Butterfly

^^^ are you completely delusional ? or have you turned completely Thai by living too long in some Issan shithole ?

not living in a thai shithole at the moment.
i doubt anybody on the forum could say i have turned even a "neeedn'-beet" thai.
wtf are you talking about?
thaksin owned the fukkn business and he sold it.
a loophole in the thai tax law allowed the sale to be made tax free.
the useless thai fuckwits that never did an honest days' work did not own ais.
ais was not a "national asset", it was one of thaksin's assets.
why the fkk should they have had any claim to the profits of the sale?
thaksin's wife made a land purchase,: won the bid on a public auction.
thaksin got nailed on this dodgy little "demeanor", coz the coup leaders, who had promised to provide evidence of his corruption and justify the coup could not come up with anything better.
in the meantime, the fact that the coup leaders who had thaksin "prosecuted for his crimes", changed the constitution to cover their OWN sorry arses and escape prosecution, seems to have somehow slipped everybody's minds.
i doubt that leading a coup to oust a democratically and legitemately elected leader (one who was voted in by a HUGE majority on a couple of different occasions) can be justified and legitimised on the grounds that his wife won a bid on a PUBLIC auction.

**Butterfly** · 09-11-2009, 10:25 PM

are you a small time gangster by any chance ?

**Rural Surin** · 09-11-2009, 10:33 PM

Originally Posted by Butterfly

.....or have you turned completely Thai by living too long in some Issan shithole ?

That might be to one's advantage, Butts. Better to remove yourself from the arseholes that abound and their pathetic existence.

**panama hat** · 09-11-2009, 10:37 PM

More like a big time dreamer.

Tsicar, do you really believe what you are saying? Any of it?

**tsicar** · 09-11-2009, 11:08 PM

Originally Posted by panama hat

More like a big time dreamer.

Tsicar, do you really believe what you are saying? Any of it?

what i have posted is based on what i learned from observing this whole thing from a distance.
when i got to thailand, i did not even know who thaksin was.
if truth be told, my usual political stance would see me siding with abhisit, since i see paralells with what hapenned in my own country when "democracy" was established.
i don't really believe in democracy, especially in a country wheren the electorate consists of a majority of cretins who do not necessarily have the ability to make an educated choice, and in this respect i kinda lean toward the side of the "thai elite" whose work ethic, and the taxes they pay and the resentment they must feel about their tax money being wasted on the lazy brown people is somewhat justified in my opinion.
BUT:
if you are gonna crucify somebody, if you want to dislodge him by pulling a coup, then at least have the balls to be honest about it, instead of coming up with lame excuses and bullshit, and changing the constitution to save your own arse.
if what i posted about the sale of ais is bullshit, then at least justify your stance by posting some facts to prove i was talking shit.
the coup leaders would have LOVED to have been able to prove that the ais sale was a corrupt move on thaksin's part, BUT THEY NEVER MANAGED TO DO SO!
perhaps they should have asked YOU first, then they would have been able to produce the proof that would have had his own electorate throw him out, instead of having to pull a coup and then try to back it up with bullshit and lies and cover-ups after the fact.

**tsicar** · 09-11-2009, 11:26 PM

Originally Posted by Butterfly

are you a small time gangster by any chance ?

that depends on whether your definitions of gangster and businessman merge at some point.
tax EVASION is illegal in any country.
tax AVOIDANCE is legal, and it is the duty of any businessman to ensure that his company does not pay unnecessary tax.

i do not pay tax.
i get away with it because i am good at it, and i do not see the need to support anybody who has neither the brain nor the inclination to support himself.
i guess that perhaps that makes me a gangster by your definition.

pompeybloke · 09-11-2009, 11:33 PM

Originally Posted by tsicar

he took advantage of a loophole to AVOID paying tax (legal); took advantage of changing circumstances, and profited, just the same as any astute businessman in any part of the world would do.

Helps when you're the PM though..conflict of interest.

Originally Posted by tsicar

and in this respect i kinda lean toward the side of the "thai elite" whose work ethic, and the taxes they pay and the resentment they must feel about their tax money being wasted on the lazy brown people is somewhat justified in my opinion.

I'm married to one of those lazy brown people you mentioned, got sweat down her back today from harvesting the rice...cheers! She's fit as fuk...

**zubber** · 10-11-2009, 02:19 AM

Fayed accused of failing to pay tax for 25 years

Kim Sengupta

Wed

MOHAMED AL FAYED failed to pay any income tax for 25 years, the jury in the libel trial brought by the former Tory MP, Neil Hamilton, was told yesterday.

from the independant

**tsicar** · 10-11-2009, 03:38 AM

Originally Posted by pompeybloke

Originally Posted by tsicar

he took advantage of a loophole to AVOID paying tax (legal); took advantage of changing circumstances, and profited, just the same as any astute businessman in any part of the world would do.

Helps when you're the PM though..conflict of interest.

Originally Posted by tsicar

and in this respect i kinda lean toward the side of the "thai elite" whose work ethic, and the taxes they pay and the resentment they must feel about their tax money being wasted on the lazy brown people is somewhat justified in my opinion.

I'm married to one of those lazy brown people you mentioned, got sweat down her back today from harvesting the rice...cheers! She's fit as fuk...

sorry, i know that isaan women work hard: i was talking about the ones that lie around drunk in their hammocks all day, waiting for the women to bring home the bacon.
i am sure we have all seen it.

**cambtek** · 10-11-2009, 06:33 AM

Most cambodians do not despise the government at all-they just accept it as cambodians always do.
They do despise the vietnamese and the thais however.
Cambodians would like nothing better than to give the thai a bloody nose,probably with the viets help ironically.

**Butterfly** · 10-11-2009, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by Rural Surin

That might be to one's advantage, Butts. Better to remove yourself from the arseholes that abound and their pathetic existence.

English please ?

**Butterfly** · 10-11-2009, 08:33 AM

Originally Posted by tsicar

what i have posted is based on what i learned from observing this whole thing from a distance.

And that's your problem, you have no fucking clue and are speaking non-sense

as spending tax money on the "brown" people, I don't see this as a problem if it's done to serve them and not a particular leader

**Nawty** · 10-11-2009, 08:46 AM

Originally Posted by tsicar

thaksin sold a company he OWNED, and built up himself. he took advantage of a loophole to AVOID paying tax (legal); took advantage of changing circumstances, and profited, just the same as any astute businessman in any part of the world would do. all they managed to nail him on in the end was the fact that his WIFE made the highest bid on a land auction, won the bid and profited hugely by doing so. if YOUR wife commits a "crime", would you think it just if YOU were the one to have to take the fall? he ripped nobody off by selling off AIS: it was his own property.

I don't mind most of the stuff you write Tis, but this is crap.

It does not take an astute business man to accept and pay bribes...the only way a copper in this country could get to be the wealthiest guy around.

But mainly, his stupidity and lack of common sense and decencey shone through by lacking to do and see one very simple thing.

He got what...around 74 billion baht for his company. Imagine now if he had turned around and as the current ruling PM....he made a song and dnace about paying 2 billion baht in taxes and then pushed it one step further and said ...'I will also match that 2 billion amount with a further 2 billion baht donation to support some worthy causes...education of the poor or whatever....and made it very public.

Imagine that....4 billion out of his 74 billion gone and left with only 70 billion.

But guess what, he would still be PM and he would be loved even more by the public than he was then.....a hero.

But no, the greedy fools true idiocy shone through and look at him now.

Fucking idiot he is, was and always will be.

**Butterfly** · 10-11-2009, 08:55 AM

let's not forget about the dodgy offshore company he used to transfer millions of shares,

and let's not forget the judicial coup of 2001, when he was nailed hiding millions through his chauffeur and maid, and they let him got away with it. He was very thankful to those judges eventually. Can't have it both ways.

pompeybloke · 10-11-2009, 09:01 AM

Originally Posted by Nawty

It does not take an astute business man to accept and pay bribes...the only way a copper in this country could get to be the wealthiest guy around. But mainly, his stupidity and lack of common sense and decencey shone through by lacking to do and see one very simple thing. He got what...around 74 billion baht for his company. Imagine now if he had turned around and as the current ruling PM....he made a song and dnace about paying 2 billion baht in taxes and then pushed it one step further and said ...'I will also match that 2 billion amount with a further 2 billion baht donation to support some worthy causes...education of the poor or whatever....and made it very public. Imagine that....4 billion out of his 74 billion gone and left with only 70 billion. But guess what, he would still be PM and he would be loved even more by the public than he was then.....a hero. But no, the greedy fools true idiocy shone through and look at him now. Fucking idiot he is, was and always will be. __________________

Spot on that! Too greedy for his own good.

**Mr R Sole** · 10-11-2009, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by the dogcatcher

So is the M16 better than the AK.

The AK 7.62 would blow the crap out of the M16...IMHO...AK just a classy killing machine..Asia's favourite, when it comes to the crunch.. The U.S just dumped the M16 on the Thais along with other things...

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

Down the toilet, with all the other shit, I hope

Here, here..

Originally Posted by BillyBobThai

We all know how the Asians love their face.

More than life itself....philistines

Originally Posted by teddy

Hun Sen is provoking a conflict - why?

Cause he misses the good old days of the Khymer rouge???!!!!! or are there other reasons...

Originally Posted by Mr Lick

Maybe Hun Sen will relinguish his interest in Thaksin in exchange for a lesser interest by the Thai's in a certain temple.

Hhhmmmmm, Good point Mr Lick....is Hun Sen really that crafty or clever??

**Rural Surin** · 10-11-2009, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by Mr R Sole

Hhhmmmmm, Good point Mr Lick....is Hun Sen really that crafty or clever??

History is on his side. Crafty and clever? Yes. Brutal and demonic? Yes.

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